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| 4516.1 | Oh goodie - another chance to ... | MADRE::MWM | | Thu Feb 14 1991 15:08 | 26 |
| First, I disagree about two floppies not being usefull with an HD. First, it
makes copying floppies much easier. Second, if you've got a good backup
program (e.g. ExpressCopy), it'll put up a requester to change one floppy
while writing to the second, thus running the slowest part of the backup
process asynch.
Anyway:
1) The one thing you can't get on a 2000 is a 32 bit path to CHIP ram.
For some things, this is important (I'm beta testing one that A3000
owners will _love_), for others, it doesn't matter.
2) If you're not serious about video work and have a 3000, you should go
ahead and buy at least a VGA monitor. The cost difference isn't that
large, and the solid display is well worth it. If you later decide to do
video work, you can still get NTSC video off the RGB port.
3) Last time I checked, CBM had not released a bridgeboard for the 3000.
The stated reason was that the '030 cache and the bridgeboard memory
interface didn't work well together. If space isn't a problem, I'd go
to a second system. After all, it's cheaper; Fry's is advertising 386
systems for under $400.
<mike
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| 4516.2 | Can't BRIDGE a 3000? | SDOGUS::WILLIAMS | TOPGUN | Thu Feb 14 1991 15:52 | 2 |
| My A3000 and 286 bridgeboard work fine.
TOPGUN
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| 4516.3 | FlixerFixer + Genlock | TLE::RMEYERS | Randy Meyers | Thu Feb 14 1991 17:17 | 29 |
| Re: .0
> For enhanced video, though, I was thinking about getting a
> multisync monitor. With a 2000, I would have to get some kind
> of video enhancement board in order to take advantage of the
> features, though. This means that the video slot is occupied
> and unavailable for a genlock. This is not too much of a hardship,
> as I never really used the genlock.
One change coming for the 2000 is that it is going to get the Enhanced
Chip Set version of the display chip. With will enable the 2000 to
output a 400 line non-interlaced display in a new video mode. The
drawbacks are the new mode has a severe limit on number of colors
that are displayed, the size of the palette that you can choose colors
from, and the amount of chip-memory related cycle stealing. To use
this new mode, you need a multisync monitor (or a VCG monitor if you
don't care about using any of the old Amiga modes).
A Microway FlickerFixer doesn't preclude using an internal genlock anymore.
You need in addition to the FlickerFixer a daughter board that allows
the FlickerFixer to work with a genlock (internal or external). Then
so you can use it with an internal genlock, you need the DEB card
from Microway that, in effect, converts a normal expansion slot into
a second video slot that the FlickerFixer can use.
I suspect that the new Commodore de-interlace board doesn't need any
special daughter board so that it can co-exist with a genlock. However,
I don't know if it can plug into a DEB board so that you can free up
the real video slot.
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| 4516.4 | One more hat in the ring... | TLE::TLET8::ASHFORTH | The Lord is my light | Fri Feb 15 1991 08:05 | 12 |
| FWIW, I have no doubts, myself: in your situation I would get a 3000UX. But, it
depends on what you want out of it. For me, the opportunity to have not only an
Amiga, but a standard "System V" Unix box at home would be a major plus, not to
mention the advantage of a true 32-bit architecture. As a 1000 owner who took
the upgrade to the 2000 (HD), I also think the opportunity to get back on the
bandwagon at the "latest and greatest" level shouldn't be passed up. Of course,
there's the matter of "total bucks" as an aatribute of a system, too- anyway,
good luck on your cogitations and contemplations.
Cheers,
Bob
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| 4516.5 | FlickerFixer & A2000A
| DECAUX::VNATIM::HELMUT | She's always a VAX to me | Fri Feb 15 1991 11:38 | 25 |
| Re: .3
> A Microway FlickerFixer doesn't preclude using an internal genlock anymore.
> You need in addition to the FlickerFixer a daughter board that allows
> the FlickerFixer to work with a genlock (internal or external). Then
> so you can use it with an internal genlock, you need the DEB card
> from Microway that, in effect, converts a normal expansion slot into
> a second video slot that the FlickerFixer can use.
Is this DEB card also compatible with the old motherboard with the
short videoslot. The short slot prohibits using the Microway FlickerFixer
and this card would allow using that card in my old Amy.
If it's possible I would be interested in price and where I can get it
from.
______________
\ /
\ Thanks /
|-\ Helmut /
|__\ Hg /
\____/
N.B.: Is there any possibility to get a new motherboard at a reasonable price ?
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| 4516.6 | Motherboard Exchange | TLE::RMEYERS | Randy Meyers | Fri Feb 15 1991 13:14 | 28 |
| Re: .5
> Is this DEB card also compatible with the old motherboard with the
> short videoslot.
I don't know if it is compatible with the old "A2000" motherboards.
>Is there any possibility to get a new motherboard at a reasonable price ?
It depends on what you think is reasonable. Commodore does have a
motherboard exchange program. When I last asked my dealer about it
I believe the terms were that Commodore would exchange any version
of the motherboard for the latest version of the motherboard for
US $500 (or was it $300?).
I have a minor problem with by parallel port: it works fine for
output and only partially works for input. Thus, I can not use
a DigiView at all, but I can use a Perfect Sound if I digitize
only the left sound channel but not the right. My dealer checked
over my system and found replacing all of the chips involved had
no effect. Commodore recommended that he replace the motherboard.
Since the Amiga was out of warranty, I elected not to go this route.
However, I plan on re-thinking this decision when Commodore starts
shipping Amiga 2000s with the enhanced chip set and 2.0 in ROM. If
I do a motherboard exchange for that version of the motherboard, then
I'll be getting the new chips "for free."
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| 4516.7 | | ELWOOD::PETERS | | Fri Feb 15 1991 13:35 | 5 |
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I just looked into a mother board swap. The cost was about
$650.
Steve Peters
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| 4516.8 | If your going to replace motherboard...wait for 2.0 | CHAKRA::ROBERT | For more info, call: 800/555-1212 | Mon Feb 18 1991 17:14 | 5 |
| If you have an old 2000 motherboard, you would want to wait for one
with 2.0 rom and the enhanced chip set on it. The chips alone for 2.0
should cost between $250 & $350 (Especially if you need the 1 MEG Agnus).
-----Robert
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| 4516.9 | Haven't made up my mind, but getting closer | CX3PST::WSC160::D_WHITE | I'm patient if it doens't take very long | Tue Feb 19 1991 15:25 | 25 |
| Thank you for all of your responses.
re .1 I think you misunderstood me. I didn't say that a second floppy
drive was not useful; I found plenty of uses for it and sometimes
wished I had a 3rd drive. Hard drive backups were definitely
one of those times. When I started with my 1000, I only had the
internal drive. Adding the second floppy made life much easier,
and was a pretty reasonable alternative to spending nearly as
much for a hard drive and controller as I did for the original
system. The prices of drives and controllers have come down
considerably AND the technology has improved vastly over what
was available 5 years ago when I got my first system. If I
absolutely HAD to, I could live with a hard drive and only one
floppy drive.
re .3 Thanks for the technical insight, Randy. This is exactly the
sort of thing that I was looking for.
Of course, whatever I decide to do will depend on what kind of settle-
ment I get from my insurance company. Also, availability and price
will play a role in my decision. Overall, though, I find that I am
not quite as anxious to be on the "bleeding edge of technology" as I
was 5 years ago, so I am leaning toward getting a replacement 2000.
Dave
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