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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

4787.0. "suggestions for framebuffers etc." by DECAUX::VNATIM::HELMUT (She's always a VAX to me) Fri May 31 1991 05:10

	Hi,

	I'm planning to buy a framebuffer or a similar thingie, but I
	don't know at all what's the pros and cons of each product.

	Can you give me your opinions about the various products
	(preferably your own expierience), supported software (or
	should that be: software that supports the board ) and technical
	specs (resolution, no of colors ...).
	In particular I'm interested in the HAM-E product if it's only 
	cheap or if it can match a many-thousand bucks card.

	I'm using an A2000C and I'm going for Imagine. Please can you
	also mention into which slot the card fits, because I also plan
	to buy a flickerfixer (the Commo product maybe), so that these
	to products don't get in each others way.

	Thanks
	HeLmUt
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4787.1BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonTue Jun 04 1991 16:4935
    
    are you interested in image capture or just using it as an output
    device for more colors?
    
    HAM-E looks like the least cost way to get more colors, but I've
    never seen it demoed.  I have seen DCTV demoed, looks nice but
    doesn't do RGB yet.
    
    The framegrabber and framebuffer cost more, but offer much faster
    frame grabbing than DCTV.
    
    I bought the framebuffer.  The good point is how fast it can grab
    an image, the bad point is the software.  And the need for something
    to display the composite video so you can see what you grabbed.  It
    doesn't genlock the composite into the RGB signal.
    
    I tried the framegrabber for a couple days, much nicer software but
    the color version doesn't grab 24 bit pictures.  If you have a 1084
    monitor it would let you flip between the workbench screen and
    the composite output from the keyboard.
    
    Has anybody tried the new version of ADPro with the framebuffer?
    I've been getting too many "could not decode frame" with the
    framebuffer 1.01 software lately (when it tries to convert the
    picture to ham iff).  Does it do anything like grabbing a
    couple of frames and averaging them to come up with a stable
    image?  Or is just for image manipulation?
    
    The latest trend seems to be bundled software, like a paint program.
    The framebuffer comes with an ad for MacroPaint which costs about
    $250.  At that kind of price it's almost worth buying either Ham-E
    or DCTV to get their bundled paint program plus the hardware to run it on.
    
    Dave
    
4787.2ELWOOD::PETERSTue Jun 04 1991 23:1544
    
    	As always the first part of any purchase is to define what you
    want it to do.
    
    	Do you want RGB output or composite ?
    		RGB is greate for displaying at home but composite output
    		is required to video tape the result.
    
    	Do you want the ability to show an animation in real time or just
    	single frames ?
    		I don't know about HAM-E but DCTV seems to be the only
    		product that can display anim files. DCTV seems to be
    		limited to 10-15 frames/sec. Even this rate requires at
    		least a 25 MHZ 68030. Slower processors will display anim
    		files at a slower rate. I have even read about people
    		getting DCTV to be a real time paint box for a Video
    		toaster.
    
    	If you want to look at stills or record frame by frame the
    	firecracker 24, mimetics Framebuffer and video toaster offer
    	true 24-bit per pixel framebuffers.
    		All three support great frame caputure as well as great
    		displays. Each of these cards will take a few seconds
    		to load a new image ( from RAM: about 10 Sec ).
    
    
    	What slot ?
    		DCTV and HAM-E use the parallel port and tie into the AMIGA
    		RGB output. They don't use a slot.
    		Firecracker 24 and mimetics use standard AMIGA slots.
    		Video Toaster uses the video slot.
    
    	I have used a mimetics frambuffer, DCTV and a Video toaster. They
    	all have the same resolution ( 736x484 ) give or take a little.
    	They each have composite output. After a VCR has recorded the
    	signal the picture was about the same. On a monitor the Video
    	toaster had the best output.
    
    	If I was getting started, DCTV gives the best value. The ouput is
    	very good and the real time paint program is the best. DCTV also
    	includes a very good conversion program.
    
    			Steve P.
    
4787.3some more questions/infoDECAUX::VNATIM::HELMUTShe's always a VAX to meWed Jun 05 1991 12:4426
	re .1, .2:

	Primarily I want to have true-color for raytracing. The images
	(maybe later animations) should be recorded onto tape. (S-VHS VCR)

	Second it should be capable of working together with a genlock.

	I don't need a (realtime)digitizer, I would prefer an alternative
	RGB output instead.

	Another thing would be the VideoToaster, as for what I understand
	it's not only a framegrabber/framebuffer but can also manipulate
	the picture doing it in the hardware, like flipping, rotating, ...

	True ?	

	But there's one big drawback: at least at the moment there exists
	only a NTSC-version and I need PAL. The PAL version is announced
	in late 92.

