Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    Re: .0

    Dave,

	Take a look at 3297.11. I've been fiddling around with the
    emacs_pro file & have had only moderate success with it. We can continue
    the emacs discussion there if you like since I've got some updates
    to make to that note since I last entered it.
							-Dom

    
>>    	I'm am also looking for the best printer I can find for about
>>    $400 - $500. Does anyone have any suggestions?
    
  
I am very satisfied with my Epson LQ-850 24-pin printer. I think you can
find them in the $450-$550 range. It has a lot of nice standard features
and quite a few optional features, like the multi-font module and the
cut-sheet feeder.

It comes with a push tractor and tear-off feature, so you don't waste
paper. You can also load single sheets without having to unload the
tractor-fed paper.

You can set the buffer to 0K or 6K (use 0K for Amiga use since the Amiga
is multitasking).

Good quality throughout. Uses nylon or film ribbons. Works nice with
Pagestream and Professional Page.

-Paul

    ...works OK with Pagestream and Professional Page... persumably
    you don't mean in Postscript mode???
    
    -Rog
    

    I have a Panasonic KP-1124 24-pin printer and like it quite a lot.  All
    the usual goodies plus 4 different ways to feed paper: from beneath,
    from the rear, pinch rollar or tractor feed and front single sheet
    feed.  Feeds envelopes from the front very well.  Another plus is that
    the ribbons have an ink bulb in them that after a period of time you
    can activate to extend the ribbon life.
    
    I've seen the price around the $399 range recently.  Whatever printer
    you get, I strongly suggest a 24-pin type as the Letter Quality print
    rivals a typewriter and is much faster than a 9-pin in the NLQ mode.
    
    Ken

< Note 3346.3 by FILTON::FENTON_R "Theres no hair on a seagulls face" >


>>    ...works OK with Pagestream and Professional Page... persumably
>>    you don't mean in Postscript mode???
    
Both Pagestream and Professional Page can output to dot-matrix printers
using outline fonts. The output is a duplicate of the PostScript laser
output. The LQ-850 can print at 360x360 dpi.    

    Paul,
    	I own a Citizen 140gs printer that will also output 300 by 300.
    However I am using the EpsonQ driver,and in the printer reference
    section of the 1.3 manual it states the driver will only do 180
    300 at higest resolution. This was also stated in the printer readme
    file that comes with PPage 1.3 .What driver are you useing ?
    	the citizen uses a 4 color typwriter type ribbon,and standard
    paper. I do not think the color output will compare to a Paintjet
    but then neither does the price. I bought the citizen not because
    of price but I can not use water solable output.
    								bill

    Could someone maybe elaborate on this "outline font" business? Does
    this actually mean that a decent 24-pin printer will produce comparable
    results to a PS laser? Secondly, if you can control the pins in
    this way, should it not be (at least theoretically) possible to
    control a non-PS laser by the same method to produce PS-like output???
    
    -Confused of Bristol
    

    If you print a document out of Professional page using the Outlined
    fonts included with ver 1.3 you will get a very smooth looking text,
    at the higest resolution of your printer,just as you get a no jaggies
    graphic when printing a structured graphic picture.However even
    if your printer exceeds that of a postscript printer(300 x 300)
    you will not get the same quality output.When it comes to text you
    will get a very very good looking output that will appear to look
    as good as postsript,but if you print a graphic you will not get
    the same quality. This is because a dot matrix printer does not
    have the ability to handle gray scale as nicely.As a matter of fact
    I dumped a gray scale image(picture of elvira) out to two laser
    printers.One was a postscript printer,the other did a bitmapped
    dump using the dot matrix output from PPage,and there was no
    comparision. The PS printer did a much finer job.In this instance
    the PS printer was also much faster.
    							bill

    Yes I can see the bit about the grey scales, but if you were just
    printing line graphics (but with lots of curves and things) would
    it look like PS (ie jag-free?) If all this is true, then what is
    the need for PS (except, of course, for the grey scales, which wouldn't
    be that important to me)?
    
    Presumably all this would work as well with the HP ink-jet as well
    as a dot-matrix???
    
    -Rog