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| 5099.1 | depends on your needs | SAUTER::SAUTER | John Sauter | Thu Oct 03 1991 16:36 | 12 |
| What you need depends on what you want to do with the toaster. I have
seen an A2000HD with 7 MB of memory and a large disk run Toaster
software, including the 3D modeler, just fine. It has only one camera
attached so it doesn't need a TBC. Output is to two NTSC monitors.
However, this system is used only for learning and giving demos. If
you want to do video post-production you might need something more.
Also, the additional 2 MB of memory isn't useless with an accelerator,
it just isn't as fast as the 32-bit-wide memory on the accelerator
board. The A2000 described above has no accelerator at all.
John Sauter
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| 5099.2 | What do you what ? | ELWOOD::PETERS | | Thu Oct 03 1991 19:57 | 27 |
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What do you want to do with the toaster ?
1. 5 MByte of memory are required. 7 MBytes are required if you
want to run the paint program.
2. An accelerator is never required. If you want to create
animation ( 3D models and rendering ) the accelerator takes
MUCH less time. The the A3000 upgrades and the 68040 comming
there are great deals on used 68030 boards. Any memory on the
accelerator is use toward the 5/7 Mbyte requirements above.
3. TBCs ( time base correctors ), This has been explained many
times. TBCs provide 2 things. (1) the clean up your video
input. Because of the way a toaster works you need very stable
video. (2) A TBC sync's one video source to another. If you
have two or more video sources they need to use the same time
base. The toaster will lock to one source. All other signals
must use the same reference.
I suggest you find someone that has a toaster and get a demo and
find out exactly what is required for the work you want done.
Steve P.
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| 5099.3 | | KAHUNA::SUMNER | | Mon Oct 07 1991 13:37 | 25 |
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When I purchased my VT I tried using paint and 3D without buying
an accelerator. That lasted about 2 weeks! It was just to
frustrating waiting for a picture to appear on the screen in
paint, and rendering in lightwave... forget it! So I broke down
and bought one.
It all boils down as to what was said previously... what do you want
to do with it? I do alot of video work with mine so a TBC was a
must, I tried getting around it but couldn't.
If you want to get into 3D animation you have to think about Single
Frame controllers and single frame recorders. There are some ways
around this, but it will limit what you can do.
For what I wanted to get into the VT was the only way to go. With
this DTV market exploding the it is, new products are coming
out right and left. I've read that VT is developing excellent
support products for the toaster, buy NewTek has a rep for taking
forever for developing.
It cost me SEVERAL thousand dollars to get the setup I wanted, but
I didn't have an Amiga when I decided to get into this business. So,
your a couple grand ahead of the game already.
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| 5099.4 | Investment vs Payback | TROOA::KUPKE | | Tue Oct 08 1991 14:34 | 6 |
| It sounds though the dealer was partly right about the required
equipment. It is now a matter for me to decide on the investment vs the
payback. How much value can one attach to just having fun ?
Re .3 which accellerator did you get ?
Dietmar.
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| 5099.5 | How much value can one attach to just having fun ? | SAINT::STCLAIR | | Tue Oct 08 1991 17:20 | 12 |
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How much value can one attach to just having fun ?
A friend at work told me he had spent a fair amount of money. I was
surprised at the amount and said, "Don't those cost more than $1000".
He leaned forward and just inches from my face said, "Its a toy".
Which provided the justification for his purchase and since then many
of my own.
/doug
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| 5099.6 | | KAHUNA::SUMNER | | Wed Oct 09 1991 13:23 | 10 |
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I bought the 68030/22 with 1 meg. for $850.00. Prices are coming
down with the 68040 series on the market. According to NewTek the
33 mhz version is the ideal accelerator. The 22 mhz version works
just fine for me and the price was more realistic. I just saw the
22 mhz version selling for $815.00 at Creative Computers. If
interested you might also try ComputAbility for prices.
~Ray
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| 5099.7 | Toaster prices rising according to usenet | STAR::DCARR | Guru: a 4-letter word to Amiga owners | Thu Oct 17 1991 22:49 | 26 |
| Article: 8673
From: [email protected] (Mike Powell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Toaster Price change!
Date: 16 Oct 91 21:24:01 GMT
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD). - Santa Rosa, Ca.
Spoke with NewTek sales just now....
The Toaster is now prices at $2495.
The intro price is history. (Was $1595)
This new price includes a FIFTEEN DISK 2.0 upgrade and
an entirely new manual. Until the 2.0 software is out,
the current software will be shipping, but the upgrade will
ship free to the $2495-Toaster owners as it becomes available.
The 2.0 software upgrade will be available to all toaster
owners for $395, appearing around Dec. 15.
Get 'em while they're cheap!
-Mike-
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