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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

3279.0. "Word processing etc..." by PGG::MYERS () Wed Jan 03 1990 08:39

    Well, I'm another recent proud owner of an Amiga 500.  And like
    many neophyte home computer users I have a question on software
    availability.  I am looking for a good all in one package; 
    word processor, spread sheet, database, (graphics).  Basically
    something like Appleworks.  I bought the Amiga 500 instead of the
    Apple //GS for several reasons.  Now I hope I can get the software
    that I want.
    
    Thanks,
    Eric
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3279.1LEDS::ACCIARDIWed Jan 03 1990 23:3180
                                                         
    The idea of integrated packages (database, WP, graphics) really doesn't
    make much sense on a true multitasking machine like the Amiga, since
    several applications can be active simultaneously.  In addition, the
    religious adherence to a unified standard for graphics and sound,
    called IFF, allows for pretty seamless integtation of text and graphics
    from virtually ANY applications.
    
    
    Anyway, packages that you can't go wrong with...
    
    Word Processing
    ---------------
    
    ProWrite 2.5 (my pernal favorite)
    Excellence!
    Pen Pal
    KindWords
    
    All these packages are true WYSIWIG, although KindWords does not use
    standard Amiga fonts, which IMHO is a big handicap.  All can import
    and print color graphics from any paint program, and ProWrite and Pen
    Pal have the added advantage of being able to print graphics while using
    your printer's built-in high quality NLQ fonts instead of a cruder
    bit-mapped font.  If you want Postscript capability, Excellence! has it
    included (at a higher price) and ProWrite offers it as an add-on.
    
    Spreadsheet
    -----------
    
    MaxiPlan 500
    Analyze
    The Advantage
    
    All of these programs can generate and save pretty graphs in many colors
    in IFF format for import into your WP program or database.
    
    Database
    --------
    
    Superbase Personal/Professional
    MicroFiche Filer
    
    (Others I may not be familiar with...) MicroFiche filer is an
    incredibly slick package that uses the metaphor of (surprise) a
    microfiche machine.  Superbase is probably more powerful.
    
    Graphics
    --------
    
    Deluxe Paint II/III (the Granddaddy and reigning champion)
    
    There are other programs like Photon Paint and DigiPaint that utilize
    the Amiga's exotic HAM mode to display thousands of colors on screen at
    once, but Deluxe Paint is almost a rite of passage for Amiga users. 
    DPaint II will probably fill your needs, but DPAint III has many added
    features, most notably animation capabilities.
    
    Any combination of the above packages would make for a powerful little
    home workstation.  As your needs and bank account enlarge, you can move into
    powerhouse DP programs like Professional Page, which can hold it's own
    with the heavyweights from the Mac and PC world.
    
    THINGS TO LOOK FOR:  If a package features AREXX compatibility, that's
    a good thing.  AREXX will be pretty hot stuff a year or so from now. 
    Not having it isn't really a handicap, since it's being added to many
    current packages.  AREXX is a very powerful macro language from the
    mainframe world that will make it possible to do things on the Amiga
    that simply are not possible, and will be inluded with version 1.4 of
    the system software.
    
    OTHER:  Make sure that you get set up with a nice terminal program and
    modem and get plugged into the vast world of free/almost free Amiga
    Public Domain/Shareware software.  We have several hundred megabytes of
    goodies available right on the DEC EasyNet.  If you need help getting
    started, just holler.
    
    Ed.
    
    
3279.2LEDS::ACCIARDIWed Jan 03 1990 23:4013
    
    Sorry for any apparent typos or misspellings in my -.1 reply.  The
    darned line noise is so bad tonight that I have to hit ^W every other
    word or so.  
    
    A few more points... if you don't have at least 1 MByte of RAM and (2)
    floppy drives, try to get to that point as soon as possible or you'll
    curse the day you ever saw an Amiga.  If funds allow, you really should
    migrate to a combination hard drive/ram expansion box.  The Amiga, like
    the Mac, is largely disk based, and disk loading and swapping can make
    an otherwise enjoyable experience maddening.
    
    Ed.
3279.3FROCKY::BALZERChristian Balzer DTN:785-1029Thu Jan 04 1990 08:0312
    
    Re: .0, .1
    
    In the Spreadsheet arena, there's a very nice product Ed forgot
    to mention, SuperPlan, from the same company that prouces the 
    SuperBase database. Both of these products feature AREXX ports,
    which makes them a VERY powerful integrated environment (not package).
    
    Regards,
    
    <CB>
    
3279.41meg and two floppiesPGG::MYERSThu Jan 04 1990 08:1212
    Thanks for the info.  I wasn't aware how interactive the Amiga 
    was with a variety of applications.  As you could tell, I thought
    that the only way for a spreadsheet to play with a WP was to buy
    an all-in-one package.  Could you (or anyone for that matter) recommend
    a good Amiga magazine?
    
    For the record I have an Amiga 500 with 1meg, a 1084 monitor and 
    two floppy drives.  I am hoping to buy a hard disc and more memory 
    this summer... after I have a chance to "kick the tires" a little more.
                                                                   
    Thanks,
    Eric
3279.5Mix and MatchULTRA::KINDELBill Kindel @ BXB1Thu Jan 04 1990 10:0537
    Re .0:
    
>   I am looking for a good all in one package;  word processor, spread
>   sheet, database, (graphics).  Basically something like Appleworks.
    
    I have good news and I have better news:
    
    Such families of applications exist for the Amiga but their NEED
    doesn't.  On the Apple II and other systems, a sub-environment like
    Appleworks or GEOS integrates the functions you seek but is basically
    incompatible with everything else.
    
    The Amiga developers did the right thing by specifying an Interchange
    File Format for graphics, sounds, et cetera, so you can mix and match
    the word processor, spreadsheet, database, paint program, and whatever
    else to suit your own needs and preferences.
    
    I have ProWrite 2.5, which provides nearly everything I want in a word
    processor (with the exception of multi-column output, but that's more
    appropriate to desktop publishing).  Info Magazine likes Pen Pal
    better, which comes complete with a built-in database capability.
    
    I also have SuperPlan (from the same source as SuperBase, which I've
    used on the C=64/128 and will eventually acquire for the Amiga), which
    provides a very complete spreadsheet implementation, integrated
    graphing/charting, and rudimentary database handling.  It also responds
    to ARexx controls, so you can feed it data and crank through operations
    from a background task, producing an output file (text or graphics) for
    inclusion in a word processing document or whatever.
    
    SuperBase Personal is on a par with competitive database products.  It
    lets you define records, manipulate them, and generate reports.  
    SuperBase Professional does all that, includes a bunch of other
    features, and provides a programming interface so you can build
    database-centered applications.  An intermediate version stops just
    short of the programming interface.