| Your phone number is correct. I have found it best to call after 4:00
(Californina time). I use DECnet and X-windows (and Motif :-) on my
AmigaDOS, so feel free to email me if you think I can help. It also works
with TCP/IP, SLIP (I believe), and SANA. You can run clients and servers
on your local system without networking, provided you have the memory and
processing power.
BTW -- If you are thinking of using X-windows over a modem, I have heard it is
not useful at baud rates below 9600 baud. It's also pretty expensize $$. The
kit takes about 10 meg of disk space - 14 meg if you add the 100dpi fonts. You
should also know that I have never been able to get ASYNC DECnet to work over
a modem (even though its suppose to work). It also does NOT come with XTERM.
If your goal is just networking, the DECnet may be all you need. It allows
multiple terminal sessions over your "link", file transfer and directories,
and now has email. Given that AmigaDOS also provides for using the
"SAY" command or sound samples (to "call out" to the remote user), it's
pretty complete. The X-windows won't really buy you additional functionality
and it's a pretty heafty package in terms of resources.
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| Keith, I never had any trouble using Asynch DECnet through the serial
port. I believe I was using a normal "Scholar" modem and just dialed
into a local router setup for Asynch. I ran like this for quite a while,
until I got the ethernet board.
2400 baud is very painful, and not practical for X-windows (but it
does work). 9600 would be the way to go.
Steve
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| Article 128 of comp.sys.amiga.announce:
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From: [email protected] (Bob Beauchemin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.announce
Subject: Motif Toolkit for Amiga announcement
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 12 Sep 91 23:22:46 GMT
Sender: [email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected] (Bob Beauchemin)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Organization: S&B Software, Inc
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Approved: [email protected]
GfxBase, Inc and S&B Software, Inc are pleased to announce the
impending availability of a MOTIF Window Manager and MOTIF programmer's
toolkit for AmigaDOS.
The Motif Window Manager runs in conjunction with the GfxBase X Server.
The programs produced by the toolkit can be used over a TCP/IP or
Decnet to other X servers on the network or displayed on GfxBase AmigaDOS
X Server with or without a network connection.
Now you can use your Amiga and SAS C Compiler to produce
platform-independant C code for one of the industry's most popular Graphic
User Interfaces.
Details follow.
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Product Name: OSF/Motif Programmer's Toolkit for the Amiga
Personal Computer
Motif Version: Motif Version 1.1.2
X Version: X11 R4
AmigaDOS Version: AmigaDOS 1.3 or 2.0
Contact: Bob Beauchemin Dale Luck
S&B Software, Inc or GfxBase, Inc
6503 SW 46th Place 1881 Ellwell Dr
Portland, OR, 97221 Milpitas, CA, 95035
(503)-244-5029 (408)-262-1469
Product Description:
OSF/Motif Programmer's Toolkit for Amiga is an implementation of the
Motif toolkit by the Open Software Foundation. Used in conjunction with the
X Window System Programmer's Toolkit for Amiga, it allows the development,
testing and execution of Motif programs under the native AmigaDOS operating
system.
The toolkit consists of Motif include files and libraries adapted to
allow development of Amiga clients using the SAS C compiler.
The UIL User Interface Language compiler, a Motif development tool,
and numerous Motif source code examples are included.
These programs run on the Amiga personal computer and can communicate
with either local displays through "X Window for the Amiga" X server
or remote displays on other X Window based servers through a network.
Programs developed with this product are almost completely source-code
compatible with Motif programs on other platforms and operating systems,
including Sun, DEC (VMS and Ultrix), HP, and IBM.
The Motif toolkit produces X Window applications that, when run under
the MWM window manager(included), provide an industry-standard graphic user
interface. The behavior of this interface is very similar to Presentation
Manager; actually it consists of a superset of PM and Microsoft Windows
behaviors. Because of its ease-of-use and consistancy, Motif is fast
becoming one of the industry standards in graphic user interfaces (GUIs).
Motif Programmer's Toolkit for Amiga Contents:
Motif release 1.1.2 include files
Motif release 1.1.2 object code libraries
Motif Window Manager (MWM) binary
User Interface Language (UIL) compiler binary
Widget Meta Language (WML) a UIL compiler customization tool
Motif/UIL source code examples and makefiles
Software prerequisites:
SAS C compiler (formerly Lattice C) for the Amiga version 5.10a
X Window System Programmers Toolkit for the Amiga from GfxBase Ver 4.2
(Included with "base" Motif Toolkit Package, see below).
X Window System (X server) for the Amiga Computer from GfxBase Ver 3.3
or
Conection to remote X Window servers through Commodore TCP/IP (ethernet)
or DECnet (ethernet/serial). TSSnet from Syndesis provides the DECnet
transport capability.
Hardware requirements:
Host Computer: Amiga A3000, A2500, A2000, A1000, A500 models
Mass storage: Requires 15 megabytes of hard disk space or NFS partition
RAM: Requires 4 megabytes of RAM for software development,
addition storage recommended.
Availability: September 15, 1991
Price:
Motif Programmer's Toolkit (includes X Programmer's Toolkit & MWM) $495
Motif Window Manager (separately) $99
Special price for current owners of X Programmer's Toolkit
Bundles available with other GfxBase products
Trademarks:
Amiga is a trademark of Commodore-Amiga, Inc
X Window system is a trademark of MIT
OSF/Motif is a trademark of Open Software Foundation
Presentation Manager and Windows are trademarks of Microsoft, Inc
SAS C Compiler/Amiga is a trademark of SAS, Inc
XView is a trademarks of Sun Microsystems, Inc
OPEN LOOK is a trademark of Sun Microsystems and AT&T
DECnet, VMS and Ultrix are trademarks of Digital Equipment Corp
TSSnet is a trademark of Thursby Software Systems
--
Please see monthly postings for the disclaimer, the introduction, the charter,
and submission instructions. Comments to [email protected].
MAIL ALL SUBMISSIONS TO [email protected] (don't auto-post).
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| Dale Luck faxed me back with details of his distributor in the UK.
They are the Amiga Centre Scotland, 031 557 4242. And a very useful
bunch of guys they appear to be. Commodore UK never mentioned them.
However, their opinion of Commodore UK and my opinion of Commodore UK
coincide.
The only downer is the price they are charging for the software: �399
This compares with �225 ($395) that Dale claims he can sell it to me
for. Though I guess, once you add on postage and packing, duty and VAT,
it should come pretty close to �399.
They also have TSSNET; another piece of software none of the Commodore
recognised distributors seemed to have heard about.
Angus
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