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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

3974.0. "ITEMS WANTED" by MSVAX::BARRETT (This is my brain on Notes.) Mon Jul 30 1990 23:22

    There's been a FOR SALE topic for quite some time, but I didn't
    see a WANTED topic; so I thought I'd start one. Mr Moderator; feel
    free to move this if there is a more appropriate location.

    Items posted here should be deleted when satisified. All responses
    should be sent via EMAIL, not replies.
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3974.2composite video for 2000STAR::SLACKTue Jul 31 1990 10:298
    OK, I want one of those CMI boards that gives you composite color video
    from your 2000. I know these boards must be like hen's teeth, but I
    need a solution cheaper than buying a genlock.
    
    Suggestions welcome.
    
    Bill Slack
    
3974.3May Have One for YaDICKNS::MACDONALDVAXELN - Realtime Software PubsTue Jul 31 1990 12:045
    
    I may have one for sale ... lemme check. I put a genlock in last year,
    and took out the CMI.
    
    Paul
3974.4Need 1.3 Kickstart ROMWBC::BAKERMutants on the BountyTue Jul 31 1990 12:3019
	I'm going mad looking for a 1.3 Kickstart ROM.  I've finally
	got a nice, sexy autobootable controller in my 2000, but I
	can't take full advantage of it without the 1.3 ROM.  

	The local dealers are of two varieties:  "Yes, we have it in
	stock; it costs $75, but there's no installation charge;" and
	"Yes, we have it in stock; it's $50, but we have to do the
	installation."

	My favorite mail-order houses, Safe Harbor and the GrapeVine
	Group, both say that Commodore is shipping the little beasties
	"erratically," which doesn't sound good.

	Does anyone have an extra 1.3 ROM they'd sell me ?  Or do you
	know of someplace that will ship me one for a reasonable price ?

	Thanks,
	 Art
3974.6WJG::GUINEAUTue Jul 31 1990 13:155
I have an A2090(a) and will soon be selling an A2620 w/ 4MB 32 bit ram.

Mail me on the 2090a...

john
3974.7Controllers wanted.AYOV28::ATHOMSONC'mon, git aff! /The Kelty ClippieWed Aug 01 1990 17:2914
    I am looking for a couple of SCSI controllers, either 1 for the A2000
    and 1 for the A500 or 2 for the A500.
    
    The simpler (& cheaper) the better, (they don't have to have space for
    more ram or anything like that...)
    
    If possible I'd like the A2000 one to be a A2090 or A2090(a) because
    I've an ST506 drive too.
    
    I'd also be grateful for any comments on A500 SCSI controllers, best,
    worst, cheapest, most expensive, fastest, slowest etc...
    
    
    				Alan T.
3974.8A2091/A590ULTRA::KINDELBill Kindel @ BXB1Thu Aug 02 1990 10:3317
    Re .7:
    
>   If possible I'd like the A2000 one to be a A2090 or A2090(a) because
>   I've an ST506 drive too.
    
    Actually, you want the A2091, since the A2090 models implemented SCSI
    wrong.  The A2091 fixes the problem, which SERIOUSLY degraded system
    performance under certain circumstances.
                                                     
>   I'd also be grateful for any comments on A500 SCSI controllers, best,
>   worst, cheapest, most expensive, fastest, slowest etc...
    
    I'm quite pleased with the A590, which provides a built-in 20MB ST506
    drive (that you can replace with a SCSI drive), true DMA (as opposed to
    several of its competitors), and sockets for up to 2MB of expansion RAM
    (it uses 4x256K CMOS).  It's the logical equivalent of the A2091, but
    packaged in a unit that matches the A500's lines.
3974.9WJG::GUINEAUThu Aug 02 1990 10:3712
>>   If possible I'd like the A2000 one to be a A2090 or A2090(a) because
>>   I've an ST506 drive too.
>    
>    Actually, you want the A2091, since the A2090 models implemented SCSI
>    wrong.  The A2091 fixes the problem, which SERIOUSLY degraded system
>    performance under certain circumstances.

Actually, they implemented SCSI ok. It was the way they implemented DMA across 
the Zorro bus that caused it to have trouble when the custiom chips took
up all the bandwidth (like with hires overscan or something like that).

john
3974.10SupraSCSI500/SupraRam/Adaptec4000ADECWET::DAVISLucid dreamingThu Aug 02 1990 13:027
  In a couple of weeks I will have a Suprascsi500(w 2MB ram) for sale.
I just purchased the new Supra 500XP which allows for 8Mb ram
expansion.  I also have an Adaptec4000A I might be willing to part with.
I will probably price the SCSI controller at $130.00, the ram at $230.00, and
the Adaptec at $125.00.  