	So please can you also state if this products is/will be soon be
	available in a PAL version.

	Thanks
	Helmut
4787.4HamECGOO01::LEMOINEWed Jun 05 1991 19:4014
    	HamE does NOT use the Parallel port it only uses the RGB out for
    	the monitor, you then plug the monitor into HamE. All of HamE's
        info re. Image size, video mode is contained in a magic cookie or 
    	small block of data that is included in the IFF file that is
        displayed to the screen. This info is not visible on a normal 
    	screen but will show up if you try to display a HaMe picture on
    	a normal Amiga display as a messy palette etc.
    	All software for HamE is free and is the BEST in the BUSINESS
    	it is upgraded so often that by the time you get a the latest
    	version you already are two revs behind. (more features per
    	upgrade) not bug fixes.
    	It is an outstanding product!!
    		John lemoine
    
4787.5Ben WilliamsVERGA::MACDONALDHome of Digital Realtime PubsThu Jun 06 1991 15:364
    Ben Williams also wrote the AVT_Master software for the AVT interface.
    Real superb piece of bug-free programming given it's elaborate
    feature-laden UI.
    
4787.6MacroPaint $139.00SALEM::LEIMBERGERMon Jun 10 1991 07:049
    re MacroPaint, I picked up MacroPaint this past week. It lists for
    $139.00, and I got the 20% software discount off that. I have been
    toying with the idea of a 24 bit device but am waiting until the dust
    settles. I like some aspects of HAM-E, the ads promise alot, but I lean
    toward DCTV for its composit output. As for Free software, its a good
    marketing ploy but beyound that I'm not impressed. Lets face the
    reality that ALL the devices come with software. You could say that
    DCTV id 599.00 and the software is free!
    							bill
4787.7DCTV & HAMECGOO01::LEMOINEMon Jun 10 1991 12:2010
    DCTV's composite output is very poor. Most people who are serious about
    video already have genlocks as well as digitizer so the ccomposite
    output of DCTV is not much of an incentive. DCTV's digitizer doesnt
    come close to the accuracy of DigiView. HAME's direct support of
    DigiView makes a far more useful/accurate digitizing system. You can
    mulitask DigiView and HAME's IP post production tools and get results
    very quickly. 
    To use DCTV effectively you also need two monitors, one for AMI and one
    to see the smeary output of DCTV as it is going to tape etc.
     
4787.8DCTV is what you see is what you getSALEM::LEIMBERGERMon Jun 10 1991 13:0124
    re -1
    	While I see a reference to smeary in regard to the DCTV output I
    think you are missing a very important point. IF you were to use DCTV
    correctly and paint in NTSC on a good moniter I think you would get a 
    very good image. If you were to scan an image,and output it without
    modification then you may get a smeary output. If you were to take an
    image directly from Digiview,and output it to video you may also get
    a lot of smearing ect. the smearing is caused by NTSC. With DCTV you
    have the ability to paint in NTSC. This means you could develop a
    picture that will look excellent when put to tape. You could say that
    DCTV gives you "What you see is what you get" while HAM-E is what you
    see is what you hope to get. It is very easy to generate illegale NTSC
    colors when working in RGB. If you have a DCTV image you don't like
    you can adjust it until it is perfect with RGB it's adjust cross your
    fingers, adjust again and repeat until it is right. I paint in Dpaint
    with my genlock hooked up to an NTSC moniter,and I use this for video
    virtually ignoring the amiga moniter. I think that we Amiga owners need
    to adjust or mindset in regards to the final output if it is going to
    end up on tape regardless of the device we are using. MacroPaint will
    give great pics at 4096 colors but would suffer the same fate when
    converted to NTSC. I cannot see how a product that deals in RGB can
    compete with one that can work realtime NTSC when the finished product
    is destined for NTSC.
    							bill   
4787.9still a bit confused ...DECAUX::VNATIM::HELMUTShe's always a VAX to meMon Jun 10 1991 13:0810
	As I understand now DCTV has only composite video out.
	HAM-E has RGB.
	But what I miss is wether HAM-E also has compostite output or	
	just RGB. And more if HAM-E can be coupled with a genlock.

	Hope anybody sheds some light on this.

	Thanks
	hELMUT
4787.10Vote for DCTVCGOFS::DREWSteve DrewMon Jun 10 1991 15:0518
  re .7
->     DCTV's composite output is very poor. Most people who are serious about

  Gee, mines not. I am very pleased with my DCTV the difference between viewing
  a ham pic vs the same pic created directly to 24 bit to DCTV is outstanding.

  I have a friend with a DCTV & 24bit Firecracker board. Of course the fire
  cracker looks very crisp but DCTV still compares very well, and for the
  price difference and with the fact that DCTV does much better digitizing that
  digiview or like.. its a good buy.

