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3957.1 | | CLO::COBURN | Growing older, but not up... | Wed Jul 25 1990 15:27 | 11 |
| I am not positive but I believe that WPS+ requires at least a VT102 (or
a terminal that has line/char insert features).
There are at least 2 emulators for the Amiga that claim VT200
compatibility - Smokey and Handshake. Either of these should work (I
haven't tried them, though). Smokey is a good emulator for VT200.
Also, Meshugena claims VT200 compatibility (no download capability - so
it is just an emulator). All of these are available on TAPE or WJG.
John
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3957.2 | Should be, but should experiment | KALI::PLOUFF | It came from the... dessert! | Wed Jul 25 1990 15:32 | 16 |
| Probably yes. There are several different VT100 terminal emulators
available which conform to the published VT100 spec. However, many
Digital software packages take advantage of undocumented (at least in
public) features of the VT100. The worst that should happen is that
some screens may not draw correctly. This may or may not be critical
to you depending on the results.
For instance, I use the public domain program VT100, v2.9B, on my Amiga
2000. When logged in to the VAX at work, running NOTES, the last few
characters of the "nn of nn" block in the upper right hand corner are
often missing or not updated. To me, this is a minor shortcoming.
By the way, using a program called "Kermit" for terminal emulation is,
IMO, using the wrong tool for the job.
Wes
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3957.3 | What is your emulator? | GOBAMA::WILSONTL | Tony, the HOSS TRUMPET | Wed Jul 25 1990 16:50 | 13 |
| You must use something that emulates at least a base level VT100. You
are implying that you are using Kermit, which to my knowledge, does not
emulate anything. If you suspect that your terminal DOES emulate a
VT100, use the DCL command SET TERM/DEVICE=VT100 before invoking
All-in-1. If All-in-1 runs correctly, then suspect the type of
terminal that is being reported back by your emulator when it receives
the SET TERM/INQ request during login. As an alternative, you can
issue the latter DCL command yourself and then SHOW TERM and see what
VMS thinks you have.
You can get the hardcopy version of All-in-1 by SET TERM/DEVICE=UNKNOWN
and then running All-in-1. Most commands are supported, but crudely.
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3957.4 | | PEEVAX::GIFFORD | My dunny was kicked down by chooks! | Wed Jul 25 1990 19:52 | 8 |
| I use VLTjr to communicate from my a1000.
It *DOES* allow me to read my allin1 mail quite nicely.
I can also use the wps editor with no problems.
In addition it has an extremly nice upload/download capability!
Stan.
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3957.5 | Still using Handshake! | LEDS::ACCIARDI | Larger than life, and twice as ugly | Wed Jul 25 1990 22:46 | 8 |
|
Handshake passes all the litmus tests for VT102/VT220 emulation. I
still find it to be the best all-around VT emulator. If only it
supported Zmodem!
Handshake is shareware from Eric Haberfellner.
Ed.
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3957.6 | Handshake is the one | GIDDAY::MORAN | I'm not bad-I'm just drawn that way! | Wed Jul 25 1990 23:06 | 11 |
| I agree with Ed - Handshake is the best for VT220 emulation. It even
handles double height characters. It even supports field service test
characters.
e.g. in echo mode on handshake type '<ESC> # 8' and your screen should
fill up with E's.
All it needs is Zmodem and I would probably use it instead of JRCOMM.
Shaun.
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3957.7 | It works. | SUBURB::MCDONALDA | Old Elysian with a big D.I.C. | Thu Jul 26 1990 06:18 | 27 |
| I hate to admit it, but I use ALL-IN-1 and WPS-PLUS from home on my
Amiga over the dial-in-modem. It works on A2000s and A500s.
The emulator I use is good old SMOKEY - set up in VT100 mode (this is a
limitation of our ACB service, rather than a limitation of SMOKEY).
There is only one major problem with using WPS-PLUS on an Amiga - there
aren't enough funtion keys. From what I can remember, you can forget
about F1 through F20 - if WPS-PLUS uses these.
