Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    Could you post a brief description?  I haven't heard people talking
    about it.

     Is this new or what...
     The manual makes this look like an impressive program...
    						I'll check out how it works
    Tonight....
    							Ed
    

    
    There is one catch, you need the hardware interface for $25 to utilize
    and device storage (from what I gather). It does work though. I typed
    in some simple programs. The nice thing is that it is multitasking. You
    can run a C64 program, and an Amiga program simultaneously.

     The big plus for people I know is that it'll allow them to retrieve
    all those print-shop graphics they invested so much time and money in
    and save them as iff's.
     Also, if you wanted to use Quantum-link, you can use the emulator
    (or does Q-link's disk use a fast format?). 
     As far as disk storage, it's supposed to let you access df0: and df1:
    through the emulator. (although the disk format will still be Amiga
    file system.
     
    								Ed
    

    I picked up a commercial C=64 emulator for $19 through one of the
    mail-order outfits.  It included a serial/parallel conversion box that
    connects the Amiga's parallel (printer) port to your Commodore diskette
    drives and printer.
    
.4  Also, if you wanted to use Quantum-link, you can use the emulator
.4  (or does Q-link's disk use a fast format?).
    
    This would depend upon the emulator addressing the Amiga's RS232 serial
    port as if it were the C=64 serial port AND appropriate setup of the
    Quantum Link modem configuration.
    
    The emulator gives an effective, albeit cumbersome, means of moving
    files between the C=64/128 environment and the Amiga environment.  It's
    less than 100% accurate, so some programs that use every nook and
    cranny of the C=64 may fail in the emulator.  For my purposes, a C=128
    emulation would be a lot more useful (40 & 80 column displays in two
    windows? 8^).  So would emulation of a C=17xx RAM Expansion Unit.

Quick Warning:  

This version of the software will only function on a base 68000 system!  I
failed to notice that in the manual, and when I tried it out last night,
it wouldn't run.  Not even when I tried to fall back on the 68010.

Apparently there is a 680x0 version in the works.  Until then, people
with accelerators will have to wait.  I may swap my 68000 back in for the 
time being, and see how it runs with only 1 meg.

Steve

     RE:-2
    
    This program does allow you to use the amiga drives as storage devices.
    However they are still in amigados format, not c-64.
     So if you can get a C-64 program onto an amiga-formatted disk, your
    all set. (as long as it's not copy protected).
     This is how I tested Bluethunder and superkong (both PD versions) last
    night.
     The programs ran, but Bluethunder had trouble with sprite detection,
    and it's use of the raster interupts, messed up the screen abit
    (flashing).
     Super donkey kong had similar problems however the it seemed a bit
    more stable and sprite colision worked correctly.
      They both ran terribly slow.....
     I'll try messing with some of the screen parameters and see if this
    helps speed it up any.
     							ED
    
    
    

    If you have a C64, you can copy the ROM contents to the A64. The
    programs that allow this are included in the A64 package. It may make
    it *more* compatible. Also, it is possible that some games utilize the
    RAM available in the 1541 disk drives. I believe the A64 manual warns
    about that.

    Maybe in the future he will make it so instead of needing a 64 drive
    because it has ram in it..unlike the amiga drive..he will make it so it
    uses amiga RAM for the drive..so it will be more compatible with amig
    drives..
    
    nybody understand what im saying?
    

    re:.9
    
    yes, I can see it now... a ram drive emulating an smart c64 drive
    talking over a 2400 bps serial link.  Just so that the "fast loaders"
    can work.  Ick.
    
    Or a ram assisted real amiga disk drive doing the same thing. Double
    ick.
    
    Now if only he was spending his time doing something better, like an
    8bit Atari emulator :-)  (I have one of those, don't have a 64)
    
    But at least he proved that you don't have to take over the system and
    blow away multitasking to do an emulation on an Amiga.
    
    Dave
    

    x
    IVE HEARD ABOUT A GOOD PD ATARI 8-BIT EMULATOR 
    
    .for the Atari ST ..but have never seen one for the amiga..also I have
    yet to see a Apple II emulator for the amiga.
    

Funny,

I was thinking about an Apple II emulator just this weekend, I thought
I'd seen a 6502 emulator on a fish disk somewhere, but when I checked
The Aquarium I couldn't spot one.

Mike
(owner of an Apple II+ - packed away)

>I was thinking about an Apple II emulator just this weekend, I thought
>I'd seen a 6502 emulator on a fish disk somewhere, but when I checked
>The Aquarium I couldn't spot one.

 Fred Fish #92 AS6502 Assembler is all I can find.
    
    You could always run the BBC emulator for 6502
    
    			-Pete-

Here is a bizarre solution for you.  A usenet FTP sight has
an Atari emulator that someone successfully ran an Atari-based 
Apple emulator on... 

Dave

    
    Any chance of someone FTP'ing the two of them over to, say, TAPE?
    
    Dennis

    I was having problems running this emulator on my 68020, until I
    discovered that by PowerPacking it to run in CHIP memory only, I got
    it to work.
    
    There must be something about the timing on my A2620 that is throwing
    the emulator off.

    Cliff Dugan plans to release a version of the emulator with sound
    sometime this month.