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Title:AMIGA NOTES
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5043.0. "Interesting phone call from CBM VP..." by STAR::GUINEAU (but what was the question?) Fri Sep 13 1991 15:29

Article 8351 of comp.sys.amiga.misc:
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From: [email protected] ((Mark D. Manes), Norfolk State University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Knock me over with a feather... VP calls me!!??
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Folks, you could knock me over with a feather this afternoon.  My phone
rang.  The secretary said "Jeff Stilley, Vice President Sales, Commodore
Business Machines would like to speak to you".  I mumble... "ok".  

Mr. Stilly immediately launched into a discussion about how Commodore
intended to support the Amiga in the United States, not knowing that
I had already changed my mind based on _their_ recent actions.

I was assured over the phone by Mr. Stilley that Commodore was here to
stay in the United States.  Further, 2.04 will ship to Amiga 500/2000
in ROM and that the PowerUp program has had an incrediable impact on
sales and that they were overwhelmed by orders.  He added that all back 
orders will be filled very shortly.

Mr. Stilley asked me to relay to all that Commodore Business Machines
_understands_ and _needs/appreciates_ the 4,000,000 (his number!) Amiga 
Users.  He also said that the advocates of the Amiga is what has 
made Amiga the machine it is today.   He hoped that we all could 
continue carrying the flame for the Amiga, as every little bit helps.

He did agree with me when I said that "communication" would have 
prevented a lot of the doom and gloom postings that occurred.  He 
said he hoped to address that shortly.

I did not think to ask about ROMs for the A3000.  :-(

I did bend his ear a bit folks.  I told him about my Ninetendo Power Up
program idea.  I told him about my wish for more aggressive 'high end'
advertising.  I told him some of the things I have always wanted to
tell someone at Commodore.  The only thing that would have been better
is if Jim Dionne or Irving Gould himself had called me!

The one thing he said that excited me was "If you thought the power up
program was good... " hinting at a possible new campaign that would 
really blow us all away.

Anyway, I feel reassured about Commodore's stand in the U.S marketplace.
I am extremely impressed that someone from Commodore thought enough of
me to call me to re-assure me that indeed things were ok.   

His words "Jim Dionne did not move to the United States to close Commodore
Business Machines..." :-)  Between his discussion with me and my 
continued discussions with CATS folks, I am convinced that the Amiga
is what Commodore is placing their future on.  I am further convinced
that they intend to be a strong market pressence in the United States.

Folks, my clouds are now completely gone!  I have got to say to those
doubters out there.  I was _NOT_ threatened in any way by _anyone_ 
from Commodore.  Every conversation I had with Commodore was professional
and held with the highest regard.  

Watch out Commodore/Amiga bashers.  I am bbaaaccckkk.. with sword in
hand!  

<< I now return you back to your regular CDTV / CD-I bashing >>
 
-mark=

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5043.1TERSE::ROBINSONFri Sep 13 1991 15:367
>The one thing he said that excited me was "If you thought the power up
>program was good... " hinting at a possible new campaign that would 
>really blow us all away.

hmmm...  So where are the people with connections to the rumor hotline?

Dave
5043.2Another oneCVG::PETTENGILLmulpSat Sep 14 1991 02:4574
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From: [email protected] (George L Skank)
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Subject: Knock ME over with a feather also...  Vice President called me too!!
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     Folks, it's true!  Jeff Stilley, the *VICE PRESIDENT* of Commodore U.S.
Sales called me too, about two (maybe three) weeks ago!  I've been so busy with
school I forgot to post.  I had just come back from a canoe trip in the Boundry
Waters with my fiancee and had a phone message that I was supposed to call
the Vice President of Commodore about a posting I'd made to a bulletin board.
I was stunned, it's not every day that corporate presidents of *any* company
call me.  Naturally, I assumed that the message referred to was an Internet
posting I'd made right after Commodore reassigned all their Unix people.
I started the thread: "A moment of silence for our fallen friends at Commodore"
(yes I admit it).  So I'm thinking, he's probably not calling me to set up a job
interview.  Mr. Stilley was out of the country the first time I tried to call
him.  I finally got ahold of him Tuesday(?) of the next week.  Mr. Stilley has
just taken over the position of Vice President of Sales for Commodore in the
U.S.  Formerly, he worked for two other *LARGE* vendors of another brand of
personals (is it legal to quote names on the NET?).  Mr. Stilley is comitted
to the Amiga and said that the other computers he had sold, "were boring".

	All right, so what did Jeff Stilley call about anyway???

1)	Mr. Stilley basicly called to quell rumors that Unix would not be
	supported by Commodore, or that the 2.0 upgrade of Unix wouldn't
	ship.  Apparently Commodore has a lot of eggs in the Unix basket.
	Over 120 applications had been ported to Unix at the time we talked.

2)	Mr. Stilley explained that the reassignment of the Unix team was
	just that.  Commodore basicly felt that the team members who were
	reassigned could be put to better use elsewhere as the 2.0 version
	of Unix is about to ship.

3)	Commodore's total layoffs this year were less than 6% of the company's
	total workforce.  Most other vendors in the data processing field had
	much larger layoffs this year.

4)	Commodore posted a $48.6 Million profit this year (This is all from
	memory, I don't remember if this was for the last fiscal quarter or
	the entire fiscal year), up from the same time period last year,
	while almost all other vendors reported lower sales over the same
	time period last year.

5)	Finally, he said that sales of CDTV were doing great.


     Well folks, I have to admit, I was already impressed that people like
Dave Hanie, Andy Finkel, Bryan Nesbit, and the rest of "The Crew That Never
Rests" took time out of their busy schedule to post, but I have to say, a
phone call from the Vice President of Sales, now that's what I call customer
support!!!  What can we learn from all this?  Well, I think Mark Manes
origional posting echoed some of what Mr. Stilley and I talked about, and
that is that you shouldn't believe everything you read, especially unconfirmed
rumors.  I was unsure for a while there if I'd made a good choice in computers,
but now, I'm once again a pround owner of an A3000.  Long live the Amiga!!!
And death to single tasking operating systems!!!

						--George

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Senior, Electrical Engineering	|Now I are one.				  ///
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