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    	NewTek has an Amiga 2000 with Video toaster that they
    sell with the NewTek logo as a standalone system. NewTek seems to
    play down the fact that it is Amiga based.
    	The MAC world is getting toasters by selling standalone Amiga/toaster
    systems and software that controls the system from the MAC. My guess
    is that the IBM world is going to get the same.
    
    		Steve P.
    

    
    If that's true then IMO it's alright.  The toaster seems to have
    boosted the Amiga to a more respectable level.  I don't want to
    see this wave of Amiga awareness to go by the wayside.
    
    ~Ray
    

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>    If that's true then IMO it's alright.  The toaster seems to have
>    boosted the Amiga to a more respectable level.  I don't want to
>    see this wave of Amiga awareness to go by the wayside.

	There is a risk that the  Amiga/Toaster  WITHOUT a Mac or PC as
the  "commanding front end"  is regarded as an anonymous video
peripheral that just can't function on its own.  This would drag the 
Amiga  DOWN,  not UP.

	R

    To fully utilize the toaster on an Amiga(from a video editing view) you
    should be controlling the toaster from an Amiga with a product such as 
    ShowMaker. You will be fine on a stand alone toaster for simple stuff,
    but if you want a production using several different inputs, misic and
    such then a Amiga being used as a server is the way to go. A Mac
    driving a toaster in a studio would outperform the standalone toaster.
    	Of course in regards to using lightwave etc, then the toaster is
    needed on a standalone mode. I am not sure how the Mac people are
    dealing with this yet. 
    							bill

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From: [email protected] (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: MacToaster?  Sundance Video Toaster Editing System........
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Jalil Farah) writes:
>
>	In the Amazing Amiga Ocotboer's issue they talk about the Mac
>and the Toaster.  I read the article a couple of times but really don't
>understand how the Mac and Toaster are working together.  Could someone who
>read the article and knows a bit more on this than I do tell me what they
>(NewTek, Commodore, Apple) are trying to do?  
 
   Newtek is trying to help Mac owners fool themselves, and to sell Toasters
to folks who don't own, and don't wish to own, Amigas.
 
   Newtek is selling a Toaster pre-installed in a 2000HD or 2500 with the
nasty word "Amiga" covered up. These are sold to fools who want to do video
but think themselves too stupid to deal with a "computer".
 
   The Toaster can be controlled via AREXX through the seriel port of the
Amiga. A Mac (or PC or sinclair for that matter) can produce the ASCII
string and send it out its own seriel port and thus "control" the Toaster.
 
   So, if you follow the demented logic, if you put a Toaster in an Amiga,
pretend that it isn't an Amiga, and send ASCII down a seriel line from a
Mac, you no longer have a "Amiga Video Toaster" but now have a "Mac Video
Toaster". If I thought this made sense then I own several 386's and a couple
of Sun workstations because I can "control" them via my modem!
 
                                    Chris Williams
                                    [email protected]