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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

5009.0. "".DMS" file extensions ???" by VIVIAN::D_VISTUER () Sun Sep 01 1991 18:22

    I have recently come across some files on a friends harddisk which have
    the extension .DMS. These files are about 250Kb to 1.5Mb in size and he
    is lost as to what they may be.
    	Initially I thought they were compacted files like .LZH or .ZOO,
    etc. However, I am not sure if they are files that have been produced
    by some kind of commercial package. An Analagy would be Dpaint3
    producing picture files with the extension .DP3, so enabling easy
    identification of these files.
    	I would be grateful if someone could advise me on the matter.
    
    
    Thanks & Regards.
    
    Dave.
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5009.1DiskmasherGIDDAY::MORANMon Sep 02 1991 06:1211
    
    .DMS <==> DiskMasher files.
    
    This is a whole disk archieved by the program DMS.
    
    I think the program to read/write/view these files is on EOT somewhere.
    Look for a file called DMS10???.lzh
    
    Shaun.
    
    
5009.2Something new everyday !.VIVIAN::D_VISTUERMon Sep 02 1991 07:052
    Thanks, Shaun.
    
5009.3HSSTPT::WILSONTLLead Trumpet (Read that...LEED!)Tue Sep 03 1991 15:431
Check note 4952.all for more information on DMS format.
5009.4more .dms woesRGB::SCOTTWed Oct 09 1991 09:2416
    Thought I'd continue with the .dms discussion here - makes it easier
to find!

    I've downloaded the dms version 3 archive, unpacked it, and attempted
to run v3, but I get an error message something like "Can't link...".
(I should have written it down :-(. So I then tried the version 02 dms,
which did unpack the alphaomega.dms file, without errors, but the floppy
created didn't boot. I also tried it on St-anim, with similar results.
*sigh* I'm using zmodem to a PC here at work, then MSH at home. This seems
to work fairly well, at least with .lzh archives...

   Has anyone else successfully used the dms-1_03.lzh from eot::amiga:[upload}?


				Rob-who-definitely-wants-some-brain-candy!
5009.5me too...FSDEV::JBERNARDJohn Bernard 297-2563 MR01-1/L87Wed Oct 09 1991 11:0710
    I too have had problems with "DMS-1_03.lzh"...  The CHECK-DMS.c text
    file unpacks ok, but the DMS-1_03 executable produces the error
    "not an executable file...." on my 3000....
    
    DMS102.lzh unpacks ok but doesnt seem to know how to handle all the
    demos....
    
    sniffle...sigh...
    
    
5009.6I thought it was just me!FORTY2::CADWALLADERRifle butts to crush you down...Wed Oct 09 1991 11:0910
    Can anybody recommend a preferable disk-packer?
    
    I too have had problems with just about nothing working when using DMS,
    I attributed it to the PeeSea I was using but maybe it was DMS, since
    it seems I was not the only one having problems.
    
    In fact I don't remember ever using DMS and *not* getting a checksum or
    header error -regardless of whether the disk worked or not!
    
    								- JIM CAD*
5009.7DEFOE::JAMIEThunder knows all things.Wed Oct 09 1991 12:147
    I'll upload my version of DMS. I've got something called "Deluxe DMS"
    which has a menu front end. If I remember, I'll upload it tonight.
    
    Cheers,
    
    
    				Jamie.
5009.8My experience with DMSAMIGA::RIESOS/2 = Half an Operating SystemWed Oct 09 1991 14:4416
I have also had many problems with DMS files. Many don't even unpack, and some
that do, subsequently dont work. I never had any problems with LHWARP, and
though I have not used it much, ZOOM seems to work quite well. I think that
DMS is very buggy. I know v1.02 will not write to anything but DF0:!

I was the one who upload 1.03 to EOT:. I got it from AB20 and uploaded it
to EOT before checking it out. I cannot get it to work either, complains
about "not an executable file", so I assume that the upload to AB20 was
bad. Does anyone else have a working copy of 1.03 that they could upload
to EOT?

The one thing that I like about ZOOM over any of the other whole disk
archivers is that it gives you a verify option. I think that this a
necessity when dealing with floppies.

Frank
5009.9HEAVY::JAMIEThunder knows all things.Wed Oct 09 1991 14:5814
    As I've already said, I'll upload my DMS program to here tomorrow.
    It works.
    
    DMS also has a TEST function to check that a DMS archive is ok, so I
    guess that is equivalent to the verify in LHWARP ?
    
    Unless there has been a very recent update of ZOOM, it is extremely
    bug ridden. I have a field test version of the latest which seems to
    be robust to the point where I have not had a problem with it. But as
    I say, I'm not sure that it's publicly available yet.
    
    Cheers,
    
    				Jamie.
5009.10AMIGA::RIESOS/2 = Half an Operating SystemWed Oct 09 1991 19:115
I have uploaded a newer version of ZOOM (V4.2) from ab20 to EOT. There is a
readme there as well. This one claims to have fixed many of the problems with
zoom. Zoom does at least have an Intuition interface.

Frank
5009.11DEFOE::JAMIEThunder knows all things.Thu Oct 10 1991 05:506
    I've copied DMS.LHW to EOT. It's got DELUXE DMS on it. It seems ok to
    me. Let me know if anyone has any problems with it.
    
    Cheers,
    
    				Jamie.
5009.12more problems!RGB::SCOTTFri Oct 11 1991 10:1812
>    I've copied DMS.LHW to EOT. It's got DELUXE DMS on it. It seems ok to
>    me. Let me know if anyone has any problems with it.
    

     Thanks! But I'm still having problems - this time, with LHWARP.
     Using version 2.03(?), it gives me "Can't allocate track.disk
     buffer". I tried booting in 68000 mode, increasing the stack
     size upto 1 meg, but still no joy. *sigh* I also downloaded
     the version in eot::amiga:[amiga.utilities], but that was
     an old one (1.x). Any more hints?? 

							Rob
5009.13Same problem here with LHWARP on DMS.LHWCSSE32::SMITHReality, just a visible imagination?Fri Oct 11 1991 10:519
Is there any reason Deluxe DMS must be an LHwarp floppy?  Does it have a special 
boot block?  I really hate utilities that will only run from a floppy.  Demos 
are ok but utilities belong on a HD.

Any chance of re-posting Deluxe DMS in LZH, ZOO or ARC format?

Thanks,

...Ed
5009.14DEFOE::JAMIEThunder knows all things.Fri Oct 11 1991 11:211
    OK. I'll upload it again in zoo format on Monday.
5009.15compressing bigger "disks"CIMNET::KYZIVATPaul KyzivatSat Jan 18 1992 21:5017
I'm looking for a "disk" cruncher which will work on a RAD: device larger
than a floppy.  I looked at both DMS and ZOOM, but they are both restricted
to floppy sized things.

What I am trying to do is create a single boot disk which creates a
somewhat larger RAD: system disk.  I intend this to be a system to be used
to recover from possible hard disk failures (knock on wood), or when there
is some reason to want to avoid the disk.  I find that a single disk
doesn't hold enough to be useful, but figure I should be able to get 1.5-2
times that much in RAD off a single compressed disk.

I can do this using LHARC, but it is quite slow.

Are there any variants of LHWARP, DMS, ZOOM which can handle larger
devices?

	Paul