  Also DCTV is much friendlier on your hard drive, with Firecracker the pictures
  can be about 1 Meg in size, where as with DCTV you can store them in DCTV
  compressed format resulting in 100K file.

  Steve/

4787.11re -.2 HAM-E outputs a "modified" HAM picDECWET::DAVISyou always get what you deserveMon Jun 10 1991 23:566
    HAM-E outputs to your RGB monitor.  You will have to use an encoder to
    output composite, or NTSC signals.  HAM-E works with some "genlocks"
    but not all.  I've heard that they have a remedy for this.  The current
    "Amazing Computing" magazine has a review of HAM-E.
    
    mark
4787.12VERGA::MACDONALDHome of Digital Realtime PubsTue Jun 11 1991 11:004
    
    What excatly does HAM-E do? Does it provide a higher resolution mode
    for non-multisync RGB monitors like my Sony 1311CR? Or, is it just for
    viewing and manipulating specialty HAM-E graphics?
4787.13The resolution is the same...WAREGL::WILSONTLLead Trumpet (Read that...LEED!)Tue Jun 11 1991 14:415
HAM-E, as I understand it, changes the base 16 colors for the picture on a 
scan-line by scan-line basis, thus yielding a larger number of colors per pic-
ture.  This helps remove some of the color transition anomalies inherent in HAM.

It does not give any higher resolution.
4787.14Ham-E looks good, but so does DCTVTFH::KIRKa simple songTue Jun 11 1991 15:4425
From what I've read, Ham-E is like HAM, except instead of 16 palette colors 
there are 256, and instead of 4096 possible colors ((2^4)^3) there are 262144
((2^6)^3).  Another way of looking at it is using 8 bit planes instead of 6 
and gets effectively 18 bit color.

It is also supposed to support VGA graphic directly, and 256 level grey scale.

Apparently it does not support the flicker fixer, since that's based on 6 bit 
planes.

I've seen two versions mentioned, something like $299 for regular, and $399 
for Hi-Res.  

Is it very hard to convert from RGB to composite?  I think it's a lot easier 
than doing it the other way.  (I have a little Commodore widget (model number
mumble-mumble 520?) that I think does RGB -> composite.  Cost about $30 and 
does a decent job, though probably not professional quality.  I have video 
taped off of it and it seems quite nice.)

Any more details about the respective file sizes and animation possibilities 
between DCTV and Ham-E?

Cheers,

Jim, still debating what to spend my tax refund on... .-)
4787.15DCTV does animsCGOFS::DREWSteve DrewTue Jun 11 1991 17:1633
	DCTV does animations no problem, since the DCTV file format is
	small enough to allow enough throughput to get a decent number of
	frames per sec. I don't think HAM-E is capable of anims, can anyone
	confirm?

	I just use standard anim tools or even imagine to generate DCTV
	animations and standard tools to display them back (ie showanim).

	I convert .GIF pics (ie 256 color 640x480 VGA equiv)  to DCTV via
	1> giftorgb pic.gif pic.rgb
	2> ifftodctv -b pic.rgb  (creates pic.DCTV)

	With good results! Actually once you have it in DCTV paint you can
	use it's image converting capabilities to save it in HAM, or any
	other IFF format.

	The negative point about DCTV is that due to the composit video
	picture viewing pictures with very high contrasts in color ie 
	black/white checkered ground, you get some ringing (fringing?) at 
	the point where the colors meet. This is where HAM-E would probably 
	look better. Natural colors though, as captured when digitizing
	look perfect. When digitizing with DCTV you get to see via the
	monitor exactly how the picture will look (DCTV box feeds live
	video signal from camera straight thru). Then when you click to
	digitize 10 secs later you have the picture, which looks just as
	crisp and clear as the live image you were previewing.

	Thats the reason I picked DCTV over HAM-E, I enjoy digitizing myown
	clip art (for PageStream) and brush maps etc.. (for Imagine).

	Steve.

4787.16HAM-E does animationRIPPLE::LUKE_TETue Jun 11 1991 18:5953
    re. .15
    
      >  I don't think HAM-E is capable of anims, can anyone
      >  confirm?
    
    I was doing a computer show in Montana a while back and the developer
    of HAM-E was there.  Since attendance was very low, I spent a lot of
    time in the HAM-E booth.  He did animations with Deluxe Paint III.  He
    would create the base pictures with HAM-E paint (which seemed very
    powerful) then load it into Deluxe Paint.  When the title bar was
    present at the top of the DP screen, the picture looked like garbage,
    but when he did an F10 and the title bar disappeared, the picture
    looked just like he created it.  He could then cut out and animate
    brushes using DPs move command.  Between that and the DigiView pictures
    he did, I was impressed.  The paint program had a great automatic
    anti-aliasing feature that was very fast on his 68030 Amiga.
    
