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4038.1 | You get what you pay for. | GIDDAY::MORAN | I'm not bad-I'm just drawn that way! | Wed Aug 22 1990 19:56 | 13 |
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I use a TAXAN 770+ multisync monitor. It has both Analog and digital
RGB Inputs so I can use it for both the Amiga and an IBM. It can handle
CGA,EGA,VGA and with the analog input also PGA.
I've had the monitor for about a year ago with no problems whatsoever
and the resolution is worth the price.
Shaun.
Brisbane. Australia.
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4038.2 | | LEDS::ACCIARDI | Larger than life, and twice as ugly | Wed Aug 22 1990 23:30 | 29 |
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If I were shopping for a new monitor, I'd look for a few features...
o Obviously, Multiscan, with 15.75 to 38 or so KHz scan rates
o .28 or .25 mm dot pitch
o 14" diagonal size
o 1024 x 768 shadow mask, in case you ever (up-down-side)grade to
a PC or other video standard computer.
o The ability to handle an interlaced display correctly
Note that you could buy a generic VGA single-scan color monitor for
well under $350, but you would need an A3000 or FlickerFixer equipped
A2000/2500 to use it, and you would be unable to display some of the
new video modes offered under 2.0/ECS that run at 15.75 KHz.
Many famous and off-brands meet these requirements in the $400 to $600
price range. The NEC 3D ($570) is very popular, but Korean models like
CTX are available for much less money. Mitsubishi also offers models
that have composite video input, which is pretty handy for setting up
to record to a VCR.
The absolute best place to learn more is in Computer Shopper, where there
are literally hundreds of ads for such monitors.
Ed.
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4038.3 | ? Sony 1302 ? | TOTH::PREVIDI | | Mon Oct 08 1990 13:52 | 17 |
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Well, since the subject of multi-sync monitors has been
brought up...
Does anyone have experience with the Sony 1302 ?
It has a strange 900X560 screen, which might work
at 800X600 (SVGA ?) on my AT clone, but I need a better
monitor for my A500 (VR241).
I thought I read somewhere that some Sonys don't work
too well with Amigas.
I,m asking because I have a chance to buy a 1302 for
four hundred clams (new). (The 1302 is new, not the clams.)
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4038.4 | dot pitch & screen size/CRT size? | DECWET::DAVIS | You always get what you deserve | Mon Oct 08 1990 16:26 | 7 |
| What is the relation of "dot pitch" to a monitors screen size? I keep
hearing things like, " the 1084 has a dot pitch of .35", thats why its
fonts look so ugly. If the dot pitch was smaller wouldn't the
640x200(400) screen the amiga drew be smaller in relation to the CRT's
screen size? I mean, oh heck...can you help?.
md
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4038.5 | | BOMBE::MOORE | Amiga: Real computing on a PC budget | Mon Oct 08 1990 17:18 | 3 |
| Dot pitch ratings for monitors are similar to DPI ratings for printers.
Smaller dot pitch numbers mean that edges are "sharper", similar to the
difference you see between 9-pin versus 24-pin printers, etc.
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4038.6 | | TLE::RMEYERS | Randy Meyers | Mon Oct 08 1990 19:08 | 4 |
| Re: .4
To expand on what was said in .5, a pixel need not be made up of only
one dot.
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4038.7 | thanks for clarification, another question | DECWET::DAVIS | You always get what you deserve | Mon Oct 08 1990 21:39 | 7 |
| re: .6
That was what I was missing. Would it be fair to say that a .25 dot
pitch monitor will have a "crisper" picture than a monitor with a
larger dot pitch?
m
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4038.8 | A different type of "square pixel" | TLE::RMEYERS | Randy Meyers | Mon Oct 08 1990 22:11 | 20 |
| Re: .7
>Would it be fair to say that a .25 dot pitch monitor will have a
>"crisper" picture than a monitor with a larger dot pitch?
That's exactly what you should say.
I've noticed that with a fine dot pitch monitor that the transition
from pixel to pixel is so sharp that pixels look like little squares
rather than dots.
The effect is nice for text, but I'm not sure I like it for digitized
graphics. I remember HAM mode pictures looking more natural on my
old 1080 monitor than on my new Zenith flatscreen. On the flatscreen,
the picture looks like it is made up of little tiles.
By the way, if you would like to see a monitor with a very coarse
dot pitch, visit your local Radio Shack. I've been told that they
sell the largest dot pitch monitors around: .40! The monitors
certainly look crude to me.
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4038.9 | | BAGELS::BRANNON | Dave Brannon | Tue Oct 09 1990 00:15 | 8 |
| re:.8
I'll second that, go visit Radio Shack. You really have to see how
bad a color monitor with awful dot pitch can be. I used to think the
dot pitch didn't really matter much, since the only monitors I'd seen had
a reasonable dot pitch.
Dave
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4038.10 | | EUCLID::OWEN | Rent-to-own a clue | Tue Oct 09 1990 11:42 | 9 |
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What's the 'going price' for an NEC Multisync 3D (good choice?) and a
filckerfixer.
Are there any combo mail order deals?
Thanks,
Steve
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4038.11 | | NSSG::SULLIVAN | Steven E. Sullivan | Tue Oct 09 1990 13:55 | 5 |
| Last I saw was about $625 at a computer show.
I like my Diamondscan better than my 3D for mixed media and video related
work. The variety of inputs and input modes are a real feature.
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4038.12 | | WHAMMY::SPODARYK | Elvis has just left the building! | Tue Oct 09 1990 14:01 | 6 |
| The Diamondscan does have more flexible video capabilities, but the
NEC 3d has a slighly better looking display (my opinion), and a much
better looking case, control access, etc. Both are good choices, depending
on what you need.
Steve - DiamondScan+VCR also doubles as a great 14" TV.
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4038.13 | | LEDS::ACCIARDI | Probing the limits of adhesion | Tue Oct 09 1990 16:10 | 6 |
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NEC 3D - $569 is you look through Computer Shopper carefully.
FlickerFixer - $375 if you look through AmigaWorld carefully.
Ed.
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4038.14 | Inverted odd-even order raster | MKODEV::OSBORNE | | Thu Jan 23 1992 12:22 | 31 |
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After using a Samsung multisync for a couple years, I have just discovered a
problem. I use hi-res so little, I never noticed it before.
In hi-res, the odd and even raster lines are inverted. Instead of:
1
2
3
4...
The monitor is displaying
2
1
4
3...
This is definately the monitor, not the Amiga. It could be caused by
incompetent hookup wiring by an inexperienced hardware person, namely me,
or may be a problem of the monitor. The Amiga works fine feeding a 1084S.
Since the flyback transformer is whining, I thought I'd get it serviced
anyway, but would like to know the probable cause of the raster line
inversion, particularly if it's the hookup cable.
Also, anyone know of a good video repair shop that can service the Samsung
in the Nashua, NH area?
Thanks
John
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