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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

3604.0. "Capture Cartridge for amiga" by SHARE::DOYLE () Thu Mar 22 1990 11:16

	The new Amiga World issue brought me a blast from the past.
	Any old 64,128'ers out there?
	Remember the "Utility Cartridge War"?
	Well Coast to Coast Technologies (aka Datel) has brought out the
	Amiga Action Replay... A cartridge utility that fits on the Amiga
	500 expansion bus.
	 List of features...

   1.) Freeze Program

   2.) Save Entire Program in memory to disk, special compacting techniques
      enable upto 3 programs on one floppy. Unique FDOS power means that the 
      programs will load up to 4 times faster independently of cartridge.

   3.) Unique Infinite life/trainer mode, Allows you to generate more and even
      infinite lives,fuel,ammo,etc. 

   4.) Sprite Editor - the full sprite editor allows you to view/modify the 
	whole sprite set including any attached sprites.

   5.) Virus Detection- detects viruses to date.

   6.) save picture and music to disk in iff format

   7.) Slow motion mode- slows down program for good scores
	Good for tight spots.
 
   8.) restart frozen program exactly where you left off.

   9.) Full status reporting at a keypress, fast ram,chip ram,ramdisk,disk 
       status.

   10.) Full M68000 assembler/dissasembler.... etc.

	Price $103.00 incl. s/h

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	My comments... Will this work on a buss pass through?
		       
	I like the idea of being able to save games from stupid format
        to a normal format,(unless you use thier Fdos of course)that makes it
	installable to hard disk, an attach an icon to it.
  	The 64 version (Action Replay v5) also compressed it's captured
	files, this was a very reliable option on it, and disk space is
	always a premium...
	
	It's all a bit pricey though...
	
	The C-64 version did this and more, for around $50-$60 bucks.
	I wonder if we'll end up having "Amiga Super Snapshot Cartidge" and
	"Amiga Final Cartridges" as well. 	
							Ed

  
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3604.1BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonFri Mar 23 1990 00:216
    I saw the ad too.  It was worded like the descriptions of things
    that hang off a C64 user port.  If I recall correctly, it referred
    to the Amiga expansion port.  Didn't sound like it has a pass-thru,
    after all it's just a port, not a bus :-)
    
    -Dave
3604.2more than one brandSALEM::LEIMBERGERFri Mar 23 1990 04:129
 	Steve at system Eyes bought another vendors version back from
    amiEXpo in Washington last week.I own a 2000 so i was not interested
    enough to look into it.However it appears that we are in for a rash
    of such products. It will be interesting to see how this market
    develops.Of course this will add fuel to the pirate wars.While you
    have the right to backup a product,I have never ever seen a copyright
    that did not state explicity that altering,dissasembling,ect of
    the software was prohibited.
    								bill
3604.3FILTON::FENTON_RPotassium Ethoxide Rules C2H5OOKFri Mar 23 1990 09:008
    The other thing is, of course, that if you save it to a standard
    format using this type of technique it won't give you loading screens
    etc. (if you're a perfectionist like me). The other problem is with
    games like "Shadow of the Beast", which need constant access to
    the original disks...
    
    -Rog
    
3604.4LicensesTLE::RMEYERSRandy MeyersFri Mar 23 1990 16:1824
Re: .2

>While you have the right to backup a product, I have never ever seen
>a copyright that did not state explicity that altering,dissasembling,
>ect of the software was prohibited.

You mean a license.

Under copyright law, you have a right to make two "archival" copies
of copyrighted software for the purposes of backup.

Most software manufactures don't like this, so in addition to copyrighting
their works, they only provide them under the terms of a license.  A
license, which is an agreement between two parties, can stipulate almost
any conditions, and one party can agree to give up almost any right.

So, on the back of many software packages, there is printed license
terms like are quoted in .2 along with some statement to the effect that
opening the package constitutes acceptance of the license.

It isn't clear if these "shrink wrap licenses" are legal.  Legal or not,
there are moral and ethical issues that users of software face here.
(Please don't volunteer your personal ethical position here: full blown
discussions of piracy become pretty tedious.)
3604.5ENOVAX::BARRETTBeam me up LordFri Mar 23 1990 17:0119
    My understanding is that these "opening" or "breaking seal" agreements
    are not binding - especially here in Connecticut where the comsumer
    protection laws are very good. There is no proof that the end user
    is the one who broke the seal or that they read and understood the
    terms (the person may not be able to read English for instance), the
    company has no signed or verbal agreement stating acceptance, there is no
    witnessed breaking of the seal or usage of the product, and in some cases
    it can be considered entrapment. I remember hearing of court cases where
    this type of agreement was proved unbinding. It mostly relies on the
    ignorance and fear of the end user.
    
    There are, however, many laws that do prevent the unauthorized
    duplication and distribution of software. These tend to fall into the
    catagory of "loss of potential income", "theft of service", or
    violation of copyright. These are the same concepts that make it
    illegal to pirate cable TV service even though there is no loss of
    funds to the cable company.
    
    I don't know if any of this applies outside of the U.S.