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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

3276.0. "non-user needs low res output" by TOOK::D_SHERMAN () Tue Jan 02 1990 10:54

    I'm not an Amiga user. A friend of mine suggested I check this
    notes conference for help. I'm looking to get some very low resolution
    output of two photographs of mine - one is a slide and the other
    is a print. Can anyone help me out?
    
    Thanks, Diane
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3276.1And what about the output?FROCKY::BALZERChristian Balzer DTN:785-1029Wed Jan 03 1990 02:5818
    Re: .0
    
    I assume you want to achieve some kind of mosaic/pixelisation effect
    of those photographs. These effects (plus a load of other neat ones
    like artificial/false colors) could be easily achieved on an Amiga,
    once the images have be scanned into the system by means of a video
    digitzer or color scanner. I'm pretty sure that someone closer to
    you than me (Germany) has the necessary equipment and time.
    However, you didn't tell us what kind of output media you would like
    get. Video tape or photographic screen shots would be easily achieved
    by nearly everybody in the Amiga community, but if you're interested
    in a "perfect" slide or print, the Polaroid palette system is the
    only and VERY expensive way to do it. Pretty decent output can be
    achieved by a color ink printer like the HP Inkjet/DEC LJ250.
    
    Regards,
    
    <CB>
3276.2mosaic effect on paperTOOK::D_SHERMANThu Jan 04 1990 10:306
    I only need output on paper so ink-jet would work I guess. 
    Yes, though - I do want a mosaic effect.
    
    Germany is a bit too far, but thanks for the response!
    
    Diane
3276.3Pixel mosaic.LEDS::BUSCHDave Busch at NKS1-2Tue Jan 30 1990 12:4419
I've used D-Paint II to make mosaic type displays. What I do is:

1. Digitize (in B&W) a photo.
2. Pick up the picture as a brush.
3. Decrease the size of the brush one or more times.
4. "Paint" a shrunken copy of the picture with each of the smaller brushes.
5. Pick up one of the copies as a new brush and re-enlarge it.
6. Paint a new full size copy of the picture. 

The picture will have lost resolution and each new larger pixel will have the 
color of one of the pixels from the original area of the picture. However, I'm 
not certain that the color of the large pixel is in fact an average of all the 
pixels which occupied that area, or if it is only one of the corner pixels of 
the original, since all of the other pixels get lost every time the brush is
reduced/enlarged. Does anybody know how to force it to be the correct average 
color?

Dave

3276.4WJG::GUINEAUTue Jan 30 1990 13:093
Wouldn't averaging tend to blur sharp edges?

john
3276.5LEDS::BUSCHDave Busch at NKS1-2Wed Jan 31 1990 13:1414
<	Wouldn't averaging tend to blur sharp edges?

It would certainly reduce the overall resolution, but that is precisely the 
effect I'm looking for. The edges of the re-enlarged pixel would still be sharp,
it's just that the color within the macro-pixel would be the true average of all
the colors of the micro-pixels that made it up. Another way of looking at this
is: 

Divide a 512 by 512 pixel picture up into (for example) a 32 by 32 array of
cells. Within each cell of 16 by 16 pixels, take the average of the 256 pixels
and then fill the entire cell with that average color. 

Dave

3276.6laterMILKWY::JANZENTom 228-5421 FXO/28Wed Jan 31 1990 13:405
    The last paragraph in .5 describes two-dimensional convolution.  There
    is a public domain program for processing pictures.  it handle ham, and
    at least on most formats does convolution, derivatives (outlining)
    and so on.  Maybe I'll find it.
    Tom
3276.7just one click of the mouseHYSTER::DEARBORNTrouvez MieuxWed Jan 31 1990 13:565
Pixmate, Butcher and Deluxe Photo Lab will all do this for you.  
The effect is usually refered to as Mosaic.  

Randy

3276.8Smoothing comes close to what you wantDUGGAN::GAYNow where&#039;d I put that hammer...Thu Feb 01 1990 12:509
    If you don't have anything but Deluxe Paint, you could try smoothing
    the picture first, then the shrink/expand trick.  The smoothing will
    average the colors (but using the current palette, it doesn't recompute
    them).
    
    Now, if only it would do HAM mode.
    
    Yours
    Erg