    There was one gotcha when using no HAM-E paint and animation packages
    but I'm a little fuzzy on it.  It had to do with the last bitplane and
    somehow not performing operations that mess it up.  I'm not sure what
    those operations would be.  Other than that, they claim compatability
    with almost any Amiga paint and animation package.
    
    DCTV doesn't have an animation capability does it? (other than saving
    individually drawn frames and putting them together with the Hash
    Enterprises package.)  I have borrowed a DCTV for the last week or so
    and the docs say that most paint and animation packages, although they
    can load and display them on DCTV fine, once they resave, they loose
    the chunk which makes it a DCTV picture.  It specifically mentions the
    Hash product as being usable to assemble frames into animations.  
    
    As far as digitizing, I'm no expert with Digiview, being a little
    impatient myself, but in many cases, I was able to get superior quality
    from the DCTV digitizer and my camcorder over my Panasonic BW camera
    and Digiview.  The DCTV picture displayed on my composite monitor as
    life-like as the camera image.  Even after converting to HAM, many
    still looked better than I have been able to do with Digiview.  
    
    Digitizing off my VCR in pause mode, however was a different story.  My
    pause isn't as stable as it should be, but I can ususally get a pretty
    good image with Digiview about half the time with the color splitter. 
    With DCTV, it often took more than ten tries to find a stable frame
    that would digitize decent and the bad ones looked really unstable
    compared to bad ones with Digiview.
    
    I haven't had time to play with the paint package with DCTV yet so I
    can't comment.  HAM-E will work with my Supergen genlock according to
    the HAM-E folks (the external Supergen), but DCTV requires an RGB
    add-on to do the same.  I'm still enough confused that I won't be
    buying anything for a while.
    
    Terry
       
4787.17ELWOOD::PETERSWed Jun 12 1991 10:3418
    
    
    re .16
    
    	It seems that DCTV and HAM-E have most of the same features. Both
    products code information in the first scan line or two that allow the
    picture to be decoded. There are several programs that can pack the
    anim files ( Dpaint-III, Hash animation editor, page flipper, and a few
    PD programs ).
    	The big difference is RGB output vs composite and DCTV has the
    added feature of digitizing.
    
    	HAM-E ( high resolution ) and DCTV seem to have the same
    resolution. Maybe we should set-up a side by side comparison to see
    which has the best software and output.
    
    		Steve Peters
    
4787.18Black Belt Systems Strike Back!CRISTA::CAPRICCIOStuck in the H�2�WhoaThu Jun 13 1991 04:27487
    Here's some more fuel for the fire; I found this on Steve (VirusX)
    Tibbetts BBS. This same text is available on CRISTA""::AMIGA: as
    DCTVVSHAME.LZH. While there's no "official" header stating so, the
    disclaimers at the end and references made throughout indicate that
    this doc was created by Black Belt Systems, but I can't vouch for
    it's authenticity or accuracy, etc, etc. Anybody local to their
    BBS care to give them a call at (406) 367-ABBS ?
    
               Differences between the HAM-E and DCTV
               --------------------------------------
                      Updated June 5th, 1991

Due to the massive pre-advertising campaign mounted by Digital
Creations for their DCTV product, many customers begin their questions
to us with, "How does the HAM-E compare to DCTV", or a very similar
phrase.  They want to know why they should buy a HAM-E "instead". This
is a fair question - This short document presents some of our answers.

As you read this, keep in mind that the issues discussed here refer to
the current state of both systems as of the end of May, 1991. We cannot
know in advance what Digital Creations may do that might affect the
information presented here, and so as time moves on this information
may become less accurate.  Similarly, Black Belt will continue to
improve both the HAM-E and it's support software.

Evaluation of the Digital Creations DCTV device has been done from a
production unit purchased by Black Belt Systems from an authorized
Amiga dealer (Leigh's computers, in New York... they also carry the
HAM-E unit, if you're in the region and want to compare the units).

General Information on DCTV marketing questions
===============================================

Black Belt Systems has completely decoded the DCTV image format. This
was done in order to allow us to verify the statements that Digital
Creations has been making in their advertising regarding the
capabilities of the DCTV unit.

Our conclusion is that Digital Creations advertising can be misleading
on the points presented below.

  Direct quotation from Digital Creations ad:
  
      "Display and capture full color 24 bit high resolution images"
  
  Issues:
  
      First, DCTV cannot capture or display images that have color
      information which exists in approximately 75% of the 24 bit image
      space. This limitation is due to the NTSC composite video
      encoding standard. Digital Creations has stated publicly that
      DCTV can only display "about 4 million colors". We believe this
      to be optimistic at best, but even if you take it as the absolute
      truth, what about the other 12 million colors in the 24 bit
      space? Clearly, the marketing statement in the ad implies that
      DCTV can deal with 24 bit images. The question boils down to:
      
      What does "full color 24 bit image" mean?.
      