Mark 
3974.11Archon patch found?MSVAX::BARRETTI will not skateboard in the hallsThu Aug 02 1990 15:3716
	In reference to the ARCHON patch I was looking for, I came up with the
    following information:
    
    
	The "fixarchon" program on abcfd20.larc.nasa.gov (the replacement
machine for xanth.cs.odu.edu; 128.155.23.64) allows Archon to run fine on
my A1000 under KS 1.3, with expansion memory.

    
    
    Does anyone have this or can obtain it for me? Also; if it is in
    "SHAR" format, could you unshar it also (I've never had good luck
    doing that). Thanks!!!!
    
    
    					Keith
3974.12GOBAMA::WILSONTLTony, the HOSS TRUMPETMon Aug 06 1990 14:297
    If anyone has patch info on ARCHON, please post it and upload the
    associated files, if possible.  The game, tho' antiquated by today's
    standards, is still interesting.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Tony
3974.13re: -1NAVIER::MELLITZTue Aug 07 1990 08:443
    re: -1
    
    ditto
3974.14MSVAX::BARRETTMost useful white thing at homeTue Aug 07 1990 10:393
    I placed a notice about what may be the patch in reply .11 - can
    someone (who I assume would have to have ftp ability) upload this
    for us? The notice I left was from a very recent USENET posting.
3974.15WJG::GUINEAUTue Aug 07 1990 12:595
wjg::amiga:fixarchon.zoo

have a blast...

john
3974.16MSVAX::BARRETTI will not instigate revolutionTue Aug 07 1990 15:296
    Yeahh. Once again John comes through.
    
    Thanks - I'll let you know if it works.
    
    
    Keith
3974.17Wanted: ST-506 drivesMSVAX::BARRETTBe Excellent to each otherWed Aug 08 1990 15:5417
    Wanted:
    
    ST506 2.5" disk of ANY capacity
    
    and/or
    
    RD32 (ST-225 ST506 40 meg I believe) drive
    
    (Can't offer much $$; basically looking for someone not needing
    old ST-506 drives and would like to make a couple of bucks on it.
    I just gave away a 20meg 5.25" drive, so I know that high capacities,
    SCSI, and lack of mounting space can create these possibilities).

        Drives must function and be usable on 2090 controller.
    
    
    				Keith
3974.18WJG::GUINEAUWed Aug 08 1990 16:398
   
 >   ST506 2.5" disk of ANY capacity
 
2.5" Good  Luck! They are still REAL prototype at this point!

if 3.5" is ok, I have a 40MB rodime for you...

john
3974.19MSVAX::BARRETTI did not see ElvisWed Aug 08 1990 18:3711
>        ST506 2.5" disk of ANY capacity

    	OOOOPS. I meant 3.5", sorry.
    
    I posted this for a friend. I should point out that he is looking
    to spend around $75 at most on this. He's hoping that between flea markets
    and 10-20meg ST506 drives that people don't need, that he can pick
    up something to give his system more than the 5.25" 20meg he has.
    He's looking to either add a 3.5" with ANY capacity to increase
    the total available space, or replace his 20 meg 5.25" with a bigger one.
3974.20Shadowgate neededBSS::BENNINGSun Aug 12 1990 13:3711
    I need a replacement for my son's Shadowgate. It now gets an error to
    the effect that some block is doubly allocated and to use disk doctor
    to fix it.  Disk doctor will delete corrupted files but the first time
    you save it corrupts the disk again.  
    
    I have tried to call the company and get no answer.  I can not find the
    game locally and when I tried the mail order houses they have none and
    say they went out of business.
    
    If anyone has one they are not using any more and want to sell please
    let me know as I have one smarter but sad son.                
3974.21Fix Archon Works!MCDONL::BARRETTI must not waste bandwidthSun Aug 12 1990 20:3114
    
    I tried the FixArchon patch -- it works great! It says it 
    requires external RAM. I don't know what that
    means exactly (perhaps someone could clarify). In my fatter Agnus
    3 meg system (which I assume it disabled the 2 meg fastram to work), it
    worked fine.
        
