Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    
    Well, I knew SID was too good to be true... I have found a rather nasty
    little bug, but there IS a workaround...
    
    If your run SID (whether from Workbench or it's own custom screen) and
    then run another program that opens it's own custom screen, and if you
    go directly from the second program's screen to the SID screen and
    double click directly on an entry in the SID window, (which is ghosted,
    or inactive at first) it's guru city.
    
    The workaround is to first SELECT the SID window by clicking anywhere
    in the title bar.  You can then double click on any directory entry
    with no problems.  SID just doesn't seem to like using a directory
    entry as the 'activate window' gadget.
    
    Ed.

Checked out SID last night. Looks like DiskMaster is on it's way out!

John

Whew!  Goodby to all those other CLI tools!

Randy

    SID is really something!  I guess I'll have to go "fishing" for HEAR,
    DiskX, and some of the other utilities.  
    
    re: .1
    
    I had a situation similar to .1 except instead of a GURU, all
    my disk icons disappeared and my pull-down menu selections (Mymenu)
    wouldn't work.  
    
    All 'n all, it's great.
    
    mark

    
    Mark:
    
    Look on TAPE or NORSE for a file called SOUND.ARC.  It contains a nifty
    IFF sound (8SVX) player and a few sampled sounds.  SOUND works from CLI
    or Workbench.
    
    Ed.

    I started playing around with the program last night. It's very good
    BUT, My present workbench color selection does not look very good with
    SID. I do not want to change my workbench colors so, I called Timm
    Martin this morning and inquired if he could add color changing support
    for custom screens. He said " wow!, that's a good idea, I never thought
    of it". He also said that he will have a new revision within a couple of
    weeks and he will incorporate this feature in the new revision. I will
    be sending him my shareware check early next week. Perhaps we can beat
    the hell out the program this weekend and try to uncover as many bugs
    as possible. I would like to include a list of bugs that we can find
    with my check so he can clear up some of these problems in the next
    revision.
    
    
    
    Roger
    

    Re: .6
    
    You wanna bug? There ya go...  ;-)
                                 
    SID will get little use in it's current incarnation by me, since
    it doesn't allow me to open a custom SIZED screen. Ya know, that
    PAL and overscan stuff. ;-)
    And no, my workbench is crowded enough without it. ;-)
    
    Regards,
    
    <CB>

    Thanks, Ed, I'll give it another try.  I say another because everytime 
    I've tried to download SOUNDS.ARC it was corrupted. (I know how to use
    CVTARC ;^)).   BTW, congratulations on the new addition to your
    household Ed!
    
    How about your choices for viewers?  I have "V" and "ShoWiz".  Any
    suggestions?  
    
    How about window iconifiers(?).  I used to use "Wicon" but it seems 
    to GURU my machine when used with "Mymenu" more often than not.
    
    How about...(just kidding)
    
    mark

    
    If you're sending him SID suggestions, you might ask for a startup
    switch to have it come up all ready shrunk.  That way I could put this
    in my startup and have it there all the time.
    
    Also, EDIT does not work with CygnusEd.  It really looks like it
    isn't supplying the full path name, but I can't be sure.  I select a
    file and then click on edit, CygnusEd starts up and the file name is at
    the top of the screen (minus the path) but the contents aren't there.
    I changed the editor and it seems to work with others.  Just cygnused
    doesn't work.
    
    It looks like the SID window width is fixed.  I'd like to see it use
    the full screen width. I use morerows with a 660 wide display.
    The hidden "parent" gadgets are difficult to select when you don't have
    the right side of the display to slam the mouse up against.
    
    Also, I think the device gadgets would be more usefull if he would
    allow names not equal to 3 chars.  Seems like a minor detail and would
    make all those fields more useful.  For example, if I want to use one
    for c: I have to make something up for the text like CCC.  Minor
    detail.
    
    Nice program though.  Thanks Ed.
    
    regards,
    
    steve

    There is a startup "shrunk" switch.  In Sid.config set WindowHeight=
    Shrink.
    
    Also, if you set absolutepath=yes, and place two volumes with the same
    label in your lists, it will only accessone of the volumes.  There is
    a menu flag you have to change to get it to work correctly or set
    absolutepath=no.
    
    mark

It's a great utility, but I'm starting to have problems with it 
while running other programs.  I have had it bomb all the way to 
the KickStart requester several times now.  Each time, I was 
running another program, like a GIF viewer or other graphics 
programs.  Often, I get the feeling that I was asking it to do to 
much, too fast.

This has happened more than once.  Not just a guru...straight to 
KickStart.

Randy

    
    Most long-time Amiga users develop a very good feel for when the
    machine is going to crash.   After a year or more of totally crash-free
    operation, I find that SID is too shakey for me.  You get the feeling
    that you're walking on eggs when using it.  Shame, really, since it's
    potential is so great.
    
    Maybe I'll call the author and see if he's aware of his bugs before I
    send a shareware contribution.  I'd really like SID to work, but for
    now... I'll take DiskMaster out of the trash.
    
    Ed.

    SID seems to be a good button utility.  However, I changed my editor to
    TXEd and it doesn't like the fact the SID wants to pass the target
    filename in quotes (").  There are several utilities like this acquired
    from various sources.

    I have SID v1.04.  If there is interest I will upload it.
    
    
    mark
    

    I was just about to download the older version

    Hold off, I just downloaded Sid 1.06 last night off PLINK. I will try
    to upload it to norse::[upload] sometime this weekend.
    
