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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

4891.0. "RZ23 on 2090a " by SHIPS::NEAL_D () Fri Jul 12 1991 08:15

  Can someone who has done this give me a definitive answer. I was putting it
 on last night and prep kept failing. I have looked through all the notes I can
find on this and there is a great deal of info, but because of the variety of
controllers used no answer set in stone.

  1) I have enabled the drive to spinup on poweron.
  2) Connected cable to rz23 assuming pin 1 next to power connector.
  3) Connected cable to 2090a pin 1 at the bottom.
  4) What unit number should the disk be? The manual seems to indicate first 
     scsi drive should be made unit 3 and called DH2: Is this also scsi id 3?
     The manual seems to contradict itself in a few places so what is a working 
     scsi unit number and mounlist for  1 scsi drive only on a 20290a?
  5) Other scsi jumpers j4,5 & 6. Working settings?
  6) I am manual preping it with 8 surfaces, 33 sector and 776 cyls.OK?
 
 I have use an st506 drive ok on this controller but don't know if the scsi port
 works. The st506 drive was dh0: and autobooted ok. Will the rz23 autoboot on
 the 2090a?
 Have I got the records for the number of questions in a note? Was that another?
  
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4891.1KAOFS::J_DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowFri Jul 12 1991 16:4113
    The SCSI drive will only boot if the ST-506 drive does not (non
    bootable or not there).  Yes it must be DH3 which is not the same as
    SCSI I.D. which could be 0 AND EQUAL to your mountlist entry.
    
    Make sure you make a small partition at the beginning (2-3 cylinders)
    because this first partition is mounted automaticly by the 2090A and
    will be in the OFS (slow file system).  The rest of the drive can be
    mounted in your startup or with the mount command in a CLI.  All
    partitions must be formatted before use and must agree with your
    mountlist entry for each partition.
    
    Jean
    
4891.2RE: rz23 on 2090a SHIPS::NEAL_DTue Jul 16 1991 12:256
 Thanks for the reply Jean, so are you saying it should be DH3: not DH2: but my
scsi number can be any id 0-6 in my mounlist and on the drive?
 Also how about the settings of the other switches on the rz23 4, 5 and 6.
Anyone any suggestions?
    Dave
4891.3Read the manual firstKAOFS::J_DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowTue Jul 16 1991 13:247
    Check out note 2610.*  I had some performance problems with a SCSI
    drive on the 2090A untill I read the manual and did what it instructed
    to do.
    
    Jean
    
    
4891.4RE: rz23 on 2090a SHIPS::NEAL_DWed Jul 17 1991 09:157
 Looks like you had some fun in note 2610. I am not having performance problems,
I just don't seem to be talking to the drive at all so wanted to know that all
my jumper, mountlist settings are ok before I start on the suspecting hardware
faults. When I try to prep the drive, it thinks about it, then I get a prep 
failed message. I have tried another rz23 that did the same thing so I think
I may have a problem with the cable/2090a.
   Dave  
4891.5KAOFS::J_DESROSIERSLets procrastinate....tomorrowWed Jul 17 1991 11:0523
    If the cable is connected backwards, the drive will not do anything. 
    You can try to flip the cable.  Make sure you have the right cable too!
    depending on which side of the cable the connectors are installed,
    signals may end up on the wrong pins.  You can check with an ohm-meter
    between ground on the module and ground on the drive, you should have
    continuity between the two (disconnect the power cables to make sure
    the connection is not made there).
    
    That's right it should be DH2 if memory serves me right but SCSI unit 0
    Amigados expects the first SCSI unit to be called DH2 and this must
    agree with the mountlist.  Size can be calculated by multiplying 
    heads * sectors * cylinders = number of blocks
    SCSI does not care about physical numbers so you can "make" a drive to
    be 1 head 1 sector and 203,125 cylinders = RZ23 (104Mb).
    as long as the numbers are pretty close, you should be OK.
    
    When you prep the drive, make sure you use the manual mode, otherwise
    the program uses funny values which may not agree with what you have.
    
    Have "fun"
    
    Jean
    
4891.6Still no go..SHIPS::NEAL_DThu Aug 15 1991 12:567
 I seem to be set up ok . Double checked ,. But when prep is run on res2:
I see a quick flick of the led from the drive. I then enter in all the parameters
in manual mode and the drive led comes on and stays on. After this point i have 
to reboot . To me it sounds like a bad controller. 
 Thanks for the reply Jean. I have been on holiday and offset.
    Dave
4891.7RZ's are toughSALEM::LEIMBERGERFri Aug 16 1991 06:4520
    I had the same problem when I put my RZ23 on the GVP SCSI bus. What I
    ended up doing was I removed my 40meg, put the RZ on the card, and
    formatted it with the floppy based software. Then I added the 40 meg
    to the end of the bus. It works well now. If I had the RZ on the end
    it would hang.
    	Now I am trying to get an RZ24 online to replace the RZ23. No fun!
    I can use the same procedure above,and get it to format. But I can't
    get the 40 meg to boot first regardless of what I do. If I boot off the
    floppy I see all devices. If I do manage to boot the 40 meg I don't
    see the RZ. IF the RZ boots I end up with a dead CLI. (nothing is there
    of course). Now I think I could copy WB to the RZ24 and then boot and
    see all devices but then I don't want that. I have also had the RZ
    formatted,and tried to reformat in amigados, an got an "DH0 is write
    protected" error message. The controller also seems to get confused
    if I format, and go back to reprep. It tells me I am exceeding the
    size of the drive. I have a call into GVP. RE -1 try my original
    approach to see if it will work for your controller. strange beast
    these RZ's. BTW anyone know how to hook up the led on the RZ24. It is
    not the same as the RZ23. (light just stays on).
    								bill