      You should know as a (potential) DCTV user that it does not mean
      you can capture or display images with 24 bits of brightness/color
      information in them. (Beginning to see why we point the statement
      out?) The DCTV software can save images in 24 bit IFF format; but
      that has no bearing on what is actually contained in the image.
      You can save a 2 color image in a 24 bit file... that doesn't
      make the image itself 24 bits accurate.
  
      Next, DCTV can indeed capture high resolution images in the
      Amiga sense (640 horizontal resolution or thereabouts). However,
      DCTV can only display in low resolution, in the Amiga sense (320
      horizontal resolution or thereabouts), and that only if the image
      is black and white (luma only).
      
      If the image contains color (chroma) information, that color
      information is displayed with less than 1/6th the spatial
      resolution of Amiga "low" resolution (320x200).  DCTV produces
      pixels that are staggered one high-resolution pixel width from
      each other on alternate lines, but the pixels themselves are
      presented at the low resolution rates.
      
      This characteristic of DCTV allows them to produce images with
      diagonal information with better fidelity than a non-staggered
      lo-res display (such as the HAM-E), but it also prevents them
      from displaying a vertical line correctly, which a HAM-E can do
      very well; all vertical lines in a DCTV display contain visible
      jagged edges. To illustrate, DCTV produces low resolution pixels
      in the following manner:
      
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
         - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
         - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
         - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      
      In the above pixel placement diagram for DCTV, each PAIR of scan
      lines provides color information; each individual scan line
      provides luma (brightness) information. We call this inability to
      display a vertical line the "Zipper Effect".
      
      In comparison, the HAM-E produces low resolution pixels in the
      following manner:
      
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      
      In the above pixel placement diagram for the HAM-E, each pixel
      can produce a 24 bit, 18-bit, or a combination of 18 and 24 bit
      accurate color. Each scan line is completely independant of other
      scan lines. Vertical lines are displayable with no "zipper".
        
  Quotation from Digital Creations ad:
  
      "DCTV creates a full color NTSC display with all the color and
       resolution of television"
  
  Issue:
  
      Any properly operating, good quality television can display more
      colors than DCTV can produce, by a huge margin (millions of
      colors) simply because a "real" television signal can contain
      many more luma (brightness) levels than DCTV can produce. Any
      properly operating television can also display images with
      approximately three to four times the spacial resolution of DCTV
      from a digital composite OR an analog source (for instance,
      zippers on vertical lines aren't mandatory in composite digital
      video, nor must pairs of scan lines have colors that are the same
      other than luma content - as witness NewTek's Video Toaster
      output).
      
      Specifically, a television can display different colors derived
      from line-independant chroma signals on each scan line while DCTV
      cannot, and the luma resolution (black and white detail) is much
      higher than DCTV can produce for display purposes.
      
      Clearly, the statement in the ad may mislead the reader if said
      reader is not aware of the many issues that underlie the
      generation of digital composite images from a 7mhz sample rate
      data stream.
  
Output Comparison
=================

HAM-E: RGB output. On the standard Targa Eagle image, you can see
       crisp, clear details in the red flower, and you can see every
       letter of the copyright message clearly - it is perfectly
       readable. The HAM-E's usable resolution is 384 colors and/or
       luma changes per scan line in the basic unit. 482 lines in NTSC
       mode, or 570 lines in PAL mode. These are exact technical
       specifications measurable at the monitor screen, not marketing
       hype. The HAM-E can produce colors anywhere in the 24 bit color
       space, with no exceptions - that's 16 million possible colors.
       
DCTV:  Composite output. On the standard Targa Eagle image most
       of the red flower's petals are blurry or invisible; the colors
       "bleed" off of the right edge of the flower and don't start soon
       enough at the left edge of the flower. The copyright date is
       indistinguishable on our production model DCTV. We *estimate*
       DCTV's usable display resolution to be approximately 125 chroma
       changes per PAIR of scan lines and about 300 luma (brightness)
       changes per scan line. DCTV can produce 482 scan lines in NTSC,
       but has no PAL mode. Fact: DCTV is neither 768 pixels per line
       "sharp" nor 24 bit color accurate when measured at the monitor
       screen.
       
       For the record, Digital Creations representatives are currently
       claiming output color capability of "about 4 million" colors.
       
