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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 3532.1 | evidence not strong enough (IMHO) | SAUTER::SAUTER | John Sauter | Tue Feb 27 1990 13:27 | 11 |
| I don't think you have enough evidence to make a credible accusation.
The originator of the software could have prepared his master disk
as a copy. Perhaps when the dealer received the package he found
that one of the kits had a bad disk, and so copied the disk from
another package. That's of questionable legality, but it's not
bad enough to be worth a confrontation.
Of course, it is quite possible that your seemingly reputable dealer
is ripping off the authors of the software, but I don't think you
can prove it (yet).
John Sauter
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| 3532.2 | | LODGE::LEN | David M. Len | Tue Feb 27 1990 13:41 | 3 |
| What is the software product you have. Maybe someone else has the same
product and can check how their disk is labeled.
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| 3532.3 | Pirates don't reproduce original packaging | CSC32::K_APPLEMAN | | Tue Feb 27 1990 16:58 | 22 |
| re .0, .1
I don't think you have an illegal copy. I've seen a lot of pirate
software for sale and I've yet to see anyone go to the bother of
reproducing original labels and packaging. The expense would be too
great to do this on a limited basis. They could make just as much by
selling the original program.
What you have is a disk that has been copied with the standard amigados
copy program (same as dragging one disk icon over another).
Professional pirates never use the standard amigados copy as it is too
slow for thier liking and doesn't do copy protected disks. For
protected disks, they'll use something on the order of Raw Copy, or
Project D or White Lightning. For an unprotected disk, TurboBackup
will work. None of these programs will produce a copy labelled "Copy
of...".
It would be interesting to know the program name and publishers name.
I've never seen a commercial publisher use amigados copy to mass
produce floppies, but it could be that this particular one is.
Ken
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| 3532.4 | | GIDDAY::MORAN | I'm not Bad - I'm just drawn that way! | Tue Feb 27 1990 22:38 | 5 |
| Why don't you contact the publisher of the program to see if your copy
is a legal one or not ???
Shaun.
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| 3532.5 | exit | SALEM::LEIMBERGER | | Wed Feb 28 1990 03:34 | 6 |
| It could be the dealer got a shipment of material that had some
bad disks,and rather than send them back repaired the bad disk by
copying over it. Still this would seem strange because all the dealers
I know use commercial copy programs,and not Amiga dos's copy utility.
bill
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| 3532.6 | | CGOFS::R_RYAN | I used to be a coyote but Im ok nowooo | Wed Feb 28 1990 11:39 | 13 |
| I put this note in because I wasn't sure if this was an
issue or not, it just seemed suspicious. I should have mentioned
the program name ( Omega )... But what company would label a disk
'copy of ""', it just doesn't make sense. I have quite a bit of
software and have never seen a disk come right out of the package
labelled in this manner.
Either its an illegal copy or someone was messing around with it.
Because of .1 to .5 I would tend to believe that this is a re-shrink
wrapped package that was used and/or abused by someone at the store.
I'm still not sure. I think I'll just go yap with them for awhile....
Regards,
Ron
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| 3532.7 | Possible scenario... | HPSCAD::DMCARR | Asleep at the mouse | Wed Feb 28 1990 12:07 | 21 |
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Seems quite possible that a user trying out the software might have
inadvertently written over the disk and the store or the user simply
restored that disk from another working version & forgot to rename it.
Seeing that most disks come out of the box write-enabled, it certainly
could happen. And since most dealers have the capapbility of re-shrink
wrapping titles, you can't tell whether its been used before.
A while back while trying out s/w at the Memory Location on a busy
Saturday, it was pretty difficult for the management to keep
track of what was going on at each machine. I tried out 3 or 4 educ.
s/w packages, making sure that I write protected the disk before
inserting it into the machine. That doesn't mean that all users do
the same. If the s/w attempts to write high scores or whatever back to
the disk, or an unknowing user yanks the disk out of the drive while
the light is on...
I appreciate the ability of trying s/w out before purchasing, but there
is the potential for problems like yours to occur.
-Dom
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| 3532.8 | Odds are ~10:1 - from a non gambler (-: | ULTRA::BURGESS | Abject oriented poverty | Fri Mar 02 1990 13:59 | 10 |
| re .0 Lets make a little game out of this, OK ?
I write the name of your dealer on a slip of paper and put it
in a sealed envelope, you do likewise, but for verification you put
the dealers receipt in the envelope with it. We exchange envelopes,
if the same dealer's name is in both envelopes, you give me $10 - else
I give you $100.
R
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