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Conference eps::oracle

Title:Oracle
Notice:For product status see topics: UNIX 1008, OpenVMS 1009, NT 1010
Moderator:EPS::VANDENHEUVEL
Created:Fri Aug 10 1990
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1574
Total number of notes:4428

1522.0. "Oracle Replication & DECsafe ASE" by NETRIX::"[email protected]" (Joel Josol) Tue Feb 25 1997 19:11

Hi,

I've got a customer who wanted to implement Replication on an ASE
environment. My initial position is these are mutually exclusive solution
sets. Either you do replication or you do ASE.

Background

My customer has an ASE with one of the servers replicating data to
a remote site. He also wanted to do the same replication to the other
idle 8400 on the ASE domain, that is, treat the idle 8400 as though
it is also remote.

Problems

Two sets of storage. One for ech 8400. Oracle created a script
mounting each storage on each 8400 using a common mount
point. (Hold it til I finish). Replication happens from the active
server to the idle. Data is replicated from active server's storage
to the idle server's storage. All is fine until you simulate a failover
scenario. Oracle insists that its the way they have to go. Of course,
we insist that it's not the way to go ASEs.

Is there a better, more experienced way of going about this
customer goal (having multiple copies of data on multiple storage)?
This is a serious issue for this telco who got half a dozen 8400 on
multiple sites.

/joeljosol

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1522.1I guess they need to decideALFAM7::GOSEJACOBMon Mar 03 1997 07:5514
    re .0     
    Just my personal view of the world: I guess its one way or the other.
    
    If they want to use Oracle replication to keep 2 copies of the same
    data on 2 seperate machines fine. But in this case installing ASE on
    these 2 machines will not add any extra value; e.g. there is not much
    point in storing the data on shared disks.
    
    If they want to use ASE they should configure LSM mirroring to keep
    redundant copies of the data. Now in this scenario the failover will be
    supervised by ASE not Oracle; probably the reason why the Oracle guys
    don't like the idea.
    
    	Martin
1522.2Different behavior of same ASE version...MANM01::JOELJOSOLWed Mar 05 1997 19:3416
    Turns out that what the customer calls "replication" is simply
    moving the archive log over to the idle 8400. The problem is
    that the failover tries to mount on the idle 8400's mount point
    which is currently used by the idle 8400 causing the failover
    to fail. 
    
    I have simulated this back in the office with DUNIX V3.2G and
    ASEV1.3 using 1000A and 4100. When failing over to the 1000A,
    ASE tries to mount on the 4100's mount point and fails resulting
    with the ASE service unassigned. But, failing from 1000A to
    4100 succeeds because after failing, ASE dismounts the mount
    point and retries where it succeeds the second time.
    
    Now, that I don't understand.
    
    /joeljosol