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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
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Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

5279.0. "Word Processing questions?" by ANGLIN::GAINES () Mon Dec 16 1991 17:09

	I have an older version of Prowrite 2.04... I'm wanting to
	upgrade to something better. I have read articles on Prowrite
	3.2 and I'm considering an upgrade versus Excellence or possibly
	Propage 2.1. 


	Would it be better to go with DTP and utilize their word processor
	etc, or should I seperate the two, that is DTP from a good word
	processor?

	How does the latest version of Excellence compare to Prowrite
	in the following catagories?

	. On screen display WYSIWYG

	. Output to dot matrix/laser in postscript.

	. AREXX support

	. Spell, thesarusus, definitions etc

	. speed/ others

	Does Professional Page simply blow the others away in its word
	processing abilities in the catagories indicated above?

	If professional page is simply the best because of word processing
	and DTP abilities, How steep is its learning curve? Can my 10
	and 12 year old learn them quickly?

	Michael Gaines

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5279.1K.I.S.S.ULTRA::KINDELBill Kindel @ LTN1Tue Dec 17 1991 09:5490
    Re .0:

>   I have an older version of Prowrite 2.04... I'm wanting to
>   upgrade to something better.  I have read articles on Prowrite
>   3.2 and I'm considering an upgrade versus Excellence or possibly
>   Propage 2.1.                                

    I started with ProWrite 2.5 and have upgraded to 3.0 and most recently
    to 3.2.  I'm also a PageStream 2.1 user.  I find that I use ProWrite
    for the bulk of my written work and reserve PageStream for those items
    where special requirements dictate much finer control over the final
    output.  I'm quite happy with each product, in its own space.

>   Would it be better to go with DTP and utilize their word processor
>   etc, or should I seperate the two, that is DTP from a good word
>   processor?
    
    WP and DTP *are* separable.  For most purposes (such as correspondence
    and schoolwork), a good Word Processor is the right tool.  The added
    capabilities of a good DTP package are wasted in such cases, and merely
    inflict the user with an extra learning curve.

>   How does the latest version of Excellence compare to Prowrite
>   in the following catagories?
>
>   . On screen display WYSIWYG
    
    Both products provide true WYSIWYG.

>   . Output to dot matrix/laser in postscript.
    
    ProWrite 3.2 has added a "high quality" mode that can use the outline
    fonts capability of AmigaDOS 2.04 and can scale down larger (e.g. 24pt)
    versions of bit-mapped fonts to produce "jaggie-free" output that is
    FAR superior to what you're used to in earlier versions.  Excellence!
    doesn't do this (for now, anyway).  Both produce PostScript output (you
    no longer need to buy ProScript separately).  Both support the built-in
    NLQ fonts in many printers.

>   . AREXX support
    
    ProWrite uses ARexx for macros.  It also provides an ARexx port for
    external control.

>   . Spell, thesarusus, definitions etc
    
    Both will check your spelling as you type, one selected words, or all
    at once.  Each includes a thesaurus.  Excellence! has a grammar/style
    checker.  (Proper Grammar, from Soft-wood, will check either type of
    document.)

>   . speed/ others
    
    Earlier versions of Excellence! were SLOW.  Typing speed is no longer
    an issue in either product.

>   Does Professional Page simply blow the others away in its word
>   processing abilities in the catagories indicated above?
    
    What do you need to do that ProWrite or Excellence! can't?  The
    advantages of a DTP package include such things as integrated drawing
    tools, shading, fine control over font pitch/density, "flowing" of
    multiple text streams, and all the other features you'd need to crank
    out a publication or other format-sensitive document.

>   If professional page is simply the best because of word processing
>   and DTP abilities, How steep is its learning curve? Can my 10
>   and 12 year old learn them quickly?
    
    Your 10 & 12 year-olds would do better to stick with ProWrite or
    Excellence!  (So might you. 8^)  Expect that a DTP package will be MUCH
    more resource-bound than a WP package, and editing will be MUCH slower. 
    (I type articles in ProWrite and import them into PageStream documents
    for final adjustments and proper "flowing" among multiple text blocks.)
    
    Similarly, initial setup of the document is MUCH more complex.  With
    ProWrite you're used to being able to specify all your defaults (font,
    margins, indentation, etc.) so you can simply start typing once the
    program's loaded.  With a DTP package, you need to have established a
    format complete with text blocks, et al, and then select an edit mode
    to enter text.
    
