Title: | AMIGA NOTES |
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Created: | Sat Apr 26 1986 |
Last Modified: | Wed Feb 05 1992 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
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Hi, I was wondering if I could get a list of CPU add on boards suitable for the A500 and maybe we should do a 2000 listing too. One day (finances allowing) I'd like to stuff a 68020 under the 'hood' of my 500. The current CPU accelerators I'm aware of are :- Product CPU Performance Comments CMI 68010 ? No longer available and I gather unreliable in some configurations. Midget Racer 68020 + 25% to 50% Reasonable performance boost but not as good as having a 'poper' 020. Compatibility high ? 20-Card 68020 + 500% ? 32 bit memory on card, 16mhz. Compatibility ? Regards Mike
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4073.1 | go for the 030! | WJG::GUINEAU | Mon Sep 03 1990 08:08 | 5 | |
I think Imtronics (was Ronin(sp?) Hurricane) makes a 68030 board for the A500 now. john | |||||
4073.2 | Midget Racer works great | DECWET::DAVIS | You always get what you deserve | Tue Sep 04 1990 13:05 | 14 |
Somewhere within these notesfiles I posted the benchmarks on my A500 with the CSA midget racer and a 25Mhz 68882. Generally the performance increase was between 40-120% depending on the application. If the application was designed for use with a FPU multiply the above by 6 or 7. The midget racer works with all the programs I have, PD and commercial, although I haven't tried playing any commercial games. As stated above I haven't tried to boot up any floppy based commercial games because I do not think they will work with the '020 and, from what I've heard, if they do run they run fast.(no proof). My only complaint is that I cannot switch between 68000 mode and '020 mode like the Hurricane 500 or Mega Midget racer ('030w32bit mem,etc...). mark | |||||
4073.3 | Consider the Mega Midget | LEDS::ACCIARDI | Larger than life, and twice as ugly | Tue Sep 04 1990 14:05 | 14 |
CSA, maker of the aforementioned Midget racer, is now offering their MegaMidget. This board has 16 or 25 MHz 68030 with or without the FPU and can accept up to 4(?) megs of fast 32 bit ram. What's interesting is the use of a special 512K bank of SCRAM that the ROM image is copied to for super-fast access. For more info, contact Steve Riker at CSA. I don't have the address and phone at the tip of my tongue, but I posted a note long ago regarding a special deal to DEC employees. A 'DIR/TITLE="*MIDGET*"' should get you the info. Ed. | |||||
4073.4 | LEDS::ACCIARDI | Larger than life, and twice as ugly | Tue Sep 04 1990 14:08 | 7 | |
Re -.1 I forgot to mention that the MegaMidget has the MC68000 onboard for complete fall-back compatibility with games and naughty software. Ed. | |||||
4073.5 | 68000 and 68030 ? | WELSWS::FINNIS | Tue Sep 04 1990 17:48 | 11 | |
68030 and 68000 , Wait a minute.... I thought the whole idea of using the 68030 in the A3000 , was because it was 100% compatible with the 68000 wheras the '020 was not...... How much are the Processors and co-processors on their own..? - Pete - | |||||
4073.6 | A5000 | ARRODS::GOLDSTEIN | Steve G DTN: 847-5415 | Thu Sep 06 1990 07:42 | 17 |
And Now from the people who offered the 20-Card :- The A5000 card....... It contains a 68020 running at 16,20 or 25 MHz price in England �399,�499 or �599 and upto 4-Megs of 32-Bit RAM Supports Co-Processor at upto 50 MHz and has a 68000 for fall back... Upto 30% faster than the 20-Card Contact Solid State Leisure on 0933 650677 (All info taken from New Computer Express ) Steve G | |||||
4073.7 | DigiFex == CSI | SDOGUS::WILLIAMS | TOPGUN | Thu Sep 06 1990 11:30 | 4 |
The CSI accelerator board is still available (as is all of the CSI stuff) from DigiFeX. I think that they are in Oregon City, OR. TOPGUN | |||||
4073.8 | CSI -->> CMI! | EEMELI::LINDEN | Fri Sep 07 1990 01:15 | 8 | |
>>DigiFex == CSI --- CSI??? It should be CMI (Creative Micro Inc., I think....) Regards, Kari | |||||
4073.9 | Cheap Accelerator ? | FREEBE::MONTREUIL | Let's bomb Saddam | Wed Sep 19 1990 23:27 | 103 |
