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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

5366.0. "Help for paths on AB20 please" by MEO78B::MANDERSON (Amiga + '030 == MicroCRAY) Thu Jan 23 1992 08:25

    I have been tracking down a utility in an archive called FMDTP2 for a
    while. (does some postscript file manipulations and makes .ps from .afm
    files) 
    
    I have tracked it down to being on AB20. I have done an LS of ab20 and
    the tree I know it is under has me puzzeled. under th usenet: directory
    is something called 
    	comp.binaries.amiga -> ../../usenet/comp.binaries.amiga
    and
    	comp.sources.amiga -> ../../usenet/comp.sources.amiga
    
    The archive I am after is in there somewhere but I don't understand the
    unix file naming  ( does anyone :-} ) to know what is meant by this 
    
    can anyone please give a path that I can use here
    
    regards
    kevin
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name		DateLines
5366.1linksSTAR::GUINEAUnothing personal...Thu Jan 23 1992 08:3812
>    	comp.binaries.amiga -> ../../usenet/comp.binaries.amiga
>    and
>    	comp.sources.amiga -> ../../usenet/comp.sources.amiga

The -> means that comp.sources.amiga is linked to a directory 2 levels
above the current dir (the ../../ part) names usenet/comp.sources.amiga


Just use the comp.sources.amiga/file-name path and the Unix magic will
happen on the other side...

john
5366.2ThanksMEO78B::MANDERSONAmiga + '030 == MicroCRAYThu Jan 23 1992 15:187
    Thanks John
    
    Have just sent off a dir to foind out the actual name of the 3 files
    that comprise the archive.
    
    regards
    kevin
5366.3???? MEO78B::MANDERSONAmiga + '030 == MicroCRAYThu Jan 23 1992 20:4823
    John	 
    this is what I sent and got back nothing - 0 bytes.  what did I dio
    wrong??
    
    regards
    kevin
    
From:	MEO78B::MANDERSON "Photographers do it in darkrooms...  24-Jan-1992 0723" 24-JAN-1992 07:25:10.06
To:	NM%DECWRL::FTPMAIL
CC:	MANDERSON
Subj:	

reply [email protected]
connect ab20.larc.nasa.gov
binary 
uuencode
ls -R comp.binaries.amiga
ls -R ../../comp.binaries.amiga
ls -R comp.sources.amiga
ls -R ../../comp.sources.amiga

quit
5366.4Use FILES.Z, that's why it's there!HYDRA::MOORESimply reinstall....EVERYTHING!Thu Jan 23 1992 20:5111
    I assume the files you want are:
    usenet/comp.binaries.amiga/volume91/utilities/fmdtp2/part01.Z
    usenet/comp.binaries.amiga/volume91/utilities/fmdtp2/part02.Z
    usenet/comp.binaries.amiga/volume91/utilities/fmdtp2/part03.Z
    
    
    Rather than wasting time and network bandwidth doing directory
    searches on AB20, look for file names in their FILES.Z listing
    as described in the login message every time you FTP from AB20.
    For your convenience, a periodically updated version can usually
    be found at EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]AB20_FILES.LIS.
5366.5HYDRA::MOORESimply reinstall....EVERYTHING!Thu Jan 23 1992 20:572
    Also, in this case (comp.binaries.amiga), you can probably find copies
    of these files in the AMIGA_BINARIES notesfile on FRSOLD::.
5366.6STAR::DCARRGuru: a 4-letter word to Amiga ownersThu Jan 23 1992 21:2623
      Re: .3

>    this is what I sent and got back nothing - 0 bytes.  what did I dio
>    wrong??
    
>reply [email protected]
>connect ab20.larc.nasa.gov
>binary 
>uuencode
>ls -R comp.binaries.amiga
>ls -R ../../comp.binaries.amiga
>ls -R comp.sources.amiga
>ls -R ../../comp.sources.amiga

>quit

    To answer your question of what you did wrong, the 'binary' and 
    'uuencode' should be replaced by an 'ascii' line, since you're asking 
    for directory listings.

    -Dom
5366.7thanks.MEO78B::MANDERSONAmiga + '030 == MicroCRAYThu Jan 23 1992 22:5117
    Hey guys give me a break - I am just learning about how to ftp and move
    around the u*ix file structure to get things. 
    
    re -.2 Thanks for the pointers to the files - much appreciated. 
    
    re -.1 binary/uuencode - I had already used that combination on some
    other directories and it worked fine - so why mess with it if it works
    :-}
    
    I looked at  Files.z but figured it was a compressed TAR file - or some
    such - and hadn't got as far as working out how to get into them so
    left it be for a while. 
    
    I hadn't thought of amiga_binaries....
    
    regards
    kevin
5366.8FTPMAIL != real ftp...STAR::GUINEAUnothing personal...Fri Jan 24 1992 07:4325
>ls -R comp.binaries.amiga
>ls -R ../../comp.binaries.amiga
>ls -R comp.sources.amiga
>ls -R ../../comp.sources.amiga

Also, not all FTP mail servers support the Unix command equivilents. Some
will only let you dir a "DIR" or a "LS".

When you send a request, you get back 3 things:

	1. A message stating it [your request] was received

		Read this. It sometimes contains interesting information
		like the host you connected to was unknown or unreachable etc.

	2. A "results of your request" message.

		Read this carefully. It will tell you what went wrong
		in actually executing the request, if anything.

	3. The stuff you requested

		Assuming nothing negative was said in 1 or 2

john