    
    Roger
    

    Sid106.lzh is now on @ norse::amiga:[upload]
    
    Enjoy
    
    Roger
    

    Hi,
    
    Where can I get hold of this beast? It's not on TAPE or CRISTA..
    
    Dave
    
    Or is there a better dir utility?
    

�    Where can I get hold of this beast? It's not on TAPE or CRISTA..

    SID V1.06 should be on TAPE:: in the fishing hole, as it was distributed
    on FF338 (TAPE""::AMIGA:[AMIGA.FISH.Z300]FF338.*, I presume?).

�    Or is there a better dir utility?

    I've never tried any of those types of utilities, but DiskMaster is
    supposed to be a decent commercial product. I'm saving my pennies for
    Directory Opus from Inovatronics (the Power-Windows, CanDo people).

    Pete

�    Or is there a better dir utility?

I've been using something called DW which seems pretty good to me. It's
on TAPE somewhere, perhaps upload.

It seems good to me, but I haven't seen SID, so I can't compare the 2.


Greg

    SID 1.06 is good, because you can customize it. You can modify the 
    parameters easely. ie to view pictures, I use Mostra 1.04 thru SID, you
    can also compress/decompress/listCompressedfiles in 6 different modes
    (Zoo,LHarc,arc,zip,pak) naturally you need to install those
    compression/decompression programs in the C: and modify the
    S/Sid.config file. 
    When started it can also load an directory of a specific path.
    
    							Erik

    DiskMaster has worked well since I bought it. It allows you to save a
    config file. It will of course format disks, but it has the option of
    doing a fast format on disks that have already been formatted once.
    You select clear from the format requester, and in a second your full
    disk has been cleaned. This is pretty much how Quarterback tools does
    it. The program simply cleans out the section of the disk that holds
    the directory info.This gives you the option to reclaim files if
    needbe.It comes up seeing several devices,and has the option to set
    those you use most in the config file, and also access the others when
    needed.(I have eight partitions across 2 drives) Yuo can view pictures,
    play sounds, move, rename, delete, create directories, run a cli
    command,set colors as with any other program of this type. The new
    version will be supporting multiple windows. It also allows the
    unarcing of files . This version supports arc,zoo,and lharc. You select
    the file chose the method, select the source drive when requested, and
    it does it's thing. I gave up in SID after my first guru. I read a note
    like this on how to aviod this problem, and that problem etc, and find
    myself wondering what is going on. I would rather go without a utility
    than to deal with problems, especially with a utility that deals
    strictly with my sacred data. The advantage of a multitasking system is
    you don't need a jack of all trades, master on none program, because
    you can run several programs that are masters in their own right. Of
    course I paid for DiskMaster. But I have never lost a file, crashed,
    and burned or such while using it. I feel thia type of utility is
    useless if it isn't bulletproof.
    								bill 

I use SID 1.06 - when I use a directory utility.

One feature I'd like to see (don't remember if it's in SID 2.0) is action
based on file TYPE (as in file name "name.typ" convention). 

For example, I'd like to be able to specify my own applications to operate on
a .IBG file.

john

I thought SID already did some things based on file type (display IFF, 
play sounds, execute scripts,etc.)  As far as I know, SID either reads part of 
the file to determine its format or uses protection bits (is it executable?).
I should think that the use of a piece of the filename as a determinant would 
not work very well.  The concept of filetype (separated from a file "name" by 
a period) is just as foreign to AmigaDOS as it is to Unix, even though we use it
for our own comfort.

> I thought SID already did some things based on file type (display IFF, 
> play sounds, execute scripts,etc.)  As far as I know, SID either reads part of 
> the file to determine its format or uses protection bits (is it executable?).

Yes, that's what it does.

> I should think that the use of a piece of the filename as a determinant would 
> not work very well.  The concept of filetype (separated from a file "name" by 
> a period) is just as foreign to AmigaDOS as it is to Unix, even though we use it
> for our own comfort.

How else can SID provide a way of doing "out of band" actions? If I have
a file that is not IFF, Executable or whatever, all it's scheme can do is
fall through to "display file information".

I think, even though the file type concept is meaningless on these systems, 
it is still a usefull means of distinguishing actions in the absense of
integration with existing standards.

john

    
    Diskmaster II also has a method of automatically executing user defined
    actions when you double click on a particular file.  It's called
    "auto-cmd" mode.   If you double click a file, Diskmaster looks at a
    user specified number of bytes of the file, for a user specified pattern,
    and if there's a match, carries out the user specified action.  An
    example setup to display pictures for some period might be:
    
     AddAutoCmd FORM????ILBM,ShowPic %s;wait 4
    
    The diskmaster concept seems to work exactly the same as SID but seems
    more configurable.
    
    Frank
    

Excellent!  That's about all Diskmaster needed to be complete, IMHO.  I bought
Diskmaster and like its style as well.

    I had some problems to use Diskmaster II on KS&WB 1.3
    And I personally don't like all those windows appearing and dissappering.
    There was a problem with some pictures, that it couldn't show & some
    samples where not played at the right speed.
    
    			
    This topic looks like an DiskMaster-SID duel ;-))))
    
    						Erik

    DW has all these things and is available at
    
    EOT::AMIGA:[AMIGA.UTILITIES]DIRWORK_131.LZH
    
    DiskMaster hangs the system on WB2.0, although I understand DiskMaster II
    is supposed to work.  So much for being bulletproof :-).
    
    I don't know anything that DW is missing offhand and it runs under all
    workbench versions.
    
    -steve

    
    re .29 .30
    
    	Diskmaster II has the official 2.0 support sticker. My copy has
    worked great on both 2.0 and 1.3 .
    
    			Steve P.