The keys <Find>, <Insert Here>, <Remove>, <Select>, etc map on to the
Amiga function keys F1 through F6 - one of these days I'll produce a
template for this. If memory serves me correctly, the WPS-PLUS <Help>
and <Do> keys, map on to the Amiga's <Del> and <Help> keys
respectively. The application key pad and PF keys are a 1:1 mapping.
These keys are the only ones I've bothered to discover, as I'm not a
heavy WPS-PLUS user. My incredibly sophisticated method for discovering
this mapping was to press the keys and see what happened.
Once I get AX11 going on my Amiga, a) I can switch to DECwrite, and b)
if I need to I can run A1 via a DECterm window.
VTX using the ALL-IN-1 keypad (Yuk) also works.
Angus
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3957.8 | On my way but having comm problems now. | AIMHI::DEROO | | Fri Aug 03 1990 13:06 | 18 |
| Thanks for all the help so far ! I have found a copy of handshake, got
a amiga 500 to hayes modem cable ( pins1-8, 20, 22 point to point) and
a df112 & df03. I know these modems work because I use them on other
systems. I know the cable is good as I tested it with a meter but.....
I do not get a tr light on the modem when the system is powered up and
when I try using handshakes autodial I get a time out while it looks
for (i think it was) carrier detect (first it said it was dialing then
gave a message saying it was waiting for something).
On all the other systems I have used the tr indicator would light as
soon as the system was powered up. Is it different on the amiga? are
there any tests to indicate a bad serial port? or am I just ignorant
and using the hardware and software improperly?
Any ideas greatly apprieciated and thank for all the help so far.
Ken
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3957.9 | | BOMBE::MOORE | Eat or be eaten | Fri Aug 03 1990 18:03 | 6 |
| I know there are a couple of signals which are not asserted from the
Amiga until the terminal program is loaded. Sorry, I don't remember
specifically whether DTR is one of those, but I *think* it is.
One reason for doing this is to keep the modem from picking up incoming
calls just because the computer happens to be on...
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3957.10 | | MSVAX::BARRETT | I will not skateboard in the halls | Fri Aug 03 1990 18:09 | 7 |
| Yes, DTR is aserted when the communication program starts up. Are
you able to confirm that the modem is indeed dialing the number?
If it is, then the problem may simply be one of carrier detection
or DSR. I don't remember if handshake has any configuration options
or not. I used SMOKEY myself and never have had a problem with
hayes types or scholars.
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3957.11 | Slap it in the face with CTRL/B | GOBAMA::WILSONTL | Tony, the HOSS TRUMPET | Mon Aug 06 1990 15:38 | 11 |
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> I do not get a tr light on the modem when the system is powered up and
--
If you mean the DTR, that is normal until you start HANDSHAKE, at which
time it should come on. Wait for HANDSHAKE to finish initialization,
then try the old ctrl/B sequence for which Digital modems are so
(in)famous. I use a Scholar, so I'm not familiar with the modems you
mention, but I'm sure they don't possess the intelligence the Hayes
modems do (or others of that ilk).
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3957.12 | I have carrier detect but the system doesn't know it | AIMHI::DEROO | | Tue Aug 07 1990 10:43 | 13 |
| Thanks for all the help so far.
I now have dtr and the system dials in and I get a carrier signal only
the computer/modem/software doesn't seem to know it. When I press the
data/talk button and listen on the phone I hear the carrier but
handshake will have been telling me it was " waiting for carrier
detect ". I have a feeling that it's in my serial port / handshake
setup parameters but haven't yet found it.
But thanks to everyones help I am making a lot of progress on this.
Thanks alot-
Ken
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3957.13 | | MSVAX::BARRETT | Most useful white thing at home | Tue Aug 07 1990 10:58 | 3 |
| If all else fails you might try changing the cable so that the CD
line on the Amiga end is tied to the DTR or DSR line of the modem.
That will "force" CD anytime the modem is functioning.
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