A friend of mine in the UK called the other day asking about how to take the clock frequency of the Amiga's master clock (28Mhz) and get it down to 14Mhz. It seems he has come across the following project and wants to try and implement it. It comes with a picture file also but I didn't recieve that very well when we did a long distance Xmodem transfer (good thing he was calling me!). I'd like to pass along your comments out there back to him regarding this project. Another question - Is there a multinational service like set up like GENIE or COMPUSERVE or do those services already have a means to send electronic mail to the UK? I'd like to avoid lots of long distance calls if this means of communication proves habit forming. If he only worked for DEC... Amiga 500 processor accelerator project by Leslie Ayling p.o. box 334 GLEBE 2037 Welcome once again to cheapskates corner, where we try and buy the world for a song. This time around we shall increase the speed of the processor to just over 14Mhz, double the standard speed, for under $25 !!!! You will need the following - 1. an MC68000p12A 16MHz processor. These are available in Sydney from VSI electronics, 16 DICKSON ave ARTARMON 2064 ph (02)4398622 cost is $18.90 plus tax ($22.68 tax inc.) 2. a 74F74 D type flip flop. Geoff wood at Lane Cove or Rod Irving should keep them. 3. a few short lengths of hook-up wire. 4. a SPDT switch. Refer to the accompanying circuit diagram Note: Keep the leads to the switch as SHORT as possible. The circuit is relatively straight forward. the 74F74 is wired as a positive edge triggered divide by two circuit, which provides the alternate clock frequency of 14.18Mhz approxiamately. The old 68000 8Mhz processor is removed and replaced with the 16Mhz version which has is clock pin (15) bent out horizontally so we can connect our new circuitry to it. The SPDT switch either connects the normal 7Mhz signal or the new 14Mhz signal to the 68000's clock input. The switch can be changed while the machine is on, however it will simply lock up.Just reset as usual from the keyboard once you have changed speed. I have a revision 5 board with new 1.3 roms which cope with the new speed quite happily. Using the program CRAMDEN-SI from MEGADISC 10 to compare the difference the mod makes : the standard position gives- performance relative to amiga 1000 : 1.0 performance relative to ibm pc/xt : 3.2 On high speed the performance is- performance relative to amiga 1000 : 1.7 performance relative to ibm pc/xt : 5.2 so roughly a 70% increase in performance. Even though the clock speed is doubled to the processor, the performance dosen't increase to 2.0 because the agnus and the other support chips are still running at the same speed as before thus holding the processor up for a slightly higher percentage of the total time than before. This mod basically gives the same capability as the CMI accelerator board priced at $399 in sydney, with the exception that it isn't software controlled. However when it's only costing 1/16th the price one cant really complain!!. If you have any queries or would like the mod installed in your machine, either contact me direct or via Megadisc. The machine should work on the 1000 and 2000 however the pin numbers may be different.I suggest you compare the a500 schematics with that of your machine and make note of the differences. Hope this is of some help...........regards Leslie Ayling. #addendum# One machine this mod was carried out on had trouble with the one of the disk drives at high speed. It appeared to be trying to step the head of the internal drive faster than the drive could physically move and refused to boot.When I connected a drive with a 5ms track-track access time and booted off of it the problem dissappeared. I have a patch for this problem for normal DOS disks to slow down the step rate which sits in the boot sector.It may be a problem however for protected software or non-standard boot sector type programs.Don't despair however the patch is very small and should fit in somewhere anyway.Just drop me a line. If your machine exhibits the problem, the patch disk is available DIRECT from me with various usefull disk speedup utils and a Trackdisk step-rate alteration program, plus loads of other priceless information on gurus, reset program flow, diagnostics all on an ARP1.3 system disk for the princely sum of $5 !! There should be no problem with HARD disks however if anyone encounters any please let me know........thanks. | |||||
4073.10 | KA620::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Thu Sep 20 1990 06:45 | 8 | |
I think someone else has already tried this 'accelerator' out. I remember notin that the originator of the design was from Sydney (get a buzz when I see stuff originating from this end of the world). I do seem to recall the person(s) that tried it did not have very satisfactory results. Anyone remember who it was ? Mike | |||||
4073.11 | See the cheap accelerator note (no it doesn't work) | MQOFS::DESROSIERS | Lets procrastinate....tomorrow | Thu Sep 20 1990 13:16 | 5 |
If you are still serious about trying it, I have one of those 16Mhz 68000 on the shelf, cheap. Jean | |||||