    If you need an example of a product that's overqualified for its most
    common usage, talk to any DECwrite user.  There you have a product
    that's MORE than a WP package, but doesn't quite make it the rest of
    the way to being a DTP package.  It inflicts the complexity of "text
    blocks" and other DTP concepts upon the user without providing the rest
    of the benefits thereof.  For most users, a simple word processor (sans
    "blocks", s.v.p.) would suffice very nicely.
                                                                           
5279.2Tech Support for Prowrite is on the InternetNITMOI::WITHERSAnother Hallmark Moment. -Al BundyTue Dec 17 1991 12:4215
    Another note for Prowrite is the net.presence of technical 
    support.  Mark Thomas (?), the technical support person for
    New Horizon and Central Coast Software products, is very
    active on Usenet's comp.sys.amiga.applications and responds
    to questions and problems with Prowrite.
    
    An example of this support is the regular posting of fixes
    to the net by Mark.  This is somewhat intangible but I tend
    to feel much better about a product knowing that support is
    available by mail AND that problems reported will be fixed
    with patches available (as opposed to going into a fix-bin
    until the next release or update).
    
    George
    
5279.3Want a copy of PW3.1?DENVER::ROYDances With ClamsThu Dec 19 1991 00:1913
    
    	If the license is transferable...
    
    	I have a copy of ProWrite 3.1 that you can have for the
    	low price of $25 + shipping from Boulder, CO.
    		
    	New Horizons will upgrade this to 3.2 for another $25.
    
    	If your interested.
    
    	-- Steve Roy, DENVER::ROY, 303-444-7044, no DTN
    		
    
5279.4How do you mail mark ? CRISPY::NONDEPIl est des fois que je souhaite....Wed Jan 08 1992 08:3412
    re .2
    
    George this is good news this support. How do I mail Mark from an
    ALL-IN-1 account in the U.K.
    
    I'm still looking for a way to print address labels from Prowrite 3.1
    
    The next thing I'll do this week is to find out if I can buy the
    upgrade in the U.K. direct from New Horizons less time without the
    original disks home...
    
    Cheers, Patrick
5279.5all-in-1 answerARRODS::GOLDSTEINSteve G. DTN: 847-5401Thu Jan 09 1992 03:519
    
    
    	With All-In-1 just create a message and at the message header
    
    	TO: _DENVER::ROY
    
    
    	That should work for you
    	Steve G
5279.6UK Upgrade source?BELFST::MCCLINTOCKPeterThu Jan 09 1992 09:2110
    I too want to upgrade from Prowrite 3.1 to 3.,2 but I don't know where
    to contact.  I have tried the UK distributor for Prowrite but they
    don't deal with upgrades and couldn't say how to go about it.
    
    If anyone knows how to get the upgrade in the UK please let me know.
    
    A US phone no for New Horizons would also be useful.
    
    Regards
    Peter
5279.7re .-1CADSYS::GATULISFrank Gatulis 226-6140Thu Jan 09 1992 11:116
    
    You can find the  New Horizons phone number in the vendor address list
    
    EOT::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]VENDORS.TXT
     
    
5279.8ULTRA::KINDELBill Kindel @ LTN1Thu Jan 09 1992 13:3611
    Re .6:
    
>   A US phone no for New Horizons would also be useful.
    
    From the Winter '92 issue of AC's Guide/Amiga:
    
    	New Horizons Software, Inc.
    	206 Wild Basin Road, Suite 109
    	Austin, Texas  78746
    	Tel: (512) 328-6650
    	FAX: (512) 328-1925
5279.9hope this helpsWELCLU::RAYMONDFri Jan 10 1992 07:1222
    Re .6:
    The address for upgrades to Prowrite v3.2 is:-
    
    New Horizons Software, Inc.,
    Attn: Prowrite 3.2 Upgrade
          PO Box 164260
          Austin, Texas 78716, USA.
          (allow 4 to 6 wks for delivery)
    
       The cost (outside the USA) of going from v3.0 or v3.1 is $30 inc
    shipping. Payment is by money order in U.S. funds or by Visa/Mastercard.
    You need to include original program disk & payment.
    NB. if paying by Visa/Mastercard also include your card no, name on the
    card, expiration date, address of card holder and your (or card holder's) 
    signature.
       Originally I had Prowrite v2.0 & wanted to upgrade to v3.2 but as
    you probably found out, nobody in the UK handles upgrades. About a
    month before Xmas ('91) I paid $70 by Visa (probably the safest method)
    and 3 weeks later my package arrived (v3.2.1); However, I'm still
    waiting to see my Visa statement to find out what exchange rate they
    used.