    It does produce a strange screen of white garbage when the archon
    disk is first booted; but after a couple of seconds that vanishes
    and the "EA" logo appears.
    
    Thanks John - one item crossed off my list.
    
    Keith
3974.22Looking for KEYHACK, CHERRY3WBC::BAKERMutants on the BountyWed Aug 15 1990 10:478
	I'm looking for a copy of either KEYHACK or CHERRY3. Both are
	programs which fix a timing problem that occurs when using (old)
	A2000 Cherry keboards in combination with an '030 accelerator,
	1.2 Kickstart ROMSs, and the SetCPU FASTROM option.

	Thanks,
	 ~art
3974.23Basic 2000 system wantedMSVAX::BARRETTA Holy owned subsidiary of GodMon Aug 20 1990 12:574
    I have a friend looking for a basic 2000 system and an ST506/SCSI
    controller (harddrive itself not needed). His finances are such
    that he can offer about $1000 for the system, $100 for the controller,
    and maybe some extra for additional memory, etc.
3974.24Looking for a monitorCSC32::J_PARSONSGeorge Stark: Not A Very Nice GuyWed Sep 12 1990 02:436
    If anyone has a color monitor they're looking to sell, I might be in
    the market for one. Apparently my 1084S is beyond the limits of
    feasible repair. Please send mail if you have a monitor you want to get
    rid sell.
    
    Jack
3974.25Looking for A2620 (used)BOMBE::MOOREEat or be eatenWed Sep 12 1990 17:414
    In a week or so I expect to be in the market for an A2620.  If anybody
    is upgrading to an 030 and wants to sell their old one, let me know.
    
    Thanks.
3974.26Memory board...COMICS::HOGGANNo, I am not kidding !!!Mon Sep 17 1990 09:196
    I'm looking for a memory expansion board for my A2000(Rev4.0) - either
    populated or unpopulated....
    
    Can anyone help?  
    
    Dave. 
3974.27Don't get the SUPRaram boardBSS::CALLAGHANlast hymn is sung, Devil cries MOREMon Sep 17 1990 17:539
    
    If you have a 2090a disk controller AVOID the SUPRAram 2000. Its
    controller collides with the 2090a (but not the 2091). This was
    the conclusion of SUPRA after them working on the problem for
    me. (took around 3 wks)
    
    Recommend the Microbotics Memory 
    
    						Jack
3974.28Help with new Hardframe softwareLODGE::LENDavid M. LenTue Sep 18 1990 00:377
    I currently own a Microbotics Hardframe 2000 hard disk controller.  I
    don't have an account on Plink to download the new HDprep software. 
    Would someone please upload it to the net?  There must be someone on
    the net that has the new version.
    
    If someone has a problem uploading, but is willing to try and help me
    out, please give me a call at my work number (614) 898-6116.  Thanks.
3974.29It's not on PLINKLEDS::ACCIARDILarger than life, and twice as uglyTue Sep 18 1990 08:076
    
    I have an account on PLINK, and checked high and low for ANY
    MicroBotics software.  I couldn't find a thing.  I used MICROBOTICS
    HARDFRAME DRIVER SCSI as keywords and came up with a blank.
    
    Ed.
3974.30MSVAX::BARRETTI must not waste chalkTue Sep 18 1990 09:318
    Re: SupraRAM
    
    I've used SupraRAM 2000 with the 2090 and 2090A -- no problems;
    this was in Rev 4.1, 4.5, and 6.2B motherboards. As far as I know;
    the problems only exist in Rev 6.0 and 6.1 motherboards. I'd recomend
    it under these circumstances.

        Keith
3974.31SCSI Ctrl'r for A500TOMTOM::FINDLAYThu Sep 20 1990 10:5214
    I'm looking for a SCSI controller for an A500, somthing like a
    SupraSCSI-500 (ie. preferably with some room for a bit of RAM). 
    
    I'm in the Ayr plant in Scotland and am prepared to pay shipping etc..
    for the right thing at the right price.
    
    Any offers ?
    
    Please mail direct to TIZER::FINDLAY
    
    Thanks in anticipation
    
    TomF.
    
