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Title:GUITARnotes - Where Every Note has Emotion
Notice:Discussion of the finer stringed instruments
Moderator:KDX200::COOPER
Created:Thu Aug 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3280
Total number of notes:61432

42.0. "Dobro" by FROST::SIMON (Gary Simon - BTO Quality Engineering) Wed Sep 03 1986 16:17

	How about one on Resophonic Guitar (Dobro)?  Anybody else ever
play around with it?  What types of music?  Comments, etc.??

	I found an old Regal "Dobro" at a lawn sale a few years ago for
$20.  The best deal I ever ran across!  After cleaning it up and putting
on new strings, it sounds fantastic.  I started out just using it as a
plectrum style guitar, but since I also play a lot of slide guitar I
quickly got into open tunings.  I started out with E for awhile until
I started to get into Bluegrass Dobro (ala Jerry Douglas and Mike Auldridge)
and realized that open G was standard here.

	What I have been finding to be a problem is finding instruction
books, accessories, etc for the dobro.  Anybody know of any sources?

	-gary

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42.1Dobro: Johnny-come-latelyDAIRY::SHARPSay something once, why say it again?Thu Sep 04 1986 15:5616
I have a National resophonic guitar, vintage 1935. I got it at Daddy's in
Nashua for $500, and the next day a guy offered my $750 cash for it, or a
trade of any guitar in his arsenal. (I turned him down.) This is a
nickel-plated model with a round (not square) neck, two f-holes, and a sigle
resonator cone.

I play slide almost exclusively on my National, and usually leave it in open
tuning. Funny thing about open tuning (technical term: scordatura) being
able to read music is almost worthless if you aren't in standard tuning.
I've seen some instruction books in tablature notation, but nothing I've
ever really found useful. In this arena I play almost exclusively by ear. 

The Music Emporium in Cambridge is probably the best source in the Boston
area for Dobro instructional material, accessories or repair/adjustment.

Don.
42.2RANGLY::BOTTOM_DAVIDFri Sep 05 1986 10:5711
I met one of the Dopera brothers (do-bro get it?) that invented the
    Dobro....he lived in Escondito Calif and had a small shop there.
    A truely interesting man, had a patent on a new truss rod
    system he invented, that no one would buy from him (at that time)...it
    involved a metal bar in the neck with a screw adjustment hidden under
    one of the fret marker dots.... over all it put less stress on the
    bar and the neck wood and still allowed for full adjustment...he
    told a few stories form his days at National...sadly a few years
    back I heard he had died, he was a very nice old man.
    
    dave
42.3DONNER::LEVETTit's a wonder I can think at allSat Sep 06 1986 23:2012
    I used to play (at) dobro about 10 years ago. I had a National 
    dobro (repro) that played pretty well. I liked using open G tunings
    because having played banjo I found I could assimilate banjo licks
    with practice.
    I tried using a bullet type slide but it kept rolling out of my
    hand so I ended up with a metal slide that had an indentation on
    top for the index finger to rest on and a "waist" you could grip.
    I liked that bar! I got into some slant slide playing and string
    bending and then sold the dobro for an old Fender 6 string stand-up
    lap steel...wish I'da kept the dobro.
    
    _stew-
42.4Dobro LessonsSCRIBE::PEANUTSThu Oct 23 1986 02:396
    More instructional material can be found at Fiddler's Choice
    in Jaffrey, New Hampshire. See Dave DelRossi. He has lots
    of stuff. Especially if you're into bluegrass.

    They even have instructional video tapes (or had anyway).
    
42.5Help with Dobro info?? Oh, no!FXENG1::TTESTAThe future's so bright, I gotta wear shades!Thu Oct 23 1986 11:4210
	I acquired an old dobro yesterday, and it needs lots of work.
Does anybody have any sources of information on dobro and resphonic guitars
that might be of use to someone who is trying to get replacement parts for
the resonator (which is missing) and other parts specific to resophonic guitar?
I'm particularly interested in restoring this as accurately as possible.
	I saw a picture of what I think this guitar looks like that was called
a Duo-something-or-other. I would descibe it as mostly wooden, arch top with
"S" holes, and a large (but not too ornate) resonator. Any help at all is
appreciated.
				Tom (fix-em-up collecters item) Testagrossa
42.6Try Mr. C'sFROST::SIMONdon't you ever wash that thang?Thu Oct 23 1986 12:3924
	re -.1

	A good place to start may be Mr. C's music in Marlboro, Mass.
	if that is the area where you're located.  Mr. C was a distributor
	for Dobro/National in the 60s(?).  He also has a book that covers
	historical info on dobros (as well as other guitars).  I'm not 
	sure if he can helf you with parts, but he may be able to point
	you in the right direction.  

