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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

5318.0. "HDToolBox and other controllers?" by FSCORE::KAYE (where's my Kama Sutra pop-up book for zero-g) Thu Jan 02 1992 11:34

HDToolBox says 'compatible with the A3000, the A2091, and other disks
that follow the Amiga Rigid Disk Block standard".

I have an IVS Grand Slam that i assume follows the Amiga RDB standard,
(i also assume the A2090A doesn't). But, if i activate HDToolBox i get
'handler not found' and all the icons except EXIT are unavailable.
Has anyone got this utility to work on something other than a 2091??
(or am i hoping too much)

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5318.1ULTRA::KINDELBill Kindel @ LTN1Thu Jan 02 1992 13:2817
    Re .0:
    
>   HDToolBox says 'compatible with the A3000, the A2091, and other disks
>   that follow the Amiga Rigid Disk Block standard".
>
>   I have an IVS Grand Slam that i assume follows the Amiga RDB standard,
>   (i also assume the A2090A doesn't). But, if i activate HDToolBox i get
>   'handler not found' and all the icons except EXIT are unavailable.
>   Has anyone got this utility to work on something other than a 2091??
>   (or am i hoping too much)
    
    HDToolBox came (and works) with my A590 controller, which is really an
    A2091 in disguise.  I think the problem is that the Commodore SCSI
    controllers use the scsi.device and others don't.  The A2090[A] may or
    may not work with it, but third-party controllers often include their
    own device driver as part of the package.  I suspect HDToolBox issues
    SCSI-direct commands, which it expects to use scsi.device to do.
5318.2Where there's a will, there's a way2183::ESTABROOKJay Estabrook - DTN 264-5876Thu Jan 02 1992 14:579
re: .0

I remember reading someplace, that HDToolBox has a place where you can tell it
the device (ie driver) to use; if you can find where that is (:-), change it
to the device supplied with your hard disk and try again. That is, replace
the reference to "scsi.device", the 590/2091 driver, with "<your-driver>.device"
and it should work.

This is hearsay, so your mileage may vary. Good luck.
5318.3Add some tool type lines to the iconTLE::RMEYERSRandy MeyersThu Jan 02 1992 18:1143
The following allowed me to trick HDToolBox into thinking I only had
a SCSI device attached at SCSI_MAX_ADDRESS=0.  This keeps the system
from trying to boot off my new CD/ROM drive.
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Note 2557.0             HDToolbox and non-C= controllers               5 replies
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From: [email protected] (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: HDToolbox and non-C= controllers
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Date: 13 Nov 91 17:17:07 GMT
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I've found a way to add a tooltype to the HDToolBox icon that's  
on the 2.0.4 upgrade for my A2000, so that it now uses the  
GVPscsi.device to recognize my Series-II hardcard. It isn't in  
the manual, but here are the tooltypes:  
SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=[Your Driver]  
SCSI_MAX_ADDRESS= (normally not needed)  
SCSI_MAX_LUN= (also normally not needed)  
The reason I want to be able to use the HDToolbox is that it   
gives me more control over some options th
an GVP's FastPrep   
does. However I haven't gotten the Verify Drive option to work,  
nor can the program read the HD's (A Quantum LPS105S) setup.  
It returns a 'device does not support Inquiry command' error.  
Anybody know a cure for this? E-Mail please, newsservice is 
intermittent at the moment. 
 
:^) Paul (^: 
 
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5318.4No Go on the icddisk.deviceCX3PT3::WSC017::A_ANDERSONCSC32::A_Anderson NSU/VAX DTN 592-4170Fri Jan 03 1992 18:3314
    No go for the ICD Advantage 2000 Rom version 2.20.  
    
    I also noticed that it is case sensitive.  I first tried 
    SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=ICDDISK.DEVICE and it could not find the device.  I then 
    tried SCSI_DEVICE_NAME=icddisk.device and it locked up my amiga with the 
    drive light on and the window saying "checking icddisk.device address 0 
    unit 0"
    
    So I guess it found the device ok.  It just did not like what it found.
    
    
    Alan
    
    
5318.5A different HDTOOLBOX questionRGB::ROSEFri Jan 03 1992 23:0419
    	I have a different HDTOOLBOX question: I have a A590 and a SCSI to
    ST506 adapter with a 40 meg drive. After I set up the drive parameters,
    do a low level format, and save parameters to disk, I try a verify
    data. Then it comes back with an error message that it can't find the
    drive size. Also, under setting the drive type, if I tell it to read
    the parameters from the drive, it comes back with a message that the
    drive does not support inquery.
    
    	The drive parameters say that I have a 40 Meg drive. However, it
    appears that only the first 10 Meg got low level formatted. I can
    create a 10 meg partition and a 30 meg partition. The 10 meg partition
    high level formats and works. The 30 meg partition exits from high
    level format with an error after the first few sectors.
    
    	Any ideas how I can get HDTOOLBOX to realize that I have a 40 Meg
    drive or otherwise bludgen the low level formatter into formatting
    the full 40 Megs?
                     
    
5318.6IVS GrandSlam crashesFSCORE::KAYEwhere&#039;s my Kama Sutra pop-up book for zero-gSat Jan 04 1992 13:417
I also have the same problem with an IVS GrandSlam.
I get "checking IVS_SCSIpro.device address 0 unit 0"
then  "checking IVS_SCSIpro.device address 0 unit 1" and then
it crashes...
    
    mark    

5318.7Doesn't work with NexusARRODS::GOLDSTEINSteve G. DTN: 847-5401Mon Jan 06 1992 03:5813
    
    	I've also tried it out on the Nexus controller.....
    
    
    	Got "checking Nexus.device address 0 unit 0"
	    "checking Nexus.device address 0 unit 1"
    
    	It doesn't crach but locks up....Reboot is necessary.
    
    	I've even tried setting MAX_ADDRESS=0 and MAX_LUN=0 still nogo.