3974.32I'm looking for an inexpensive XT BridgeboardMSVAX::BARRETTExperience Far Fig Newton?Thu Sep 20 1990 11:350
3974.33BOMBE::MOOREEat or be eatenThu Sep 20 1990 18:583
    re: Bridgeboard
    
    Can't wait to try Prodigy, eh?           ;-D
3974.34MSVAX::BARRETTThey're laughing at me not with meThu Sep 20 1990 22:0913
    Re: -.1

    Yeah, just couldn't resist the ability to buy from sears via modem
    instead of taking the long 5 minute trek to the nearest store ;-)
        
    
    No, actually the problem is that my XT bridgeboard decided it was
    time to pass on. It's acting flaky and producing constant PROM checksum
    errors. It's a very old rev (has wired ECO's on the back), so I'm
    looking for a replacement. It's amazing, but all my hardware seemed
    to fail about the same time. First the motherboard, then the ST506,
    and now the XT board. Hope this doesn't happen again in another
    3.5 years.
3974.35mono->color compositeWHAMMY::SPODARYKdigging for fireMon Oct 22 1990 11:377
I'm looking for one of those little devices that will produce color-composite
output.  I want to record some demos to videotape, and this is the easiest 
solution (the other being a genlock). 

I believe that Commodore (A520) makes one, as well as several third parties.  

Steve
3974.36Text EditorDECWET::DAVISYou always get what you deserveMon Oct 22 1990 21:535
    I have been using LSE (Lattice Screen Editor) for my text editor and am
    pretty pleased with it except that it doesn't toggle the archive bit of
    an edited file.  Any suggestions on a general purpose text editor?
    
    mark
3974.37The BEST Text EditorENGINE::OWENChocolate Frosted Crunchy Sugar BombsTue Oct 23 1990 08:243
    
    Get CygnusEd.  It's well worth whatever you have to pay for it!
    
3974.38Even better BEST EditorMCDONL::BARRETTThe most useful white thing at homeTue Oct 23 1990 10:592
    Get SEDT (EDT compatible editor) from the ENET. It's worth it's
    price (free) even more!
3974.39DMCSDECWET::DAVISStrength through PeaceThu Apr 04 1991 13:533
    Anyone want to sell DMCS?  I would like the latest revision.
    
    mark
3974.40Game WantedKALI::PLOUFFAhhh... cider!Thu Apr 04 1991 13:597
    Wanted:  Little Computer People
    
    Very old game, but I saw a report that it works under AmigaDOS 2.0! 
    Will be perfect for my 3 year old.
    
    Wes Plouff
    DTN 223-2677
3974.41Looking for Amidock.lzhDECWET::DAVISyou always get what you deserveTue Apr 30 1991 20:074
    Anyone have "Amidock.lzh" by ????
    
    mark
    
3974.42NOTIBM::MCGHIEThank Heaven for small Murphys !Tue Apr 30 1991 21:223
Check the latest uploaded Fish Disks, I think I saw it in one of the archives.

Mike
3974.43TAPE::AMIGA:[UPLOAD]FF474.LZHDWOMV2::CAMPBELLDelaware AmiganTue Apr 30 1991 23:381
    
3974.44HARD DISK PLUS ASSOCIATED BITS FOR A500 WANTEDAYOV27::CWILLMy sandwich is empty...Thu May 02 1991 11:1426
    				WANTED
    				------

    I REALLY want a Hard Disk for my A500

    I would like a 20-100mb HD with the required interface / controller and 
    for the A500 preferably with     some additional RAM or at least the 
    capacity for loading additional RAM.
    
    As I am a bit of a klutz when it comes to Hardware I would much
    appreciate the accompanying documentation.

    I am in the UK and can be contacted on :

    E-MAIL AYOV18::CWILL
    ALL-IN-1 Will.c @AYO

    Work phone no 823 4197
    Home phone no 0297 281393

    Regards,
       Chris


    
3974.45 --- Wanted ST506 Controlller -- --- wanted ST506 controller -- wanted ST506 controllerMEALA::MERLEHANThu May 02 1991 12:0329
    
    
    				WANTED
    				------
    
    
    	Hard disk controller with cables/manual/software for ST506 type drive.
    
    	I have recently bought an A2000 so my budget is almost shot... I am
    
    	looking for something like a 2/3 year old card that has depreciated
    
    	to what is left of my budget.  I am located in Ireland where AMIGA
    
    	hardware prices are astronomical e.g. ext floppy drive = $200.
    
    	I saw earlier in this notes file someone acquire an A2090 for $50,
    
    	prices in that area do not exist this side of the Atlantic.
    
