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2874.1 | | STAR::ROBINSON | | Tue Aug 29 1989 14:10 | 2 |
| FWIW I'll second the request.
Dave
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2874.2 | maybe a beefed-up Access!??? | WAV12::HICKS | Stamp out hoplophobia!!! | Tue Aug 29 1989 15:14 | 7 |
| I like Access! for its feature-richness and jazzy user interface.
But without at _least_ VT100 emulation, its useless for serious
work. Maybe the developer (can't think of his name) could be convinced
to put a VTx00 capability in there. Except for the multi-session
capability its close to the ultimate comm package, IMHO.
<<< t >>>
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2874.3 | Handshake, maybe VLT + XprZModem? | BOMBE::MOORE | BaN CaSe_sEnSiTiVe iDeNtIfIeRs! | Tue Aug 29 1989 22:03 | 11 |
| Well, I (and many others I know) use Handshake. It provides VT100 and
VT200 emulation and supports KERMIT, XMODEM and YMODEM transfers. It's
"freely distributable" so the price is right. You can find it on Fish
disks, most online services, BBS systems, etc. or grab it from TAPE, et
al.
You might look at another PD offering called "VLT". It's supposed to
do VTxxx emulation, handles the usual transfer protocols and allows
externally provided transfer protocols (XPR) to be added. There was a
XprZModem package recently released which you're supposed to be able to
use with VLT. These are also available on the net, Fish disks, etc...
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2874.4 | | AMIGA2::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Tue Aug 29 1989 22:51 | 9 |
| I would really like a multi-session capable terminal emulator. To be
able to downline load in one session while noting/working in another
would really be nice.
Is the source for Wheat (is that it's name) around ? Or how diffcult
would it to be upgrade Smokey ?
Regards
Mike
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2874.5 | I use Jrcomm. | GUCCI::HERB | | Tue Aug 29 1989 23:10 | 4 |
| Has anybody seen BaudBandit???
mat
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2874.6 | | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Wed Aug 30 1989 09:53 | 6 |
| RE: .2 It doesn't have zmodem.
RE: .3 Ditto.
RE: .4 Wheat was one of Mike Leibow's projects. Dunno
if he is still at DEC.
|
2874.7 | | LOWLIF::DAVIS | That's not a BUG, it's a FEATURE! | Wed Aug 30 1989 11:31 | 17 |
| I use Handshake all the time with only one problem: it occasionally has
locked up when I get a few garbage characters. As far as the VT200 emulation
goes, it's the best I've seen. (I still can not seem to get my tab settings
set up perfectly though - SMG$ code screws up a bit)
I agree that Access! has a slick looking in-your-face. I know some people
complain that they don't like the "flashy" look, they just want functionality.
I like a mix of both. (also the "flashiness" takes more CHIP RAM, oh well)
Hey, by the way, has anyone ever got a response from Eric Haberfellner (the
author of Handshake)? I sent him my shareware fee and a list of a few things
(bugs, features, etc) I thought about Handshake and I never heard back. Then
I sent him another note with still no response. Of course, he cashed my check.
Sorry, I'm rambling now...
...richard
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2874.8 | | AMIGA2::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Wed Aug 30 1989 23:18 | 1 |
| You mean someone cashed your cheque ?
|
2874.9 | | LOWLIF::DAVIS | That's not a BUG, it's a FEATURE! | Thu Aug 31 1989 12:05 | 10 |
| re: < Note 2874.8 by AMIGA2::MCGHIE "Thank Heaven for small Murphys !" >
> You mean someone cashed your cheque ?
Yep, he sure did. (I did take a couple of months though) Hey! I just noticed
your node name - good stuff.
Did I miss the point of your question? (Sometimes I'm slooooow :-)
...richard
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2874.10 | | AMIGA2::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Thu Aug 31 1989 22:36 | 11 |
| I tried for the node name AMIGA, but someone is already using it ? I've
never noticed it in the notesfile, I should track it down and see where
it lives. The DECNET address is 9.984. Setting host to it gives a
welcome text that it appears to be running VAX/VMS 5.2
As regards to the cheque, on my statements there is no indication who
cashed it, just that it was cashed. Do your banks do it differently on
your side of the world ?
