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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

4589.0. "GVP Series II Card" by CHANI::SUMNER () Thu Mar 14 1991 09:16

    Is the GVP Series II card better than the Supra 2000 memory board, and
    if it is, why?
    
    Thanks,
    ~Ray
    
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4589.1SCSI + RAM <-> RAMCRISTA::CAPRICCIOBlind as a cave shrimpFri Mar 15 1991 12:2911
�    Is the GVP Series II card better than the Supra 2000 memory board, and
�    if it is, why?

    I'm not sure if that is a fair comparison since the GVP is a SCSI
    controller/RAM expansion card and the Supra is RAM expansion only.

    Otherwise, the Supra may be cheaper (even a 2MB populated one), but the
    GVP would save a slot and it seems that the SIMM prices have dropped
    quite a bit.

    Pete
4589.2KAHUNA::SUMNERFri Mar 15 1991 12:4212
    So the difference is that it's a SCSI controller also, that I did'nt
    know.  I already have a 40Meg HD with controller so I don't need that
    board ... I called the dealer (Amiga) and he said the Supra 2000 were
    "noisy" but couldn't support his claim.  He pushed the Aries board ...
    he carried both boards, and prices were close ... Reading some older
    notes seem to praise the Supra 2000.  Do you know anything about the
    Aries Ram Expansion board or heard about any problems with the Supra 
    2000?
    
    Thanks,
    ~Ray
           
4589.3GVP seems to be rock solid & "REAL DMA"ULTRA::BURGESSMad Man across the waterFri Mar 15 1991 14:1421
re .0

	I think the principle difference is that the GVP card is  
"true DMA"  (-:    whereas the Supra card is  ....errrr,  "NOT".

	I have been beating on my GVP card with Disk speed (FF329, I
think) using an RZ 23 while trying to run anything and everything else
imaginable - including bad block re-map from the GVP install disk.  It
seems to be what it claims to be, i.e. "REAL DMA",  I just can't slow
it down significantly.  About the only thing that will slow the hard
disc light down to a blink is having a dozen or so windows open at
once and continuously clicking the front one to the back.  Even this
only seems to reduce the frequency of access, not the data transfer
rates.  The only way to get  "bad"  results from Disk Speed seems to
be to run eight copies, one on each partition - but what should I
expect (-:   I actually get more total bytes per second transferred 
than when I run one copy - no great surprise.  I don't have a Supra 
card to compare it to, I might post numbers for comparison.

	Reg

4589.4There is a RAM-only GVP productBOMBE::MOOREAmiga: Where &#039;multimedia&#039; REALLY beganFri Mar 15 1991 16:433
    The GVP ad shows three "Series II" products.  One is RAM only, 2MB
    expandable to 8MB via SIMMs.  There is also a SCSI only card, and
    the RAM + SCSI combination referred to in .1...
4589.5service countsSALEM::LEIMBERGERMon Mar 18 1991 05:585
    I don't own the GVP ram card,but do own their disk controller. When I
    had a problem with my 2058 memory board GVP sent me an upgraded set of
    pals overnight,no charge. I also have to say that their phone support
    is excellent.
    							bill
4589.6I just can't keep up with all of GVP's new products!CRISTA::CAPRICCIOBlind as a cave shrimpMon Mar 18 1991 22:1614
�    The GVP ad shows three "Series II" products.  One is RAM only, 2MB
�    expandable to 8MB via SIMMs.  There is also a SCSI only card, and
�    the RAM + SCSI combination referred to in .1...

    Oops...sorry 'bout that. I should have read GVP's ad in the the latest
    Amiga World before opening my big mouth.

    Anyways, I guess the DIPs vs. SIMMs argument still holds. If I were in
    the market (I've got an A2091), I'd be seriously considering the newer
    technology of the GVP and spend the extra cash for the SCSI+RAM and
    save a slot in the process. Then again, being a true cheapskate at
    heart, the new reduced price of the Supra is hard to resist...

    Pete (just here to cloud the issue)