    
    Regards
    
    		Colm
    
    
    	
    
    	
3974.46Wanted: 1.3 Rom Kernal ManualsMR4DEC::GAYUnderground living can be Hobbit formingMon Jun 03 1991 10:387
    
    Wanted: 1.3 RKMs.
    
    If any of you power users that have moved on to 2.0 have a set of
    1.3 RKMs hanging around, this is your chance to unload 'em.
    
    Eben Gay
3974.47Monitor Wanted..... COMICS::HOGGANNo, I am not kidding !!!Fri Aug 02 1991 04:565
Hi,

Anyone selling a colour monitor for the Ami? What sort of asking price?

dave
3974.48yesSAUTER::SAUTERJohn SauterFri Aug 02 1991 09:493
    Henry Arendt is selling one for $100 plus shipping.  See 8.366 for
    details.
        John Sauter
3974.49FULL HEIGHT DUAL DRIVE ENCLOSUREDECWET::DAVISMark W. Davis 206.865.8749Thu Aug 22 1991 15:294
    I am looking for a full height, dual drive enclosure with power supply.
    If you have one I will buy it.
    
    mark
3974.50heres one onlySALEM::LEIMBERGERFri Aug 23 1991 06:108
    Mark,
    	System Eyes has one in the back room. Last I knew it even had a
    scsi cable. it is very much like the ones we use here to hols removable
    canisters. John Sauter is working there today(Steve is off to
    the Poconos). Call john and see what he says. It is not a normal item,
    so it never sees the showroom floor. If the cable is missing have them
    look around the desk area.
    							bill
3974.51SyquestKERNEL::HOGGANDFri Aug 23 1991 13:016
    Hi,
    
    Anyone with a Syquest 44mb removable hd out there they've tired of???
    
    Dave
    
3974.52VERGA::MACDONALDHome of Digital Realtime PubsFri Aug 23 1991 13:443
    RE: .49
    
    Have you tried the Employee Surplus Store in Contoocook?
3974.53Details about Employee Surplus Store? TERSE::ROBINSONFri Aug 23 1991 15:247
> Have you tried the Employee Surplus Store in Contoocook?

Please explain what you know (or who to contact) about this.
I'd like to pick up a lj252 printer eventually.

Thanks,
Dave
3974.54DOO does non-computer stuff only...SMURF::COOLIDGEBayard, ULTRIX CSSE 381-0503 ZKO3Fri Aug 23 1991 17:069
    
    Better check the Live Wire (and DTW/NH View/Today) article(s) about
    it - they clearly specify NON-computer stuff only. (E.g., desks, etc.)
    
    There are a number of electronic surplus houses in Southern NH, and
    there are a couple of flea markets coming up - Sept 14th or 15th in
    Contoocook, and October 5th in Deerfield.
    
    
3974.55not computer stuffSALEM::LEIMBERGERMon Aug 26 1991 06:484
    re.49
    I was told the current stuff available is all non computer related.
    desks, chairs etc
    								bill
3974.56Please post details (or pointer to them)TLE::ALIVE::ASHFORTHLord, make me an instrument of thy peaceMon Aug 26 1991 08:476
Re .54:

Please post details on these dates, or a pointer to where they can be obtained.
(Like, is that Deerfield in NH or Mass.?)

Bob
3974.57KALI::PLOUFFDevoted to his LawnMon Aug 26 1991 11:461
    For DEC property disposal sales, type $VTX PDCSTORE
3974.58Deerfield, New Hampsha...SMURF::COOLIDGEBayard, ULTRIX CSSE 381-0503 ZKO3Mon Aug 26 1991 14:169
    
    re .54 et seq.
    
    Sorry, that's Deerfield, NH.
    
    Details are in the CVG::HAMRADIO conference, but I don't have the
    appropriate Note number handy.
    
    
3974.59Wanted: A2500AKOFIN::TANGWhat!,..... me worry?Fri Sep 27 1991 19:2858
Greetings,

	I am placing this notice for my boss, who's son is looking for an
	Amiga as he is going to some kind of Art/Design program at college. ;-p
	The following information has been passed down to me from boss/son/prof
	in that order. Apparently, most of the students have found the following
	configuration to be acceptable. I don't know anything about Amigas,
	if it were about DEC equipment or PC-compatibles, I could have at least
	understood what is wanted here:

Sought:
	Amiga 2500 with at least a 40Mb drive.  (so far, I can follow this ;-) )
	Raster graphics (? is this software or hardware? or just a description
			of the kind of graphics the monitor provides? if H/W, is
			this the standard C= 1080/1902 monitors? is the VR241 
			useable w/cable mods to drive RGB/sync inputs?)
	