       DCTV image output specifications which Digital Creations has not
       published, but which have been carefully verified at Black Belt
       Systems, and presented to the Digital Creations representatives
       on the "BIX" telecommunications network without any rebuttal:
       
           Horizontal Luma Resolution: 320
              Chroma Changes per line: 80:80 (80 for R-y, 80 for B-y)
           Max color changes per line: 160 (not including luma changes)
             Vertical Luma resolution: Same as number of lines in image
           Vertical Chroma resolution: Half that of number of lines in image
          Pixel offsets between lines: 70 ns. (1 hires pixel)
       
Display Mixing Comparison
=========================

HAM-E: Shows it's images on your RGB monitor, allowing the use of
       mixed-mode slide shows (normal Amiga screens like hi-res and
       HAM) mixed with HAM-E mode screens) in AmigaVision, etc. HAM-E
       screens behave just as you'd expect by going up and down, front
       to back, etc. HAM-E screens "fit in" to your system seamlessly
       in this respect.

DCTV:  Images require the use of a separate composite monitor or
       separate composite input. DCTV images cannot be mixed with
       standard Amiga images, so you can see either DCTV or Amiga
       graphics, but not both. If Amiga-M is pressed, for instance,
       your screen goes black. No mixed mode slideshows, and no use of
       Amiga screens as control panels or other utilites, such as file
       requesters.

Image Digitizization Comparison
===============================

HAM-E: Uses sharp RGB digitizer "DigiView" by NewTek directly, resulting
       in excellent RGB images. No extra costs for building in a
       feature many Amiga owners already have. Cost of the basic HAM-E
       plus DigiView is still less than the DCTV retail price. DigiView
       requires only an inexpensive B&W camera; can digitize from a
       color camera or high-quality still VCR with inexpensive
       "splitter" accessory. System consisting of HAM-E + splitter +
       DigiView + B&W camera, all new, costs far less than DCTV + color
       camera, also all new.

DCTV:  Uses built-in composite digitizer. Blurry results as compared to
       RGB digitizing. Duplication of equipment for anyone who already
       owns DigiView. Images are not capable of as good a reproduction
       quality as DigiView. Will digitize composite color images when
       frames are frozen (possible only on top of the line VCR's and
       color cameras).

Digiview note:
==============
        
        Digiview internally codes images in 21 bits of RGB data. Images
        you may have seen on a normal Amiga display do not allow you to
        see all of this detailed information. For this reason, many
        people have gotten the mistaken impression that Digiview cannot
        produce images of comparable quality to DCTV. This is
        incorrect. Digiview produces RGB accurate pixels at a spacial
        resolution equal to the DCTV digitizers composite pixel
        samples, and at twice the spacial resolution of the DCTV
        display hardware. Digiview's color accuracy is much higher than
        the DCTV digitizer, on the order of 3 to 4 times. For instance,
        Digiview will digitize a blue line one pixel wide next to a red
        line one pixel wide with no errors. DCTV will produce a purple
        blur with the same input image.

Technical Development Support Comparison
========================================

HAM-E: Open technical support. Anyone can develop software to work with
       the HAM-E. We provide source code, autodocs, technical
       assistance, etc on our public BBS at (406) 367-ABBS. This
       results in high-quality support from other manufacturers, and
       means that our customers have more options. We not only provide
       source code, but we provide libraries with unmatched
       functionality; blitted bob support, color cycling, image save,
       image encode, image decode, font support, color-font support,
       scrolling, line draw, ellipse draw, and more.

DCTV:  Closed technical support. The DCTV image format is held secret
       by digital creations. This means that it is difficult or
       impossible for third party-organizations to create support or
       add-on software. This will adversely affect the Digital
       Creations customer. There is a "DCTV Library", but currently it
       only provides image encoding functions.

Hardware and Software Product Support from manufacturer Comparison
==================================================================

HAM-E: Current support from Black Belt includes:

     * highly advanced 256 color paint system including ARexx, Macros,
       ColorFonts, powerful animation, UnDo, User-definable key
       remapping, loading of 35 "alien" image formats including DKB,
       DBW, GIF, Targa, and almost any possible IFF image, direct save
       of 24 bit, GIF and HAM-E mode images, "live" blitted brushes
       made from arbitrary clipped regions, as well as all standard
       paint features.  
     
     * 24 bit paint capability with 24 bit ranges with up to
       256 control points; painting with 24 bit clips or solid brushes;
       multi-dimensional transparency controls; 9 fill modes; undo;
       redo; HSV, HSL, RGB and CMY palette controls; brushes that allow
       std painting, "wetting" painting, "drying" painting, range
       painting; and more.
     
     * We provide the best image processing software available on the
       Amiga, with well over 200 functions.  Higher spatial resolution
       hardware upgrades for the HAM-E itself are also available from
       us.
     
