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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

4947.0. "BRU under AmigaDOS 2.0" by PAMSRC::63643::BARRETT (Keith meister, making notes) Tue Aug 06 1991 08:29

    I'm having a problem using BRU under AmigaDOS 2.0
    
    Does anyone know how you can add files to the end of an existing BRU
    tape once it has been rewound?
    
    I can't find a method of "adding" to a tape once that tape has been
    rewound, or removed from the drive (because putting the tape back
    into the drive causes it to rewind). If you use ntape: (which doesn't
    force a rewind), it works fine as long as don't remove the tape,
    reboot, or do anything that may otherwise force a rewind. BUT; once
    that tape has been rewound/removed, using ntape: to add to that tape
    will cause it to overwrite the existing files.
    
    Using -e or -t to "skip" over files before writing doesn't work
    either. You get a "not formatted" error when you attempt the first -c
    after you've done your "positioning".
    
    
    I thought about trying TAR, but it seems that every time I use it my
    system crashes (even though I'm not referring to the tape drive).
    
    
    Keith Barrett
    
    BTW -- I have a CBM tape drive.
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4947.1Looking for TCTLPAMSRC::63643::BARRETTSpeed Limit: 100 mipsThu Aug 08 1991 07:1547
    
    I'm still trying to solve this. Does anyone have this TCTL program the
    following article is talking about? (it's not on TAPE::)
    
    
!>I can;t believe I have to live with the restriction that I must
!>always load all 100+ meg of information onto my system at once before backing
!>it up, or waste a whole tape (and the $$) to backup 10 floppies of info.
! 
!Yeah, use the TCTL program I posted a few months ago.  If you don't have it,
!check with an Amiga site that archives useful binaries.  It was posted to,
!I believe, c.s.a.programmer.  Perhaps it should go to the c.binaries.a
!moderator for his queue of "things to post".  (If you can't find a local
!copy, drop me mail.  I only have 2400baud to work with :-( so if there's
!a lot of requests I'll definately send it to c.b.a)
 
!Here's the usage message from TCTL.  I have marked operations which may
!only be available on my Archive Viper with an asterisk (listed as
!"Vendor-specific" in the Operations Guide for the Viper).  It uses
!SCSIDirect and as such doesn't require (and may interfere with) the
!operation of BTN (which I use :-) and friends.
!------------------------------------------------------------------------
!Usage:	tctl [-s #] cmd1 [... cmdn]
!	-s		Select the SCSI ID of the tape drive (default 4)
!These commands take no parameters:
!      *	eod		Move to EOD
!	erase		Erase the tape
!	msense		Print the write-protect mode (on=1/off=0),
!			buffering mode (on=1/off=0), and density (120/150)
!      *	reqblk		Print out current block position (blocks start at 1)
!	rewind		Rewind the tape
!	sense		Print out request sense data
!These commands take 1 parameter:
!      *	fsb n		Forward Space n Blocks
!      *	fsf n		Forward Space n Filemarks
!      *	fssf n		Forward Space n Sequential Filemarks
!      *	seek n		Seek to block n (blocks start at 1)
!	verify n	Run CRC verification on n blocks
!	writefm n	Write n filemarks on tape
!These commands take special parameters:
!	inquiry [n]	Print out inquiry data (only the first n bytes)
!	mselect b d	Select the buffering mode (on=1/off=0)
!			and density (120/150)
    
    
    Keith Barrett
    
4947.2HDBackup 'forgets' DF2:DECWET::DAVISMark W. Davis 206.865.8749Mon Nov 04 1991 17:5618
    Having just upgraded to v2.04 of the OS I attempted to backup using the
    HDbackup supplied with the release to floppy.  I have a DF0: and a DF2:
    - one internal and one external.  When I select both floppy drives and
    start the backup I get a requestor to insert a diskette in drive 0.  I
    do this AND insert a diskette into drive 2.  The backup chugs along
    writing to df0: and when it is full starts writing to df2:  I place
    another diskette into df0: and when df2: is full it starts writing to
    df0: and I place another diskette into df2:.  When the third floppy is
    full (in df0:) I get a requestor asking me to place the 4th floppy into
    DF0:!!  When I remove and reinsert the floppy into DF2: or try to get
    HDbackup to recognize df2: nothing happens except for the requestor
    reappearing.  It appears that the backup program forgets that there are
    two floppy drives after writing to the 3rd diskette.  It is very
    consistent - 3rd diskette, forget drive df2:...  Anyone encounter any
    problems with HDbackup?
    
    mark
    
4947.3VERGA::MACDONALDHome of Digital Realtime PubsTue Nov 05 1991 09:122
    
    Yep .. same thing happened with me!! Must be a bug.
4947.4will probably never see itSALEM::LEIMBERGERWed Nov 06 1991 04:035
    I still use Quarterback, so I haven't tried this utility yet. Most
    likely I may never try it. It seems funny to have a bug like this crop
    up . You would think this was one the beta testers should have
    resolved.
    								bill
4947.5FROCKY::BALZERChristian Balzer DTN:785-1029Wed Nov 06 1991 04:2711
Re: .4

>    up . You would think this was one the beta testers should have
>    resolved.

Hehehe. I never bothered to use BRU for making backups to floppy disk and I
doubt any other developer (and thus beta tester) has... ;-)

Cheers,

<CB>
4947.6BHOVS1::WILSONTLLead Trumpet (Read that...LEED!)Wed Nov 06 1991 13:244
    I've tried BRU, but with only one drive.  I just had to test it when I
    saw it.  (So sue me, I come from an RSX-11D background.  8^).
    
    Tony
4947.7Too slowNAPIER::MCAFEESteve McAfeeWed Nov 06 1991 16:276
    I tried it to a tape.  Software wise hdbackup/bru was nice, but tar with
    the BTN tape driver was at LEAST 40% faster!  Also, I'm not sure you
    can backup two devices to one tape with hdbackup/bru.  This is no
    problem for tar/btn.
    
    -steve
4947.8I came, I saw, I leftDECWET::DAVISMark W. Davis 206.865.8749Wed Nov 06 1991 16:394
    Ami-back works for me.  I just wanted to see how hdbackup/bru
    functioned.  I came, I saw, I left!
    
    mark (thinking about a tape drive, but oh the $$$$$!)