4073.12 | A5000 USers ? | NOTIBM::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Tue Apr 23 1991 22:08 | 7 |
I was reading a review of the A5000 accelerator in Amiga Format (UK mag) the other day. It sounds nice. Anyone lashed out and bought one, and if so what is there impression. Mike (who likes the sound of the MegamidgetRacer, but note the price) | |||||
4073.13 | Really nice but... | MEALA::COLLINS | STEVE | Wed Apr 24 1991 13:11 | 172 |
Here's my thoughts on the A5000 . Also included are the results of running every benchmark I could find and any results of these benchmarks I could find for other machines for comparison. A5000 Review. Let me start at the beginning .I was one of the origeonal people who purchased the 20-Card from Solid State Leisure (A small company based in the north of England). This card was the predicessor of the A5000. I ordered my card when the ads for the 20 card first started appearing in Amiga Format magazine. I spend about 3 months after the initial order ringing SSL every week to find out the status of the board . The ads were in fact placed before the boards were ready to ship .They provided a variety of excuses ranging from "the board is due to finnish cad layout this week and we'll have boards ready to ship 2 weeks after that" to "all our boards are at an exhibition and they ship next week ". I live in Ireland and I eventually received a letter from the customs people saying my board had been siezed as there was no green sticker on the out side of the goods. It took another month to get the board into my hands. I wouldn't mind but I explicitly told them in the order and on the phone not to forget the green sticker. If that wasn't bad enough they also left the green sticker off the A5000 board that I subsequently recieved. The 20-card gave me 2 problems. Firstly it had no 68000 fall back mode which I I was led to believe it would have and secondly it would not run with my HDA506 hard disk system. I got read write errors when trying to access my hard disk which were apparently due to the 20-card not stretching the cycle long enough when doing accesses to non-chip ram. I could "eventually" get the hard disk to work by making sure it's driver and buffers were loaded into chip ram . This of course cut my hard disk access speed to a fraction of what it it was. The solution I got from SSL was "Oh yeah we've heard of people with hard disk problems , what you want is our new A5000 card . It's compatible with peripherals because this time is was designed for compatibility !". It took several more months for the A5000 design to materialise and a couple more for me to recieve mine. The A5000 comes with one meg of 32 bit memory included in the price and with a 16Mhz 68020. It has sockets for an additional 3 meg of ram to be added to bring it up to a total of 4 megs of 32 bit ram. The A5000 also has 2 problems. First off , I have a pheonix 2 slot zorro-II expander hanging off the 86-pin expansion bus on my A500. This has a microbotics 8up memory module populated to 2 meg with Simms. This memory expansion will not work with the A5000 . SSL say "we are aware of problems people are having with 8up boards , what you need is the latest version of the A5000 , rev 3A." This is being layed out at the moment and will apparently be available in a couple of weeks. It seemingly talks to things on the expansion bus through a buffer which will cure all these expansion troubles. I eagerly await it's arrival. The second problem is when you try to expand the memory beyond the 1 meg supplied. The memory the board is supplied with is Goldstar Cmos 256kx4 rams. However when I populated the board with Nec Cmos 256kx4 rams I could only get it to work with a maximum of 3 meg not 4meg. SSL say "oh you should have used Goldstar rams , it works with 4 meg of Goldstar rams guaranteed. There is a problem with the rev 2 A5000 (the one I have) the autorouter didn't lay out the board properly .It only joined the ground pins on the rams vertically whereas it should have done them horizontally as well ,forming a grid . what you want is our rev 3 A5000 it won't have this problem ." After much trial and error and reading everything on ram I could find I now have my rev 2 A5000 working with 4 meg of Nec ram. I'm not sure which of these things is responsible for the problem but I'm not undoing them one at a time to find out. Firstly I carefully soldered wires horizontally between all the ram grounds. Secondly I hardwired (with thick wire) the +5v and ground buses on the A5000 to those on my A500 to prevent voltage drops on the board. Thirdly I added a microfan to the top of the board to cool one of the pals which was hot. and lastly I forgot to mention there are holes on the edge of the board where pull up resistor packs were used to pull up the address lines and some control signals such as ras and cas etc. These resistor paks had once been inserted but were subsequently cut out at the factory. SSL say these were no longer needed as they went with series termination instead of pullups. I found however that I needed to solder in a 10k 10 way SIP into one of the five locations to get 4 megs to work properly.