Conference hydra::amiga_v1

>        <<< Note 4607.0 by TLE::TLET8::ASHFORTH "The Lord is my light" >>>
>                              -< FFS for floppies? >-
> 
> Yo folks- I need to locate a good PD utility which reads FFS-formatted floppies
> under AmigaDOS 1.3. Yeah, I know, it's probably *somewhere* in the Fish disks,
> but I'd really like to find it before I go home tonight! Anyone know the
> whereabouts of the latest and greatest in this department?
> 
> Cheers,
> 	Bob
> 


	DFS::AMIGA:FFSFLOPPY.ZOO

john

    The Amiga World Tech Journal has a nice article this.
    	pg32	The Fast Floppy System by Betty clay.
    The article does a good job of discribing the differences between the
    FFS, and the old file system, and how the system deals with both.
    							bill 

    
    Re .3
    
    Bill,
    
    As an aside,  what's your opinion of the "technical journal" so far?
    I'd thought about subscribing but hadn't done so as yet.  Can you say
    anything general about the content or format?
    
    Thanks
    Frank
    
    

Thanks, folks. Of course, as soon as I got the FFS-floppy utility, I didn't need
it- I received a new disk with standard AmigaDOS format.

The item in question is an alpha test of the new SAS C++ compiler, based on the
AT&T 2.0 standard. Note that this *is* a compiler, not just a preprocessor. Its
first step is, however, to translate C++ into C.

If anyone has any "pet" C++ programs they'd like to contribute to the testing
effort, please send them to me at TLE::TLET8::ASHFORTH. I'll post anything
interesting as I find it.

Cheers,
	Bob

    RE .4
    	I got the disk as a present,from a friend who picked it up at the
    NY show. The journal looks very much like the tech journal Microsoft 
    puts out. it has 48 pages, 10 articles, 5 columns,and four reviews. 
    	The content is of course geared for the programmer types. I
    dont have time to write a review. I will say That I liked the article
    on the FFS,and the Graphics handler column had a nice ditty on the
    deep bitmap standard written by the folks from ASDG. The reviews proved
    to be usless to me CygnusED,Macro68,and Algebra,The QPMA Basic
    programmers toolkit,and Flexelint. I guess it was because I had no
    intrest in the products,and They were all that comprehensive. Much like
    the reviews in Amiga World. The disk has DICE, and a powerWindows 2.5c
    demo, along with source,and executable code for articles. No hardware
    hack to be seen. If they were both on the shelf,and I could only get
    one I'd opt for the Amazing tech first.
    							bill

Re: .7

>The item in question is an alpha test of the new SAS C++ compiler, based on the
>AT&T 2.0 standard. Note that this *is* a compiler, not just a preprocessor. Its
>first step is, however, to translate C++ into C.

Actually, in C++ lingo, it is just a preprocessor not a true compiler.

All of the AT&T C++ translators have been compilers that took C++ input
and converted it to C.  This process is far from trivial, and requires
all of the power of a real compiler.

However, because it produces C, people have erroneously called it a
preprocessor.  We C++ programmers talk about true compilers they
mean C++ compilers that output assembly language or object files.  When
they talk about C++ preprocessors (like the AT&T cfront product)
they mean C++ compilers that output C code.

The problem with the "C++ preprocessors" is that they are very slow.
One of the places where compilers spend most of their time is scanning
the characters in the source program and converting them to tokens
(e.g., identifiers, strings, operators).  The preprocessor approach
automatically doubles that time.

Re .7:

Yes, that's the point I was trying to make. This product does have an advantage
over the "C++ preprocessor plus C compiler" combos, but isn't "optimal" in the
sense that it interpolates "c" source instead of going direct to machine code.
That's why I mentioned the "extra step." However, the folks at Lattice view this
as the *very* first cut along the way to the "real" product, so don't give up
hope just yet.

Bob

    To come back to FFS, What are FF0 & FF1 etc...
    I guess they are floppy disk using the FFS system, so you could I mount
    them. And can I use them as normal floppy disk ? Any help is welcome.
    Could also somebody, post an example of the mountlist, with the FFS
    installed.
    
    					Cheers,
    						Erik