     * Write IFF 24, viewable HAM-E files, and GIF 256 color images. Read
       GIF, Targa, standard IFF (2-32 color, 1/2 brite, HAM), IFF 24,
       IFF 24 + CLUT, IFF 21, IFF 18, IFF 15, IFF 12, IFF 9, IFF 8, DKB
       trace, DBW render, RGB8, RGBN, RGB raw, QRT Trace, ARZ0, ARZ1,
       SHAM, Dynamic HiRes, AHAM, 8 bit IFF images. Many of these file
       types have multiple variants; we have made a concerted effort to
       support these additional format permutations.
     
     * Software that allows use of DigiView 4.0 directly is part of
       the 24 bit painting and image processing system.
     
     * 2 Libraries that allows reading and writing of HAM-E images,
       direct support for fonts, ColorFonts, blitted brushes, scrolling,
       read color register, write color register, draw line, draw
       (filled/unfilled) ellipse, draw (filled/unfilled) rectangle,
       color cycling, and complete "BOB" (Blitter object) handling
       facilities. Ability to render HAM-E images in multiple modes
       from 24 bit source buffers.
     
     * Over 400k of on-disk documentation describes every aspect of the
       HAM-E system's operation, and a small printed manual describes
       the hardware and it's installation. A printed manual that
       describes the software will be supplied to all HAM-E owners who
       have registered their HAM-E units with us some time this summer
       (July-August release time frame is planned) at no charge.

DCTV:  Current support from Digital Creations includes:

     * Very nice composite paint software that has most standard paint
       functions, but not all.  DCTV paint does not include Undo, Color
       Fonts, ARexx, Macros, Animation capability, ability to load
       alien file formats, and will not "blit" brushes - you are forced
       to move an outline of a "clipped" region, let go, and then
       "tack" it down.  You can't draw with clipped areas, and so they
       are not "brushes" in the usual Amiga sense.
       
     * A minimal set of image processing tools, 9 functions which are
       simple global brightness, color, and tint type controls.
       
     * Write 24 bit IFF, "raw" files, or viewable DCTV images. Read IFF,
       DCTV raw files, and viewable DCTV images.
     
     * Digitizer control software is also included.
     
     * 1 Library that allows developers to write DCTV images from a 24
       bit source, no other capabilities.
     
     * Extremely well-written manual describes the operation of
       the entire DCTV system.

Comparison Of Additional Support From Other Vendors
===================================================

HAM-E: Commercial paint software, the "HAM-E WorkShop" from Holosoft
       Technologies. ASDG's "The Art Department Professional", AKA
       "TADPro"; PD DKB Render; Progressive Peripherals "3-d
       Professional" ray tracer; PD "HAMLab"; Several PD viewers which
       not only support the display of HAM-E images but also support
       color cycling them.
       
       Other software, including 256 color games, is currently under
       development with other vendors. Oxxi's "Spectracolor" is in the
       process of being incarnated in a full HAM-E version - early
       images from this splendid paint program are stunning! Oxxi indicates
       that a release date of July 15th, 1991 is planned. PD tools
       such as DBW Render and "Vapor Paint" are working on direct
       support as well.

DCTV:  Support in 3-d professional.

       No other support software from other vendors. None is known to be
       pending, and none is likely to appear without special co-
       operation from Digital Creations, except for render output using
       the "DCTV library".

Genlocking
==========
The HAM-E hardware has full support for genlocking. Current production
units work very well with Digital Creations own "Supergen" genlock
(the external model only, of course). Genlock operation of the HAM-E
does require the purchase of a specially constructed low-noise video
cable.  The cost of this cable is $30.00 US, and is available from
either Black Belt Systems or directly from Redmond cable.

DCTV cannot genlock at present. Digital Creations has announced plans
to release an extra cost adaptor which will allow genlocking, but price
and availability are both unknown at this time.

Video connector Pass-thru
=========================
Current Production models of the HAM-E pass thru all 23 pins of the
Amiga's output video jack. Other video devices should work 100% with
the output from the HAM-E's passthru. For instance, DCTV works when
attached to the output of the HAM-E.

DCTV does not pass thru the IRGB lines (actually, they place other
signals that are unique to DCTV on these pins which are intended for
the genlock adaptor). This means that other video devices may not work
when plugged into DCTV's passthru. For instance, the HAM-E cannot
operate correctly when plugged into the output off DCTV.

Display Mode(s) Comparison
==========================

HAM-E: Both "real-color" and 256 out of 16 million color modes. Full 256
       grey scale capability. Direct image access via paint, BASIC "fd"
       files, ARexx, C, assembly language, etc. Final image on screen
       in real color mode is a mixed 18/24 bit image that generally
       achieves full 24-bit accuracy to the eye. Final image on screen
       in 256 color mode is completely 24 bit accurate. In real color
       modes, the HAM-E can present a different color for every pixel
       in an image.