	Gen 2000 board  (is this an accelerator board? is this known by another
			name? is this a 68030 board? or completely different?)
			Is this the same as Supergen? what is Supergen?
	
	I've read some, as many notes as can be read in one work day, and it
	appears that some local excess Dec equipment might be able to be used
	with a little work/mods........RDxx disks, LA50/75/100 printers, maybe
	even an LN03 PSprinter or just a straight LN03? and VR241 is okay, but 
	maybe not the VR291?


	But, after all is said and done, what my boss needs is to purchase a
	system for his 18 y.o. son to use, not really for him to piece meal
	together. So, if anyone is willing to provide more info on this, please
	do so, all will be appreciated. 

	Info such as what would this config roughly go for new? used/2nd hand?
	He's gotten some quote ~ $US 5200 for new and ~ $US 2750 for used! :-(
	Also, if anyone has such a config or willing to sell equipment/software
	that would contribute to making this config, I'm sure the boss would
	be willing to consider such offers. Again, thanks for your patience
	as I am not at all familiar with C= Amigas. 

	One last thing, it occurs to me that even a lower model such as A1000
	or even A500 might be able to be upgraded to near A2500 level. Is
	this true? is it fairly doable? Would it be less expensive or more so?
	and would this provide more headaches in migrating upward than it is
	worth? I take it from what little I've read that an A3000 is some kind
	of bounded system not really preferable for expandability, while at
	least the A2000 could be expanded more readily? not so?


thanks and best regards,


-gabe





3974.60More information please...CRISTA::CAPRICCIOGarth, take your Ritalin...Sat Sep 28 1991 03:1153
�	Raster graphics (? is this software or hardware? or just a description

    Beats me...
	
�	Gen 2000 board  (is this an accelerator board? is this known by another
�			name? is this a 68030 board? or completely different?)
�			Is this the same as Supergen? what is Supergen?

    I'd say it is probably the Supergen 2000 (genlock). The 2500 already has
    an accelerator board in it (A2630 in the A2500/30; do they still sell
    A2620's?).

�	I've read some, as many notes as can be read in one work day, and it

    FWIW, I beleive I saw a utility in the Toolshed ($ VTX TOOLSHED) that
    allows you to do a VAXnotes "search" in batch mode. This might help you
    out a bit when traversing this conference; helps find things that a
    "dir/title=" and/or keywords won't find.

�	Info such as what would this config roughly go for new? used/2nd hand?
�	He's gotten some quote ~ $US 5200 for new and ~ $US 2750 for used! :-(

    This sounds rather steep to me, so I'd shop around. BTW, since he (the
    "son") is/will be a student, he should be eligible for CBM's educational
    discount, which is quite good (it's still available, isn't it?). That
    info is in here somewhere...

�	One last thing, it occurs to me that even a lower model such as A1000
�	or even A500 might be able to be upgraded to near A2500 level. Is
�	this true? is it fairly doable? Would it be less expensive or more so?

    While this method can be a lot cheaper, it's not nearly as seamless as
    having an A2xxx box with lots of slots and a pretty hefty power supply.
    If the owner loves to tinker with hardware, itsa blast, but for the
    turn-key user, the A2xxx is the way to go. Also, the latter has a video
    slot built in, which is required for things like the Supergen 2000.

�	worth? I take it from what little I've read that an A3000 is some kind
�	of bounded system not really preferable for expandability, while at
�	least the A2000 could be expanded more readily? not so?

    Yes and no. While currently there's a few cards that won't fit in the
    A3000 that do fit in the A2000 (the Video Toaster seems to be a popular
    example), the A3000 has a lot to offer, especially if he can somehow
    qualify for the "Power-Up" program (discussed lots of places in here).

    If you can, try to get a more specific description (hardware and
    software) of the system that he is looking for; that will quickly
    narrow things down.

