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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

4585.0. "NEW14ACCEL.LZH" by CSSE32::SMITH (Reality, just a visible imagination?) Tue Mar 12 1991 09:18

I just uploaded a different 14mhz accel project to tape (see note 4217.78).

Can someone who attempted the other project (which never worked I presume) have
a look at this one and see if it has any circuit differences that may resolve
the problems.


...Ed
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4585.1Can't wait...MQOFS::LEDOUXReserved for Future UseWed Mar 13 1991 11:407
    Hi Ed,
    
    When I get I'll surely give it a try,  I'll be back early April.
    
    I'll let you know.
    
    Vince.
4585.2This ACCEL looks better!CSSE32::SMITHReality, just a visible imagination?Wed Mar 13 1991 17:526
A quick look at this circuit and the other circuit shows that it looks like this
one stands a chance of working.  It's handling many other signals and not just 
simply doubling the clock.


...Ed
4585.3exit SALEM::LEIMBERGERMon Mar 18 1991 06:037
    I have the old CMI 14mhz installed in my 2000. Looking at the board I
    see several pals,and of course(an empty) socket for the math chip. I
    assume the pals are what allows it to switch between 7, and 14 on the
    fly. i should download this project to see how it handles this. It's
    funny how the CMI product never made it, I seem to have no problems
    with it at all. Of course I haven't tried my supergen with it yet.
    							bill
4585.4CMI business probs?TLE::TLET8::ASHFORTHThe Lord is my lightMon Mar 18 1991 09:3415
Re .3:

Noticed your reference to CMI; I have a CMI midi interface, and when I received
it (mail order) the first thing I noticed was that the company's products had
been picked up by a new company (can't recall it right now). Seems like CMI went
under.

I needed some info on the synch signal sent out by the MIDI box, and got very
little help- the new company has *noone* in-house to answer tech questions, but
referred me to the home phone of a tech they occasionally use for such stuff.
Of course, the MIDI box may be an exception, but I do hope that you manage to
get support if/when you need it on the accelerator card.

Cheers,
	Bob
4585.5BOMBE::MOOREAmiga: Where 'multimedia' REALLY beganMon Mar 18 1991 14:423
    The CMI processor accelerator specifically had a problem with DMA
    operations.  True DMA hard disk controllers don't work with the CMI
    accelerator installed.
4585.6going blindlySALEM::LEIMBERGERTue Mar 19 1991 06:3122
    re .5
    	I can assume then that the GVP card is not a true DMA controller.
    It still does a great job though. I plan to pick up the math chip
    this week,and that will have to do me until I can afford an 030.
    I wasen't really planning on this but I saw it on the shelf,and took a 
    gamble. So far I have tried many software packages, and my jx-100. I
    haven't tried the supergen 2000s yet. maybe this weekend! 
    	I tend to get confused with what controllers do what,and how. I do
    know the GVP (FastRomm update) performs well for me, and the CMI 
    PA seems to help screen refresh a little. I looked at the plans for the
    unit on the net,and felt I'd rather risk the $125.00 than attempt to
    install the hack. I am fairly competent, but when it comes to the amiga
    I don't like to mess around. I try to avoid opening it up as much as 
    possible. i will install the math coprocessor, and then start looking
    for more memory for the 2058 card. If I run into problems i'll trash
    the CMI PA, and wait for an 030. My thought was the cost of the CMI
    device was less than the time I'd spend modifying AMY, and much easier
    to undo when the time comes. I bought this well knowing that I'd be
    doing major changes in the future. OS 2.0, extended chip set, dual boot
    card etc.
    							bill
    
4585.7had planned to go it aloneSALEM::LEIMBERGERTue Mar 19 1991 06:5917
    re .4
    	Bob,
    	I bought the PA knowing that CMI had bellied up. I did not know
    anybody had picked up any of their stuff. It is interesting to note
    the performance gain I have so far, without the math chip. I don't
    really know if It is there or a state of mind.(wishfull thinking).
    I do know I don't see enougn of a gain to support installing the 
    hardware project if this is all it buys you. I believe the "Fast Rom"
    mode accounts for most of the performance gain I do see. Does the 
    Hardware Project offer this ?  I had planned on going it alone in
    the respect of support, but already have gained insight on this little
    adventure from the net. I had planned on replying to the original CMI
    note but felt the discussion here was not to off base. I do believe
    many of the programs on the PA disk are PD, but they are probably
    already available here. if not I could upload the PD ones for those
    doing the Hardware hack.
    							bill 
4585.8DigiFeXSALEM::LEIMBERGERThu Mar 21 1991 05:227
    The PA is now the product of
    
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