(in combination with the other 3 fixes). As an experiment I tried running the board at 20Mhz and 24Mhz as I had these crystals and a 25Meg 020 lying around. The board worked up to 20Mhz with 2 meg of memory and up to 24Mhz with just 1 meg. I ran benchmarks at these speeds and have included them below. I'm going to get a loan of a storage scope and find out just what is going on with the memory termination. I feel confident that I will be able to get the board working at 20Mhz with 4 meg of memory and perhaps up to 24Mhz with 4 meg also. Here's some benchmarks .The ones for anything but the A500 A5000 or 20-card are just copied from places on the net , and the table isn't full cos these are the only no's I have access to. Machine A500 A2620 20-card A5000/16 A5000/20 A5000/24 AdSpeed Lucas Mips 0.78 4.14 4.52 4.94 6.00 7.26 - 5.26 cpuspeed 98% 347% 495% 530% 634% 761% speed 2.0 1.01 3.44 3.32 4.08 4.9 5.89 DhRyr 111s 34s 33s 28s 23s 20s sieve 45s 12.5s 12.3s 6s 5s 4s SI2 1.0 4.6 5.5 5.6 7.1 7.8 AIBB WritePixel 100% - 249% 249% 256% - 146% Dhrystone 100% - 291% 312% 373% - 169% sort 100% - 333% 364% 426% - 180% sieve 100% - 276% 425% 505% - 178% savage 100% - 320% 408% 477% - 164% matrix 100% - 324% 410% 490% - 192% --------------------------------------------------------------------- (take into account some of these comparisons are with a 68030's) Sysinfo V1.94 A5000 relative to this machine | A5000 @16Mhz @20Mhz @24Mhz | A500 (no expansion - has chip ram contention) | 4.87 5.79 6.93 B2000 with extra ram | 3.71 4.41 5.28 B2000 with GVP A3001 | 0.45 0.54 0.65 B2000 with A2630 | 1.20 1.43 1.71 B2000 with A2620 | 1.41 1.68 2.01 A3000 @16Mhz | 1.30 1.55 1.86 A3000 @25Mhz | 0.76 0.91 1.09 some of these numbers look a bit dodgy to me so they should be taken with a large pinch of salt. I have to say after all the hassle I've had it's been worth it. The speed up is great. Things are so much smoother , even my hard disk zips along . I got an updated driver for my HDA-506 so it's sped up in 32 bit mode. If I give my hard-disk 500 buffers of 32 bit ram I can get speeds of up to nearly 1.7 and 1.8 MEG a second write and reads according to diskspeed 3.0 . While I doubt these numbers .The whole system including the hard disks really does go like lightning . Some points I didn't mention .The fallback mode on the A5000 is software controlled .You have no hardware switch. When you want to use the 68000 you boot up and click the fallback icon , this reboots the machine with the 68000 .Allthough this isn't as convenient as a switch it does work reliably. Another point to mention is the quality of construction. The A5000 is a hand- soldered double sided PCB .It most definitily never saw a solder bath. I think this is inline with the nature of the company , this is their first project of this kind and the're on a steep learning curve. I think the quality and reliability of their products will improve as they learn from their mistakes. (Although I do resent being used as an unpaid design verification tester). I think this is an important consideration , especially when trying to weigh the A5000 against something like a megamidget racer. The midget racer is a mature product of quality SMT construction. I have also had many dealings with Bytes and Pieces who I think are the sole distributors for midget racers in the UK , they are a very professional outfit .They send out stuff quickly and provide good customer support . At the end of the day I'd have to say I think you get what you pay for the A5000 provides a very cheap entry level accelerator . It's becoming much more stable but as I say there are other important considerations to take into account. Hope this helps... Steve. If you need any more info you can ring me at DTN 826-2321 | |||||
4073.14 | NOTIBM::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Fri Apr 26 1991 00:27 | 22 | |
