Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    Sounds to me like you are trying to use *stolen* software.  Since you
    apparently feel it is a worthwhile utility, perhaps you should PAY the
    authors for their work.  In return you'll have the instructions you
    require to use it properly...

    Your intitled to your opinion, but if your not going to be of any
    assistance please keep your piracy opinion to yourself! I stole
    nothing! If you want to discuss piracy etc go to that notes file.
    If you have something of value to add regarding my questions then
    add them or stay out... Thanks for nothing.
    
    Mike

    Mike,
    As moderator of this conference, it is my responsibility to ensure that
    activities conducted herein do not place DIGITAL at risk.  That would
    include exchanges of information to further the use of pirated software,
    or any other illegal operations.  Allowing such activities here would
    be sufficient grounds to have this entire conference *terminated*.

    Your statements so far give me the impression that you are asking for
    information which would have been included with a legitimate copy of
    the program.  I'm willing to be convinced that my conclusion is
    incorrect.  Otherwise, I must insist that you not use this medium to
    elicit support for your 'gift'...

    	I suggest that your friend return the package to the dealer,and
    request a complete package.In the interm you could call the software 
    company,and request help.I had returned a disk,and resistration card 
    together to a software vendor,and a year later found out I was still
    not registered.The tech support people had recieved,and lost the
    bad disk,and my card.I ended up sending photo copies of the MANUAL
    and the serial sticker that came with the product.So you can see
    the manual is important even if the program can run itself.In re
    .3 I support the moderator. It is not a question of is the software
    pirated,or not,but one of is it even questionable.If there is the
    SLIGHTEST indication that it could be I expect the moderator to
    act as he did.One has to consider that if a person will steal
    directly.or indirectly from others,then they may not hesitate to
    abuse the notes files for there own gain.If it COULD be proven
    that someone was requesting help for pirated software then they,AND
    ANYONE replying to the note offering assistance should have acsess
    to the conference cut.There is no gray area here you eather support
    stealing software or you don't.I consider this conference an important
    privledge granted to me,and resent those that would compromise it.
    	Not only is the conference being put in danger,but it's integrity
    has been comprised.how many people feel that if they ask a very
    simple question they could be accused of piriacy ? If even one person
    feels this way then we have been compromised.a year ago this thought
    would never had arisen.It is time for the conference to take a stand
    on this.
    								bill

I have to agree with both .3 and .4.

Discussions on the philosophy of piracy lead nowhere. It's a religeous issue.

I do know that this conference has been an invaluable source of both fun and
knowledge for me and many others (and heck, Ed just posted the NekTek Demo 3!). 

Anything which compromises this conference and also DEC itself must be avoided.

I vote Mr Moderator should DELETE all notes requesting help on (verifiably)
pireted software and that all readers simply not reply to any such notes
other than to ask "Where's your manual" or "Have you called the distributors"
etc. etc.

John

    I did not intend for replies such as "I vote moderator etc". If the
    questions I asked seem to indicate something not in support of the 
    conference I respect that. So its not necessry to take a stand on this
    issue. Maybe I should have phrased my questions differently. I for one
    enjoy the Amiga notes file and would never do anything which might put
    it at risk.
    
    I have seen many notes files regarding questions of non-sharewhere
    software, usually they get helpful replies. Maybe I should have 
    asked "X-copy anybody have it thats willing to explain it"?
    
    Now if we can stop the debate, I for one would appreciate it. Over
    all I agree with your concerns.
    
    Mike
    

    I think we should go with .5,and then let this discussion,not the
    issue be put to rest.
    								bill