	If you do find a good source, post it here so others can benefit.
	I'm currently trying to find an "extention nut" that I can use 
	on my other guitars to play dobro style without replacing the
	nut totally.  My Regal Dobro I keep tuned to open G (GBDGBD), but
	I'd like to mess around with some other tunings without having to
	keep changing the tuning on the one guitar.  What I'd love to find 
	is an old Hawaiian Koa wood lap guitar.  I saw David Lindley at
	a blues festival play a couple of them.  They were the predecessor
	to the dobro.

	Good luck

	-gary

42.7publication pointerDAIRY::SHARPSay something once, why say it again?Fri Oct 24 1986 15:249
A friend of mine subscribes to American Luthier's Quarterly, and they
recently published a very good article on repair and adjustment of Dobros.
It tells all about fitting the spider, cone, bridge and tailpiece and how to
adjust the action for good sound and playability. I'll see if I can get him
to bring it in so I can quote the exact issue number and date, and give out
their address so you can ask for a backissue. If you're into this kind of
stuff you should probably be a subscriber anyway.

Don.
42.8Dobro instruction18461::KELLYJFri Nov 14 1986 10:156
    Check out Oak Publications.  Mike Auldridge authored the book; it's
    about standard for that type of instruction.  
    
    
    
    
42.9GIAMEM::RATTEYThu Mar 19 1992 12:369
    
    
    	For years I've been dreaming about getting a Dobro...and just
    	recently started looking again...I would want a curved fingerboard
    	style....Dobro now has a bottom of the line model they call the 
    	Houndog model...anyone have any opinion about this one...they sell
    	for under $500 new.....how do the Regals compare to Dobro's ???
    
    	Ray.
42.10FROST::SIMONBirds can't row boatsThu Mar 26 1992 10:3024
	I haven't seen the new Houndog (HD101x) model yet, but I hear
	they are quite nice.  Suppossedly they sound better then other
	low cost brand available.  I know that they have a square neck
	at the Music Emporium in Cambridge.  Not sure if they have a 
	round neck or not.  I've been looking to buy a new square neck
	dobro but I'm a little leary of buying an entry level guitar.
	I still have a 1930-something Regal although it's currently in
	the shop having it's neck reattached.  I decided since I'm
	going to buy another one that I would get a more "standard"
	model, so I think I'll be buying a model P60D-S (squareneck,
	with solid head).  Elderley quoted about $725 with case.

	The new Regals are pretty good, but they are also expensive.
	The only ones I've seen so far have been in the $800-$1000 
	range.  They are also made in Korea 8-( ...

	If you're looking for a first one you may want to check out the
	houndog.  Then see what price you can get on it from Elderly.
	In their 1990 catalog they had it for about $285 without a case.
	(Probably around $325 now)

	_gary


42.11GIAMEM::RATTEYThu Mar 26 1992 11:1112
    
    
    	Do you have a number/address for Elderly...might want to check them
    	out....
    
    	....$280 for a Houndog sounds pretty good....the one I've seen was
    	at McDuff's in Shrewsbury....he had a price of $450 on it.. without 
    	case....he did say it was negotible.....not sure if he'd come down
    	that far....worth a try...
    
    
    	Ray.
42.12FROST::SIMONBirds can't row boatsThu Mar 26 1992 13:3416
	Call Elderly at (517)372-7890...  Ask them for their latest Acoustic
 	instrument catalog as well as a price on the Houndog.

	Mailing address is 

	Elderly Instruments
	1100 N. Washington
	P.O. Box 14210
	Lansing, MI 48901


	The $280 was two years ago...but they'll still probably be the
	best price you can find (if you don't mind mail order that is).
    