Thanks for the full in-depth review Steve, You get what's you pay for I supose. Still, I would assume they are sorting out some of the design issues, though one of you hacks sounds a bit extreme - the microfan. Does that indicate a bad basic design, or a poorly implemented one. I'll certainly keep the product in mind, but at the moment I don't have the cash, and after your comments I would be very unlikely to mailorder a board from the UK. Matbe if they get an Aussie distributor. I like the sound of it over the original MidgetRacer as that didn't have the 68000 fallback, and I don't really want to go to the expense of a '030 based accelerator. I supose will I'm waiting the products will mature, new ones will come out etc. thanks again Mike - Adelaide, Australia p.s. Love to call you, but down have access to DTN) | |||||
4073.15 | VXL 30 | LOSPED::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Tue Sep 24 1991 04:51 | 12 |
Hi, anyone had any experience with the MicroBotics VXL 30 ? The "Information Release" sheet I have would seem to indicate that it is a MegaMidget Racer copmetitor. It includes socket for the 68000 for fall-back mode, the ability have another board tacked on for 32 bit memory etc. thanks Mike | |||||
4073.16 | Anyone have the Bytes 'N' Pieces number? | COMICS::HOGGAN | No, I am not kidding !!! | Thu Sep 26 1991 06:11 | 2 |
4073.17 | Looks good to me... | SHARE::DOYLE | Tue Oct 08 1991 10:08 | 99 | |
<<< FRSOLD::IS$NOTES:[NOTES$LIBRARY]AMIGA_REVIEWS.NOTE;1 >>> -< comp.sys.amiga.review - postings >- ================================================================================ Note 24.0 REVIEW: Microbotics VXL 68030 Card No replies FRSOLD::ZIMMERMANN "[email protected] (Da" 93 lines 6-OCT-1991 13:44 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Article: 61 Path: nntpd.lkg.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!deccrl!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu From: [email protected] (David Gilbert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.reviews Subject: REVIEW: Microbotics VXL 68030 Card Keywords: hardware, accelerator, 68030 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: 3 Oct 91 22:52:18 GMT Sender: [email protected] (Jason L. Tibbitts III) Reply-To: [email protected] (David Gilbert) Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Organization: The Amiga Online Review Column - ed. Jason L. Tibbitts III Lines: 78 Approved: [email protected] First thing I'll say is... wow! $429 cdn (Electronics 2001, Toronto). This little card is a 68EC030 (optional full 030) at 25Mhz. It has a socket for math (although it's PLCC), and attachments for 32bit ram. THE PACKAGE, AND INSTALLATION OF SAID. Well... documentation is sparse... three sheets of 8.5X11 paper... but I don't think they could have written much more without getting too verbose. The installation of the card is easy, but they used the type of socket that consists of little round holes surrounded by little beads of plastic. I had trouble getting the 68000 into them as they could be a micron wider... :)... Actually, my 68000 was not in good enough shape to fit into the card, so I installed my 68010 instead. The card didn't seem to mind. I'll probably pick up a 68000 at the Commodore show in December... they're usually about $7! FIRST IMPRESSION. Holy boot time batman! Damn thing booted before the monitor warmed up! ...even floppy access is faster. CURRENT SYSTEM. -Microbotics 68030@25Mhz - no ram - no math -GVP series II hd w/ 105meg 19ms drive. -4.5meg of ram (1meg chip) on ICD board. -original IBM XT power supply ($30!!!) WHAT IS IT, DAMN IT!?! There was some confusion among programs as to what the darn thing was! Xoper thought it was a 68020/68881! GVP's little system thing correctly identified the 68030 with inactive MMU, but it let me look at all the non-existent MMU registers anyways! It also was under the impression that both caches were always on, but you can check it out correctly using the cache control register query. SetCPU, and SetVXL (both included with the package) identified everything correctly, and performed predictably! THE FIRST GURU! Well, all was not right in Amigaland last night. I tried turning on the data cache, and neither my HD or any of my software seemed to have any problem with it. So: I put it into my startup sequence! What a spectacular crash! AdRAM (included with the ICD RAM thingie) was under the impression that I had ram all over the place! It started adding ram that I never knew I had (ended up with about 10 meg I figure!)