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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

4409.0. "Wanted: Working Vt200 emulator" by VIVIAN::D_VISTUER () Mon Jan 07 1991 19:32

    I am after a Vt2xx emulator that can display sixel graphics. I know
    there is a variety of flavours available. However, the one I really
    want is Smokey. I believe this suits my needs.
    The archived file for this is (I believe) VT200.arc. It seems that
    all the copies available are corrupt and on doing 'arc v vt200' I
    consistently get 'bad header problems'.
    So, can anyone tell me where I can find a good working copy ?.
    
    Thanks in advance
    
    Dave.
    
    P.S. A vt3xx emulator would be better.
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4409.1Archive okay; VMSARC's picky about file formatCRISTA::CAPRICCIOBlind as a cave shrimpMon Jan 07 1991 23:5727
>    The archived file for this is (I believe) VT200.arc. It seems that
>    all the copies available are corrupt and on doing 'arc v vt200' I
>    consistently get 'bad header problems'.

    It is VT200.ARC *but* it is not corrupt.  You can verify this with
    the test switch ("arc t"). Assuming you are doing the "arc v" on the
    VAX end, the file format needs to be stream_LF whereas it's probably
    variable length or fixed length.  CVTARC (among others) allows
    conversion from one format to another. Ie:

        Usage: CVTARC {uv} <from file> <to file>      
        Where:   u   = convert to STREAM_LF           
                 v   = convert to fixed length records

    This has been discussed at great length throughout this conference...

>    So, can anyone tell me where I can find a good working copy ?.

    At any of the popular locations (TAPE, WJG, etc.), and the obscure
    ones like CRISTA""::AMIGA: which has it in both formats; VT200.ARC
    (variable length) and VT200.SLF (stream_LF). They both work, I promise!
    
>    P.S. A vt3xx emulator would be better.

    Let us know when you find one... ;^)

    Pete
4409.2think it through...NAC::BRANNONvalue addedTue Jan 08 1991 19:4316
    SIXEL is a feature of VT240 or VT340 terminals.
    VT220, VT320, and VT420 terminals don't do SIXEL.
    
    Keep in mind that for SIXEL a VT240 offers 800x250x4colors
    and a VT340 has 800x500x16colors screen resolutions.
    
    I have yet to see SIXEL or ReGIS implemented in any of the Amiga terminal
    emulators.  And even on an IBM PC, it wasn't until 800x600 displays
    appeared that reasonable SIXEL or ReGIS could be done.  Scrolling
    around inside a larger virtual screen is the pits.
    
    A flickering 640x400 display as a maximum resolution for most Amigas
    may be one of the reasons why this hasn't been done yet.  
    
    regards,
    dennis
4409.3Smokey Lives!CRISTA::CAPRICCIOBlind as a cave shrimpTue Jan 08 1991 22:0117
>    SIXEL is a feature of VT240 or VT340 terminals.

    Don't forget the VT330 and the VT125... 8*)

>    I have yet to see SIXEL or ReGIS implemented in any of the Amiga terminal
>    emulators.  And even on an IBM PC, it wasn't until 800x600 displays

    Smokey *can* display SIXEL files, however it's limited to a "4-tone
    grayscale", if you will. From the docs:

	If you want to display sixel files, then it is best to have a depth
of 3.  If you use less then 3, the sixels will only be in one color.  The
default colors for sixels are black, 1/3 white, 2/3 white, and full white.
If you aren't going to be using sixels, then make sure your depth is 2 or 1
to improve emulator performance.

    Pete (occasional Smokey user; most accurate VT emulation IMHO)
4409.4Reflection 4+ (only for IBM Comp. :'( )SHARE::DOYLEWed Jan 09 1991 07:539
     Here at work I have a 25mhz 325c running "Reflection 4+" (over an
    ether(sp?) net).
     This emulates 240,241,330,340 as well as Tektronix (4014?).
     It's response on the net is even faster than the 340's I've used,
     and makes using things like decslide and decgraph enjoyable.
     I only wish my Ami could emulate the 340.
     		
    								ED
    
4409.5Reflection reflectionTLE::TLET8::ASHFORTHWed Jan 09 1991 08:2817
I too have worked with, and impressed with, the Reflection emulator. A customer
of a CMP I once worked for used a zillion or so of these on a factory floor,
intermingled with VT340s, and *never* reported a bug to us which didn't appear
on both devices identically. If you have PC capability on your Amiga, you won't
go wrong with this program (if you can afford it!).

Regarding SIXEL, a small nit- it is not a *feature* of 240, 340, etcetera, but
is a well-documented *format;*  the *feature* of the terminals listed is
*support* for display of SIXEL format.

Yeah, I'm sure the author of .2 (and most of us) know this, but for those who
don't, the difference can be significant- as a format which "stands alone," it
can be supported by things like VT200, the LN03 and LPS40 printers, and anything
else you want to tweak to understand it.

Cheers,
	Bob
4409.6NAC::BRANNONvalue addedFri Jan 11 1991 19:407
    re .5:
    Interesting.  My personal experience with the Reflection emulators has 
    been just the opposite.  I guess it depends on what software and
    picture files it encounters.    
    
    regards,
    dennis
4409.7NAC::BRANNONvalue addedFri Jan 11 1991 19:446
    While 4 color sixel was useful awhile back, most picture files I've
    encountered have been 16 colors or more.  I'll try out Smokey's sixel
    support - thanks.  I didn't know it could do that.
    
    dennis