    Hope this helps,

    Pete
3974.61Use the Educational DiscountULTRA::KINDELBill Kindel @ LTN1Mon Sep 30 1991 10:2667
    Re .59:                    -< Wanted: A2500 >-

Greetings,                                                     

>   I am placing this notice for my boss, who's son is looking for an
>   Amiga as he is going to some kind of Art/Design program at college. ;-p
>   The following information has been passed down to me from boss/son/prof
>   in that order. Apparently, most of the students have found the following
>   configuration to be acceptable. I don't know anything about Amigas,
>   if it were about DEC equipment or PC-compatibles, I could have at least
>   understood what is wanted here:
>
>   Sought:
>   	Amiga 2500 with at least a 40Mb drive.  (so far, I can follow this ;-) )
>   	Raster graphics (? is this software or hardware? or just a description
>   		of the kind of graphics the monitor provides? if H/W, is
>   		this the standard C= 1080/1902 monitors? is the VR241 
>   		useable w/cable mods to drive RGB/sync inputs?)
>   
>   	Gen 2000 board  (is this an accelerator board? is this known by another
>   		name? is this a 68030 board? or completely different?)
>   		Is this the same as Supergen? what is Supergen?
>   
>   I've read some, as many notes as can be read in one work day, and it
>   appears that some local excess Dec equipment might be able to be used
>   with a little work/mods........RDxx disks, LA50/75/100 printers, maybe
>   even an LN03 PSprinter or just a straight LN03? and VR241 is okay, but 
>   maybe not the VR291?
>
>   But, after all is said and done, what my boss needs is to purchase a
>   system for his 18 y.o. son to use, not really for him to piece meal
>   together. So, if anyone is willing to provide more info on this, please
>   do so, all will be appreciated. 
    
    My son is in the process of buying an Amiga 2000 through a local dealer
    using the educational discount.  By that price list, the A2500/50
    (which has BOTH M68000 and 16MHz M68020 CPUs, 5MB RAM, and a 50MB
    SCSI hard disk) costs $2687, NEW.  On the other hand, the A3000-25/50
    (which starts with 2MB of RAM, upgradable to 18MB, a 25MHz M68030 CPU,
    and the same 50MB hard disk on a 32-bit SCSI controller) costs $2547,
    also NEW.  There's a genlock available (not on the list in front of me,
    because my son wasn't interested in it) for $100 or so.  The "standard"
    Commodore 1084S monitor runs $282.
    
>   Info such as what would this config roughly go for new? used/2nd hand?
>   He's gotten some quote ~ $US 5200 for new and ~ $US 2750 for used! :-(
>   Also, if anyone has such a config or willing to sell equipment/software
>   that would contribute to making this config, I'm sure the boss would
>   be willing to consider such offers. Again, thanks for your patience
>   as I am not at all familiar with C= Amigas. 

    We'd be HAPPY to make you a convert. 8^)  Something's TERRIBLY wrong
    with the quote -- could it be that there's some MAJOR component
    missing?
    
>   One last thing, it occurs to me that even a lower model such as A1000
>   or even A500 might be able to be upgraded to near A2500 level. Is
>   this true? is it fairly doable? Would it be less expensive or more so?
>   and would this provide more headaches in migrating upward than it is
>   worth? I take it from what little I've read that an A3000 is some kind
>   of bounded system not really preferable for expandability, while at
>   least the A2000 could be expanded more readily? not so?
    
    Indeed, the A500 can be stretched to meet these needs.  You're working
    "outside the design envelope" to do so.  (Adding a 3rd party CPU card
    in place of the standard M68000 is common, but sometimes conflicts with
    other expansions in addition to voiding the A500 warranty.)
3974.63Flight Simulator II RIPPIANST::JANZENLove looks not with the eyesTue Oct 29 1991 14:259
	Hi. I spoke to SubLogic in Illinois last night; they have no more
	scenery disk for Flight Simulator II, but they will sell you
	Flight Simulator II.  I should have bought the scenery while I could.
	If anyone has FSII scenery other than Western Europe, I will 
	negotiate buying it.
	has anyone reverse-engineered the scenery disk?
	I had heard a toolkit was being prepared but was cancelled.
	I have started trying to disassemble it.  I may not have the patience.
	Tom (Hudson & Maynard Mass).
3974.64CSEXP1::ANDREWSI&#039;m the NRAFri Jan 03 1992 09:289
    Hello,
    
    I would like to buy a copy of SimCity... Anyone have one hanging around
    they aren't using anymore?  Borrowed it from a friend, and he wants it
    back soon...8-(
    
    Pls send mail, only way to be sure I get the message.
    
    Rob