... anyways... it turns out that it's having the data cache on that confuses this little program... so the fix is to have SetVXL (or SetCPU) after AdRAM in your startup sequence. There is, by the way, no physical conflict between the AdRAM daughter board for the Gary, and the VXL 30 board. OVERALL... Compile time of TeX went from 30mins to 7mins, but Manx's asm crashed on the last file (where it didn't before...) with a pointer out of range... I'll have to talk to Manx about this. Professional Page zips along, and floppies seem to have a perceptible speed increase of icon display. LHArc was pleasing, but I just can't wait for LZ now! LEMMINGS...! You probably did a double-take at this last heading... well it just has to be said that Lemmings works better with an '030! No, it doesn't run at speed 78... (that could be fun!) But it does load faster, and the pauses between screens are almost instantaneous! And... when you nuke 'em... they blow up faster! Hat's off to Psygnosis for creating a game that works well on another processor! (and I'm not talking '286 trash, either!) Documentation: B Software: B+ Hardware: A Cost: A+ Overall: A+ Dave. -- David C. L. Gilbert | Something witty should here. | [email protected] | | [email protected] |-->Only Amiga makes it possible | Environment Canada | | -- Jason L. Tibbitts III | Moderator: comp.sys.amiga.reviews "Blob Shop Programmers:| Send submissions to [email protected] Because We're Bored!" | Check comp.sys.amiga.reviews for submissions Disclaimer: Opinions...| guide, disclaimers, etc. Fnord. | |||||
4073.18 | Another review of SSL's 68020 Accelerator | HYDRA::MOORE | Simply reinstall....EVERYTHING! | Thu Oct 31 1991 22:50 | 297 |
Article 64 of comp.sys.amiga.reviews: Path: sousa!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!datum.nyo.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!menudo.uh.edu From: [email protected] (Barry McConnell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.reviews Subject: REVIEW: Solid State Leisure A5000-16 68020 Accelerator Keywords: hardware, accelerator, 68020 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: 31 Oct 91 05:43:14 GMT Sender: [email protected] (Jason L. Tibbitts III) Reply-To: Barry McConnell <[email protected]> Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware Organization: The Amiga Online Review Column - ed. Jason L. Tibbitts III Lines: 280 Approved: [email protected] [The Solid State Leisure A5000-16 is an affordable 68020 accelerator with many of the standard features such as 32 bit expansion RAM and 68000 fallback mode. It does have its quirks and shortcomings, though. JLT3] [This review previously appeared in comp.sys.amiga.[hardware,misc], but I'm reposting it here for the sake of those who are interested but don't follow those groups. JLT3] Here is a review of Solid State Leisure's A5000-16 68020 accelerator board, which I got for my Amiga 500 a week ago. Before I start, I just want to mention that I had to wait almost ten weeks for it to arrive, and telephoned them (long-distance) seven times during that period. What happened was that they sent out one board by registered post, which never got to me. Since it was insured, they sent me out a second one, as they would be able to claim compensation for the first one. The second one never got to me either. In actual fact, both were eventually sent back to SSL by Irish Customs (I live in Ireland; SSL are in England, which is the country next-door to us; look at a map...), who for some unknown reason, refused to send it on to me. I can only assume that SSL made a mess of the Customs declaration docket on the parcel, as I have received a lot of other goods from England in the past, including a hard drive, with no problems at all. Anyway, they finally sent the third board out by courier, which did get to me. The hardware: ------------- 16.67Mhz 68020, with space for 4Mb of 32-bit RAM (comes with 1Mb as standard, uses 256*4 80ns DRAMs, which is handy if you have some in your A590/A2091), space for a 68881/2 maths coprocessor, but no MMU. All this sits on one small board, which plugs into the 68000 socket in your A500/A2000. The original 68000 chip fits onto the accelerator board, and is used in the 68000 fallback mode. You don't need a new PSU to use this board, even if it means you'll end up with 5Mb inside your Amiga, as the extra RAM chips take a minimal amount of power. There is an option to copy your Kickstart ROM into fast 32-bit RAM, and the board will automatically remap all the Amiga's ROM accesses into RAM, so anything which relies on the OS routines (including windows) will run much faster. This currently only works with 1.2/1.3 Kickstart ROMs, but an update to the software supplied will support KS2.0, and will be available soon. The memory is *not* autoconfig; you must run an AllocMem program in your Startup-Sequence, which searches for 32-bit memory, and adds any found to the system's memory list. Installation: ------------- Probably not for those who don't feel confident about ripping chips out of their Amiga (I got a friend to do it for me). The first time we switched on with the '020 installed, the screen went a worrying shade of green, but this was probably because the board wasn't properly seated in the socket. (As an aside, ever wanted to know what happens when you turn your Amiga on with no 680x0 chip at all? - Absolutely nothing! (You see a grey screen.) 