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3240.1 | | WJG::GUINEAU | Quantum Reality | Tue Dec 19 1989 17:45 | 8 |
| I'll let you copyit to WJG:: if you tell me how you "connecting to USENET" :-)
Seriously, you can put it on WJG.
I would like to get outside DEC access to USENET since I don't get much
time to read usenet anymore...
John
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3240.2 | What is your credit limit with New England Bell? | RLAV::LITTLE | Todd Little, NYA SWS, 323-4475 | Tue Dec 19 1989 20:30 | 8 |
| It's now at WJG::AMIGA:JDCP.ZOO. As far as revealing my method of
connection, let me first verify I can do it, then let me see if I can
admit I've done it. Unfortunately, I think the Amiga has to do the
dialing (at least from what I've gleaned from the installation
procedure). This makes my connection in New Jersey pretty unpalatable
for you folks "up North".
-tl
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3240.3 | Amiga's within DEC | WHAMMY::SPODARYK | Binary Throttle | Tue Dec 19 1989 23:25 | 14 |
| This isn't exactly related, but...
What is DEC's policy about bringing other vendors equipment
in-house and connecting it up? I believe several people have
Amiga's at work, so it must not be a problem. It is probably
similar to dialing in from home.
What about adding a Ethernet card and actually registering it
as a DECnet node? Anyone done that? I don't have the cash/desire
to do so, but I was curious. Same as any other node, ie. CC Manager
approval, etc.
~Steve
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3240.4 | let security know | LEVERS::MEYER | Dave Meyer | Wed Dec 20 1989 02:34 | 1 |
| Isn't that pretty much how the DEC-Mac connection got started ?
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3240.5 | UUCP connection not difficult | LEVERS::PLOUFF | can't memorize Zen... | Wed Dec 20 1989 12:05 | 29 |
| re: first couple
I have had my Amiga at home running AmigaUUCP for several months.
Things came to a crashing halt when my mail feed machine's operating
system (Microport ENIX) got upgraded, and AmigaUUCP couldn't understand
how to log on any more. So I will try JDCP to see what happens.
The basic requirements to get UUCP mail are the software on your Amiga
and a willing connection. 2400 baud is plenty fast enough for your
modem link. News is a different animal. Due to the daily volume, even
for a single newsgroup like comp.sys.amiga, you really need a hard disk
with a few to 40 megabytes free. If you plan to get more than a small
sampling of newsgroups, a 9600 baud Telebit Trailblazer modem is
a necessity.
Finding a connection and setting up your machine to talk to it are not
hard tasks, but require plenty of fiddling around and a reasonably good
understanding of how network mail works. You cannot use a DEC internal
site for a UUCP or Usenet connection, say the network police, and the
"well-known" nodes which do talk to the outside, such as decwrl and
decvax, are too heavily loaded to take connections from personal
computers. Luckily, it's not too hard to find the owner of a small
site who will connect to an Amiga, especially in California and
Massachusetts.
Send me mail if you want some help getting started.
Wes Plouff
sometime system operator of 'beeline'
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3240.6 | Not bad | 11SRUS::MARK | Waltzing with Bears | Wed Dec 20 1989 14:05 | 45 |
| I downloaded JDCP last night and played with it for a bit. My amiga has
been on the UUCP net (USENET is a software layer on top of that) for some time
now, through AmigaUUCP. Consequntly, I have two feeds I could test JDCP against
immediatly.
My initial reaction is that if it lives up to its claims, it is
considerably better than AmigaUUCP. Unfortunarly, it seems not to be able to
talk to one of my feeds (a VAX/VMS system running DECUS-UUCP). It talks to the
other one (a VAX/Ultrix system) just fine. I'll try to work out the problem
tonight, when the system manager for the system I can't talk to with JDCP is
awake, and able to monitor things on his end.
Compared with AmigaUUCP, JDCP has the following...
Disadvantages:
Won't talk to one of my feeds. (Could be user error on my part.)
More primitive user interface for sending mail. Doesn't give you an
oppourtunity to enter a subject, doesn't use an editor, and always
appends your .signature (AmigaUUCP gives you a choice). I don't know
about reading mail, but it's hard to imagine a more primitive user
interface for reading mail than the one in AmigaUUCP.
Poor documentation. It claims that things were made to look like their
Unix counterparts, so if you know them, you know JDCPs. If you don't,
too bad. Also, the documentation for setting up l.sys is sparse, and
it's non-standard.
Advantages:
Smart routing on the mailer! It comes with an amiga port of pathalias,
which allows you to build a paths database and use internet style
addresses. AmigaUUCP let you use smart addressing only by sending it
to a node known to be able to figure out were to send it from there.
I haven't tried this yet, either.
The news structure looks better. This is hard to say for certain,
since I have yet to try it. I never was able to get news working with
AmigaUUCP, so I'm not currently recieving groups. I'll have to test
this some more.
It keeps a record of outgoing mail you send.
Mark
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3240.7 | More, more!! | WILARD::BARRETT | Wait'll they get a load of me | Wed Dec 27 1989 16:43 | 7 |
| Where can both AmigaUUCP and JDCP bo found on the ENET??
How can one locate a network connection in his/her home area (consult
schools, town halls, etc)? That may sound like a silly question,
but just knowing a persons location (Waterbury, CT for instance)
isn't enough to come up with a feed using the UUCP "path" facilities
as far as I know.
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