DCTV:  Only "real-color" mode. Limited grey scale (160 grey levels),
       and your only direct access to DCTV's images is via their paint
       software. No read capability in a library, no "fd" files, no
       source code, no hints, no nothing.  Final image on screen is a
       composite image that achieves somewhere in the region of 20 to
       21 bit accuracy to the eye, and a spacial resolution far below
       Amiga "lo-res". DCTV can present a different color for every
       pixel in an image.

Global System Compatibility Comparison
======================================

HAM-E: Works on NTSC and PAL (European) machines. This means that the
       HAM-E can "get into" the European market - where most Amigas are
       located. This means a larger number of HAM-E systems are likely
       to be sold, and that, combined with our open technical support,
       means that you as a user will benefit directly.

DCTV:  Does not work on PAL machines. The market for DCTV is the (much
       smaller) installed base of NTSC machines.

Price, Warranty, Upgrade Comparisons
====================================

HAM-E: $299.95 retail for the unit discussed here. $429.95 retail for a
       specially-equipped unit with the same features, and additional
       custom real-time image processing hardware which produces a
       high resolution rate pixel output by synthesizing new pixels in
       between the original low resolution pixels.  Warranty is 3 full
       years from the original purchase date, both parts and labor,
       fully transferable. Our original warranty was not this long, but
       when the change was made it applied retroactively to all HAM-E
       units sold. The HAM-E unit is not sealed - you can look inside
       and "adjust" things. We can provide a technical adjustment guide
       for those who are inclined to hack and meddle.  We also have a
       "hacker's hints" guide on our BBS for those who are interested
       in fine-tuning the hardware. When these changes are done
       according to the guide, the warranty on the unit remains valid.
       Software upgrades are free via our BBS, CIS, and Plink, or for a
       nominal charge on disk via UPS.

DCTV:  $499.95 retail. 90 day warranty, parts and labor. The DCTV box
       is sealed, and the units warranty is void if you open it. This
       information is taken from the provided DCTV manual.


Our Conclusions:
================
We truly believe that Black Belt Systems is offering a superior display
product in the sense that it can provide a better image, which is well
integrated into the Amiga's hardware and software. 

We also believe that we provide superior support for the customer, and
we think this is borne out by the amount of new software, upgrades, and
general aftermarket activity that has appeared surrounding the HAM-E
since it's release in 1990.

If you have any doubts at all, we suggest that you locate a dealer that
has both units in stock and get a demonstration of both items. If the
dealer is unfamiliar with either DCTV's software or the HAM-E software,
you cannot expect a proper demo; in that case, look at the quality of
the images.

Trademarks and other Legal Esoterica
====================================

HAM-E is a trademark of Black Belt Systems. DCTV is a trademark of
Digital Creations Inc. TADPro and The Art Department Professional are
trademarks of ASDG Inc. Amiga and AmigaVision are trademarks of
Commodore Business Machines Inc. DigiView is a trademark of NewTek Inc.
Video Toaster is a trademark of NewTek Inc.  HAM-E Workshop is a
trademark of Holosoft Techologies. "Eagle" image copyright TrueVision
Inc. ARexx is a trademark of William Hawes and Wishful Thinking.
SpectraColor is a trademark of Oxxi, Inc. GIF is a trademark of
Compuserve Information Services. 3-d Professional is a trademark of
Progressive Peripherals.

Errata
======
Black Belt Systems has made every effort to make the information in
this document accurate. If you discover inaccuracies, please contact
Black Belt Systems so that we can correct the problem ASAP. We have no
interest in providing deceptive information - we'll leave that to our
competitors, who seem to be quite good at it.

Disclaimer
==========
Black Belt Systems is not associated with ASDG or Holosoft Technologies
in any financial or legal manner. We co-operate with these companies as
we feel this best serves the interests of the HAM-E customer.
4787.19new gadget --- COLORBURSTDECAUX::VNATIM::HELMUTI can C clearly now, my brain is goneMon Jul 01 1991 05:4427
	Hi,

	I've read of a new device from Down Under called Colorburst.
	It is a true 24bit framebuffer with 1.5Meg V-RAM, hardware
	stencils and some paint software. Output is similar to HAM-E.
	It's also plugged between RGB-socket of the Amy and the monitor.

	They say that this thingie is already a big hit Down Under
	and they have the same support as Black-Belt for their HAM-E.
	They fully support developers and claim that also Commodore is
	interested in this product.
	They even ship the whole source code of the paint program with
	the box.

	Animation is possible.

	Price is similar to HAM-E, at least in Germany.

	Does anyone have own expieriences with this product ?
	Or at least has anyone seen it demoed ?

	Cheerio
	hELMUT

	P.S.: seems to be a lot going on in the low-end segment of 
	      true-color boards for Amy.