8-) ) I was able to use some of the RAM chips from my A590, and these go into the 4 1Mb banks on the board, so you can have from 1-4Mb of 32-bit RAM. (I have a total of 3Mb of 32-bit RAM, 1Mb of 16-bit fast RAM, and 1Mb of chip RAM, giving 5Mb altogether.) Speed: ------ SSL claimed a 500% (5 times) speed increase, and true enough, most benchmarks will give this. Mips gives a result of 4.969519 (as opposed to 0.847750) which is almost six times faster. AmigaBench gives a result of 3561 Dhrystones/sec (as opposed to 1012), but the optimised 68020 version gives 5694. The various benchmark programs included with the board (CalcPi, Ronin CPU speed, Whetstone, another version of Mips) give 4-5x speed increases. However, benchmarks like these are not what it's all about, so I did some "real-world" tests, as these are the ones you will find useful/interesting: 68000 68020 Speed increase Time to LhArc DPaint to RAM: 3m00s 1m06s 2.7 Time to un-LhArc it 1m09s 0m22s 3.1 Time to PowerPack a 200K file 1m53s 0m34s 3.3 Time to 'echo' a 400K sound sample in AM3 2m43s 0m50s 3.2 Time to decompress a disk using DMS 4m20s 1m26s 3.0 Time for HamSharp to convert a pic GIF->IFF 1m35s 0m30s 3.1 Time for TurboGif to display a GIF pic 11.2s 4.3s 2.6 Time to open a dozen windows on Workbench 26.7s 18.0s 1.4 Time to close them all 29.1s 14.0s 2.0 Time to draw a Mandelbrot set 26.6s 5.9s 4.5 Oi! Where's my DMA gone?? ------------------------- There is one serious problem with the board: you can't DMA from your hard drive into its 32-bit memory. There has been some discussion of this problem on Usenet, and apparently while the FileSystem manages to get around it, it doesn't do it very well. Just to show what I'm talking about, here are the results from DiskPerf2, running first in normal 68000 mode (DMA-ing into ordinary 16-bit fast RAM), then in 68020 mode (failing to DMA into 32-bit RAM, so it reads 512 bytes at a time into 16-bit RAM, then CPU copies them up to 32-bit RAM). My hard drive is a Quantum LP52S - a very fast SCSI HD - in an A590. DiskPerf2. Testing Files: Create Files: 23 files/sec. Directory Scan: 117 entries/sec. Delete Files: 62 files/sec. Seek/Read Test: 94 seek/sec. Read/Write Speed Test: (bytes/sec.) Buffer: 512 Read: 30,169 Write: 22,036 Buffer: 4k Read: 221,405 Write: 169,892 Buffer: 8k Read: 325,644 Write: 255,252 Buffer: 32k Read: 382,691 Write: 445,823 Buffer: 64k Read: 476,625 Write: 562,540 Buffer: 256k Read: 576,140 Write: 695,342 (Note: This was on a slightly fragmented partition; I sometimes obtain speeds of up to 800-850K/sec.) DiskPerf2. Testing Files: Create Files: 15 files/sec. Directory Scan: 125 entries/sec. Delete Files: 61 files/sec. Seek/Read Test: 80 seek/sec. Read/Write Speed Test: (bytes/sec.) Buffer: 512 Read: 26,211 Write: 19,772 Buffer: 4k Read: 39,954 Write: 29,049 Buffer: 8k Read: 40,398 Write: 29,293 Buffer: 32k Read: 40,249 Write: 27,643 Buffer: 64k Read: 39,991 Write: 27,902 Buffer: 256k Read: 40,077 Write: 28,352 As can be seen, this problem occurs when manipulating large files; you won't notice any difference when loading/saving small files, such as small utilities, text files etc. But for large files, you're talking about a 3-6x speed _decrease_. I copied about 600K of data (mostly one big file) from my hard drive to RAM: before installing the 68020, and it took 6.9s. With the 68020, it took 21.7s. Copying from one partition to the other was twice as bad: 8.5s for the 68000, 50s (!) for the 68020. Reading 2Mb sound samples in AudioMaster is now a joke. For some operations, I have timed speeds of as low as twice that of a floppy, cough, choke... This problem is something which you can live with, as of course even the worst cases are faster than floppy, and it won't affect you very much unless you like messing around with large files, or frequently boot very large applications (such as ProPage). But it is something to bear in mind if you are considering purchasing this board. Before I ordered it, I asked SSL about the DMA problem, and the man I was talking to told me it wouldn't really affect me as long as I left some ordinary 16-bit fast RAM in the A590 (which you can DMA into) as a buffer for the FileSystem to use. Hmm... I think he was wrong! 