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| 3576.1 | Hold it, that zoo may not be corrupt... | CGOFS::CADAMS | Clint Adams - Calgary, Canada | Mon Mar 12 1990 12:12 | 8 |
| Hi Ed, hows it goin'.
Believe it or not you probably did upload OK, the problem is that VMS
made a fixed 512 file for you when you used RZ on the VAX side and VMS
Zoo hates it. Do a "CVTARC u" to change the zoo file to stream or use
VMSSweep (yuk) to read it. Works for me..
Regards.... Clint
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| 3576.2 | | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Mon Mar 12 1990 12:39 | 8 |
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Ditto RE: .1
Your file is okay. A VAX isn't an Amiga. Likewise if you download
a .ZOO file from the VAX that was ZOO'ed on the VAX, you won't be
able to deZOO it on the Amiga. In other words, if you can list the
ZOO file on the VAX, chances are you won't be able to deZOO it on
your Amiga.
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| 3576.3 | Zmodem = dont' worry about file format... | CGOFS::CADAMS | Clint Adams - Calgary, Canada | Mon Mar 12 1990 13:29 | 8 |
| re: .2
I have found that if I use Zmodem for downloading to the Amiga from the
Vax that I don't have to worry whether the file is fixed or stream. The
file is always OK at the Amiga end. As has been stated many, many, many
times in the past, the above is not the case for Kermit and Xmodem.
Regards... Clint
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| 3576.4 | | TALLIS::MCAFEE | Steve McAfee | Mon Mar 12 1990 16:16 | 5 |
| I agree. ZMODEM works for me regardless of the file format and
regardless of the direction. As noted earlier, you will need
cvtarc to change between formats on the VAX.
- steve
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| 3576.5 | | ENOVAX::BARRETT | Of Optical Mice and Men... | Mon Mar 12 1990 16:29 | 12 |
| What are most people using for a communication program for an upload?
SMOKEY doesn't have ZMODEM, and I have a problem when using
ONLINE! or ONLINE_PLATINUM!:
If I start the sender first (the Amiga), the terminal screen is no
longer active for me to enter my VMS transmit command.
If I start the transmitter first, the program automatically detects
this and tries to receive the file - but with an illegal VMS
filename -- and dies.
Out of the others (VLT, JRCOMM, etc), which works best for VMS uploads?
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| 3576.6 | I thought EVERBODY was already using VLT...;^) | CGOFS::CADAMS | Clint Adams - Calgary, Canada | Mon Mar 12 1990 15:32 | 6 |
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VLT(jr) is by far the best all around terminal emulator, it has terrific
file transfer support, a great 132 font and a review buffer.
Regards... Clint
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| 3576.7 | | BAGELS::BRANNON | Dave Brannon | Mon Mar 12 1990 17:30 | 6 |
| re:.6
I'd use it too if it did vt220 emulation. FOGGY seems to work
fine for me using KERMIT.
-Dave
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| 3576.8 | Fixed! RZ.EXE 155 blocks was bad. | AKOV11::SMITH | Reality, just a visible imagination? | Mon Mar 12 1990 22:45 | 33 |
| Re .1
Hi Clint,
Hows things in CGO. On your suggestion I tried a little experment
using the AMGIF.ZOO file. Doing a DIR/FULL on the VAX showed that this
file was STREAM_LF format, 31 blocks long. A "ZOO l AMGIF" on the VAX
worked fine. I "SZ" the file to Amy, listed and unpacked ok. I then
repacked the same files into AMGIF1.ZOO. I then "RZ"ed it back to the
VAX. A DIR/FULL indicated the file was still STREAM_LF but was now
62 blocks. Trying to list or deZOO the file indicated it was corrupt.
Well I'm not one to give up (and just use XMODEM), so I had another
look at the SZ/RZ versions. I was sure I tried them all! Some time
back I had updated them with what I believed to be a newer version.
It turns out that the older version (by date) works fine. The bottom
line is there appears to be two versions of SZ/RZ floating around.
Doing a "RZ -h" and a "SZ -h" on both versions indicate they are the
same version but the file sizes are different. ie:
SZ.EXE 170 blocks V2.12 Works ok
SZ.EXE 157 blocks V2.12 Works ok
RZ.EXE 155 blocks V2.03 *FAILS*
RZ.EXE 143 blocks V2.03 Works ok
So beware... The larger file size EXE's (also newer by date) appear to be
the source of the problem. If you have had problems with ZMODEM, check
this out.
Thanks for all the replys,
...Ed
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| 3576.9 | | CLO::COBURN | Growing older, but not up... | Tue Mar 13 1990 07:52 | 14 |
| Don't be too positive. I have V3.01 of RZ that I built from source and
it still exhibits the symptoms that you describe.
It seems to occur when the protocol detects an error and has to
retransmit a block - it seems to retransmit every block though.
I haven't used RZ for uploads because the YMODEM stuff is just as fast
(for me anyway) and I don't (or haven't yet) upload much stuff.
Let us know if your version continues to work OK. Everytime I try to
use ZOO in ASHELL while uploading I induce a comm error on the upload.
(All this using VLTjr).
John
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| 3576.10 | Success = 2 for 2 attempts sofar | AKOV11::SMITH | Reality, just a visible imagination? | Tue Mar 13 1990 07:25 | 6 |
| I let you know if it fails. Last nite I tried 4 uploads, 2 with each
version. The larger file size RZ failed each time and the other
worked. I was performing no other work on Amy at the time.
...Ed
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| 3576.11 | Your new versions are old... | CGOFS::CADAMS | Clint Adams - Calgary, Canada | Tue Mar 13 1990 11:21 | 18 |
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> <<< Note 3576.8 by AKOV11::SMITH "Reality, just a visible imagination?" >>>
> -< Fixed! RZ.EXE 155 blocks was bad. >-
Things are just peachy here, Ed.
The version of RZ we run around here is 3.01 (Chuck Forsberg and a date
of 5-25-89 listed after a RZ -h), this is the same executable Wayne
uses to upload Fish disks to our system with astounding reliability.
I'll make it and it's mate SZ (version 3.03) available in
CGOU01::amiga:[new]. These are both compiled ands linked under the VMS
V5.
Regards.... Clint
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| 3576.12 | | TALLIS::MCAFEE | Steve McAfee | Tue Mar 13 1990 12:04 | 13 |
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I've not had any RZ problems and I'm using version 2.02.
re: .8
> file was STREAM_LF format, 31 blocks long. A "ZOO l AMGIF" on the VAX
^^
> 62 blocks. Trying to list or deZOO the file indicated it was corrupt.
^^
Is it possible that the version you have is appending the files?
- steve
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