	_gary
42.13Jerry Douglas anyone?SAHQ::ROSENKRANZLess is MoreMon Jun 01 1992 09:015
Anyone know anything about a dobro player named Jerry Douglas? I've seen
him twice now on Austin City Limits. Once backing an irish singer whose name
I've now forgotten. And with the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band. This guy was 
great!  I'd like to know if there are any recordings with some of his work.
I'd love to get my hands on some.
42.14See folk notes fileSAHQ::ROSENKRANZLess is MoreMon Jun 01 1992 09:203
    Well, I sorta answered my own question. There is some good coverage
    of Jerry Douglas in the folk music notes file (see note 758 for those
    that are interested).
42.15Jerry Douglas aka "Flux"RICKS::ROSTFrankensteinbergerMon Jun 01 1992 09:206
    Under his own name he has one called "Fluxology" on the Rounder label
    and a couple on the MCA Masters label (forget titles).  As a sideman
    he's all over the place in the bluegrass and country fields, too many
    recordings to possibly list in their entirety!
    
    						Brian
42.16Some Douglas RamblingsFROST::SIMONBirds can't row boatsMon Jun 01 1992 10:4334
	His newest release is called "Slide Rule" (on Sugar Hill records).
	This is my favorite to date, and I own all 6 solo ones that he
	has put out.

	The Irish singer is probably Maura O'Connell who sings one song
	on Slide Rule.  By the way, this is his first record with vocals
	(other than him singing on one song on Fluxology).  

	Jerry has also recorded on literaly thousands of sessions with
	other people.  Some of my favorites are Tim Obrien's "Odd Man
	In" and Roy Bookbinder's "Bookeroo".  Also the Circle Be Unbroken
	verson two is worth checking out.

	I've seen Jerry quite a few times now. He had been playing at the
	Winterhawk Bluegrass Festival, but won't be there this year..
	unfortunately.  The last time I saw him was in Barre, Vt at the
	Opera House where he played with Russ Barenburg (guitar) and 
	Edgar Meyer (bass/bass fiddle).  What a great show in an intimate
	setting.

	If you like Jerry's playing you should also check out Sally Van
	Meter who is sort of a disciple of Jerry's.  She plays with the
	Good Old Persons and also played on the "Blue Rose" album (with
	Laurie Lewis, Kathy Fink, and Marcie Marxer), and she also has
	a current solo album out (produced by Jerry Douglas) called "All
	in Good Time" also on Sugar Hill.  The Good Old Persons will be
	at Winterhawk this year.

	_gary_who_will_be_in_the_dobro_workshop_at_Augusta_Heritage_this
		_year_with_Jerry_Douglas_teaching......yahoo!!


	
42.17The Great Dobro SessionsBSS::LEVETTFri May 05 1995 16:2913
    Though it's been several years that this note was active, the Jerry
    Douglas/Tut Taylor produced recording "The Great Dobro Sessions" won
    the Grammy this year for best Bluegrass album.
    
    The cd has 10 of the countries best dobro players including Mike
    Auldridge, Gene Wooten, Sally Van Meter, Rob Ickes, Josh Graves,
    Bashful Brother Oswald (Kirby), Stacy Phillips, Tut and Jerry.
    Hmmm, that's nine...who am I forgetting?
    
    Anyway for some great dobro playing of various styles and sounds,
    check it out.
    
    _stew-
42.18The Bro Bros.MILKWY::JACQUESVintage taste, reissue budgetSat May 06 1995 19:414
    I'll definately check it out. Do all of these players use 
    Squareneck Dobro's or do some play roundnecks?
    
    Mark
42.19Round Neck vs Square NeckBSS::LEVETTMon May 08 1995 16:4010
    My guess is that they all play square neck.  I'll look at the liner
    notes and see.  I do know that Tut Taylor and Josh Graves (I believe)
    used older Dobros for many years and the style preferred by the 
    bluegrassers only came with round necks with few exceptions until the 
    early 1960's if memory serves me correctly.  If your question concerns 
    whether anyone plays delta blues style on the cd, upright rather than 
    lap style, I don't think so.
    
    _stew-
    
42.20Birdland?ROADKL::HALLEuripides pants, Eumenides pantsFri May 19 1995 08:466
    So, Stew...  I just got around to listening to side 1 (it was cued
    somewhere in the middle).  I've decided that my choice for Song I'm
    Mostly Likely To Hate (Birdland) turned out to be just about my
    favorite cut.  Did you say that this was Jerry Douglas?
    
    Charlie
42.21BSS::LEVETTFri May 19 1995 12:541
    Yes, "Birdland" is Jerry.