8-( Just as an aside: I ran DiskPerf on the RAM disk, and was suitably impressed by the results. First 68000, then 68020 with its 32-bit RAM... DiskPerf2. Testing Ram Disk: Create Files: 14 files/sec. Directory Scan: 15 entries/sec. Delete Files: 28 files/sec. Seek/Read Test: 360 seek/sec. Read/Write Speed Test: (bytes/sec.) Buffer: 512 Read: 212,606 Write: 174,066 Buffer: 4k Read: 840,205 Write: 548,418 Buffer: 8k Read: 967,321 Write: 599,871 Buffer: 32k Read: 1,092,266 Write: 647,269 Buffer: 64k Read: 1,106,092 Write: 658,653 Buffer: 256k Read: 1,125,081 Write: 668,734 DiskPerf2. Testing Ram Disk: Create Files: 39 files/sec. Directory Scan: 47 entries/sec. Delete Files: 80 files/sec. Seek/Read Test: 370 seek/sec. Read/Write Speed Test: (bytes/sec.) Buffer: 512 Read: 255,750 Write: 224,438 Buffer: 4k Read: 1,899,594 Write: 916,587 Buffer: 8k Read: 2,702,515 Write: 1,078,781 Buffer: 32k Read: 3,912,597 Write: 1,248,304 Buffer: 64k Read: 3,912,597 Write: 1,337,469 Buffer: 256k Read: 4,599,017 Write: 1,351,257 Compatibility: -------------- Very good, actually. Almost all productivity software runs perfectly under the '020. There seems to be only one problem with the board with respect to compatibility: while it doesn't have an MMU, some software thinks that it does, and promptly crashes when trying to find out more about it. A-MaxII crashes because of this, as does Nic Wilson's SysInfo. Both crash with a "Coprocessor Protocol Violation" error (GURU 8000000D). Another program once told me I had a 68020 with a 68851 MMU, but has crashed every other time I tried to run it. This is quite worrying... Another program which doesn't like the board is HD-Toolbox. When you boot it, you are greeted by a requester telling you that some drives have been added/removed from the system, and to click on "Save changes to drive" to tell other drives about this. But on clicking the "Partition Drive" button first, you see that all your partition data has been lost, and instead has been reconfigured to the default 2 partitions (25Mb each in my case). Click on "Save changes", and 0.5 seconds later, you are left with one very empty hard drive!! You don't even get an "Are you sure?" requester! Since the program works with the A3000, I can only assume there is something wrong with the 68020 board to upset HD-Toolbox in this way. (It works in 68000 fallback mode, though.) IntuiTracker and EdPlayer don't like faster processors, and screw up the music slightly, but ModuleMaster works fine, as it uses the new ProTracker play-routines. Apart from that, everything else seems to work fine. I can't say much about games, as I don't exactly have terribly many of them. Two I did try were R-Type2 and F-18 Interceptor. The former seems to work fine with the added speed (it crashes on the A3000, though), and the latter *blazes* along if you get it into 32-bit RAM. If you've ever seen it on the A3000, you'll know what I'm talking about! Many demos don't work on the '020. I tried a total of nine. The ones which worked perfectly were Coma, Dreamscape, Mesmerized, Neutron Dance and Phantasmagoria (although the scrolly message at the start of this was a bit upset). The ones which didn't were Angels (starts out OK, then there are slight glitches, then finally it crashes), Mental Hangover (crashes after a while), Seven Sins (crashes fairly quickly) and Substance (lots of glitches, although their fractal routine runs much faster...). There is also a 68000 fallback mode. You operate this by clicking on an icon, which reboots the machine using the 68000. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any way of getting out of this mode, other than turning the machine off then on again! And this doesn't suit me at all, especially with the hard drive attached: once I left it off for 15 seconds, turned it on, and was greeted by a yellow screen, which wouldn't go away. (How long *should* you wait after powering-down when you have a lot of memory installed, and an expensive hard drive??) Also, the board's memory cannot be accessed in fallback mode, as it is outside the 16Mb address space... Hey, Mr Bank Manager... ----------------------- Prices... A5000-16 ... 295 B5000-25 ... 595 B5000-40 ... 1162 (The B5000 is a 68030-based board, 25Mhz or 40Mhz. All prices are in Sterling pounds, and include 17.5% VAT, which you can take off if you're outside Britain.) Address: Solid State Leisure Ltd 80 Finedon Road Irthlingborough, Northants NN9 5TZ, England. Telephone: (International) +44 933 650677 They'll send you out an information pack on request. Feel free to e-mail me if you've any questions... Barry. [email protected] -- Jason L. Tibbitts III | Moderator: comp.sys.amiga.reviews "Blob Shop Programmers:| Send submissions to [email protected] Because We're Bored!" | Check comp.sys.amiga.reviews for submissions Disclaimer: Opinions...| guide, disclaimers, etc. Fnord. |