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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2900.0. "Faster Transfer Question" by SHARE::DOYLE () Thu Sep 07 1989 15:22

    Is there any way to connect to the Public Domain Download directories
  using Decnet Dos?.
    The Transfer times are incredibley fast.
     Right now I copy them to my account and then to disk, it'd be better
    if I could go straight to my disk by declaring the PD accounts as drives
    with decnet.
    
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2900.1BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonThu Sep 07 1989 20:186
    a NDU disk is a single VMS file, not a VMS directory.  So the
    quick answer is no.  How about using DECnet-DOS's NFT to directly
    copy the files from those directories to your pc.  That can also
    be incredibley fast.
    
    -Dave
2900.2Nothin works on the first try.....SHARE::DOYLEFri Sep 08 1989 17:0012
    
    re .1
    
    	I tried using nft, getting examples out of the Vaxmate MSDos book.
     However I fear I'm not getting my Syntax right.
        Could you type out an Example line?
    	Also I believe I need to define the Address of the node I wish to 
     transfer from.
    	Is this correct?
        If so, how can I get these Addresses?
                  				Thanx Ed
    
2900.3BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonFri Sep 08 1989 20:5517
    
    to define the node:
    1. type NCP
    2. then type HELP DEFINE NODE
       that will tell you the syntax to define a node address and node
       name.  Or if you already a have a VAX system defined you can
       just do a COPY NODE new_nodename FROM nodename (that will go
       look up the new_nodename in the nodename's NCP database and copy
       it to your NCP database)
    
    using NFT gets tricky depending on the RMS file type.  If it is
    a Stream_lf file, use NFT COPY/BLOCK remote_filespec *.*
    
    otherwise just use NFT COPY remote_filespec *.*
    
    -Dave
    
2900.4its easy and fast too...NAC::BRANNONvalue addedSat Sep 09 1989 00:4816
    Most of the DECnet-DOS and DECnet-VAXmate programs have a builtin
    help command.
    
    ncp help
    nft help
    etc.
    
    I've been using things like
    "nft copy/block norse::amiga:[upload]*.* b:"
    to automagically pull them across the net and down to my floppy
    to bring home.  
       
    Now if only there was a DECnet-Amiga from Digital...
    
    regards,
    dennis	(DECnet-DOS Development)
2900.5seems too slow.SHARE::DOYLEMon Sep 11 1989 13:437
    Well, I was able to define the nodes and use nft, (Thanks Guys!).
    But I'm only getting rates of 198-398 bytes per second.8'(
    Vms copying seems to be the fastest and then transfer from my M: drive to 
    A: drive using Decnet.
    	Are 198-398 bytes per second typical?
    							Ed
    
2900.6sometimes it isBAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonMon Sep 11 1989 17:5015
    the speed really depends on what the network path is between
    you and that remote system.
    
    I usually do all copying with FTSV on the VAX directory, check to
    make sure everything is in stream_lf format and then use NFT
    COPY/BLOCK to get it to the pc (that way doesn't tie up the pc for
    so long).  Blazing speeds over the same ethernet segment.
    
    Coping directly from the remote VAX to my pc is usually done only
    when I'm almost out of quota on my VAX account, because of the
    speed difference you mentioned - a slow file copy ties up the
    use of the pc too long, makes you really appreciate operating
    systems that can walk and chew gum at the same time :-)
    
    -Dave
2900.7NAC::BRANNONvalue addedWed Sep 13 1989 22:0612
    re .5:
    M: drive???  Sounds like PCSA rather than just DECnet-DOS.
    
    What ethernet card are you using?  And what version of PCSA?
    What version number does nft<return> display?
    
    The bytes per second figure is related to how long it took to copy
    from the remote system.  Try comparing numbers with copying the
    same files from your local vax with nft.
    
    dennis