Regards
Mike
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2874.11 | AMIGA:: in LJO | RLAV::WEGER | NJCD SWS, Piscataway NJ. 323-4468 | Fri Sep 01 1989 01:06 | 8 |
| VTX NODE_LOCATION shows node AMIGA:: as
Low End Manufacturing in LJO.
Someone beat ya to it :-(
-bw
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2874.12 | but are they *Amiga's*?!? | WJG::GUINEAU | In the calm calculus of reason | Fri Sep 01 1989 08:23 | 4 |
|
Is either really an Amiga?
John
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2874.13 | node names, I luv 'em | AMIGA2::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Fri Sep 01 1989 08:46 | 15 |
| Well I can vouch that mine isn't an Amiga, it's a VS2000 (at least it
windows !).
As for the other...
My point was that I had tried to get the node name AMIGA, however it
was already in use. But then I've never seen the node name show up in
this notes conference, so I wonder if it is being used by an Amiga user
at all ?????
By the way, our other cluster members include NOTIBM, NOTDG, NOTHP,
NOTNEC, NOTCDC. I also have an ELN node registered called NOTPDP.
Regards
Mike
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2874.14 | Continuing the rabbit trail... | LOWLIF::DAVIS | That's not a BUG, it's a FEATURE! | Fri Sep 01 1989 11:48 | 14 |
| re: .10
> As regards to the cheque, on my statements there is no indication who
> cashed it, just that it was cashed. Do your banks do it differently on
> your side of the world ?
No, but we get the cancelled check back and it has his signature. I guess
someone else *COULD* have cashed it, but I sent it to the address listed in
the lastest version of the program.
Regarding AMIGA::, maybe it is a workstation that belongs to a friendly lady
who speaks Spanish. Well, *MAYBE*! :-)
...richard
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2874.15 | It's me, It's me | AMIGA::RIES | The Steamed Frank | Fri Sep 01 1989 18:36 | 6 |
| I snarfed AMIGA a couple of months ago when I got this system (a VAXstation II).
I used to run notes on CANIS, but just started running notes from AMIGA. I was
really surprised to find that AMIGA had not been taken yet. Guess I got it
just in time!
Frank
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2874.16 | curious | WJG::GUINEAU | In the calm calculus of reason | Fri Sep 01 1989 19:22 | 4 |
|
Hm. So are there any Amiga on the net?
john
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2874.17 | | AMIGA2::MCGHIE | Thank Heaven for small Murphys ! | Fri Sep 01 1989 22:34 | 10 |
| re: -.2 I must have just missed then, 'cause I tried to register my
nodes only a few months ago (drats!)
As for an Amiga on the net, well I'm not sure Network
Management/Security would accept an Amiga as a DECNET node on easynet.
I suppose you could kuldge your away around it by declaring it as a
(shudder !) PC !
Regards
Mike
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2874.18 | VLT + XPRZmodem works... kinda | CGOFS::CADAMS | Clint Adams - Calgary, Canada | Wed Sep 06 1989 13:23 | 37 |
|
Re.. .3
>You might look at another PD offering called "VLT". It's supposed to
>do VTxxx emulation, handles the usual transfer protocols and allows
>externally provided transfer protocols (XPR) to be added. There was a
>XprZModem package recently released which you're supposed to be able to
>use with VLT. These are also available on the net, Fish disks, etc...
I put this together last night, it's pretty straight forward and
for the most part worked.
I installed VLT version 4.058 (can be obtained from
CGOU01::AMNEW:VLT.ZOO) and the XPRZmodem.library from Fish disk
236. That's about all there is to it, once the XPRZmodem library
is available, it is activated by selecting the External Protocol
in the Transfer pull down. I downloaded a bunch of stuff,
although the downloads were successful, at the end of the transfer
I got a "Script- Error opening ARexx Port" and upon returning to
the VLT screen, everything echoed was garbage. My understanding
is that ARexx is not required for VLT but it does support an ARexx
port. The docs talked about installing the ARexxARPlib.library
and I did, but still the same error message.
VLT is a decent vt100 emulator with lots of features and proper
keymapping for 2000/500's as well as a good scripting language
(sounds close to what we're looking for eh...). I am not sure
what is required to get by this ARexx thing (I don't want to buy
it). There is a new version of VLT (4.064) around (on BIX I
believe) that has some bug fixes to do with the XPR stuff. Maybe
that will help.
Maybe somebody with ARexx could give it a try and see what
happens.
Regards.... Clint
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2874.19 | | TALLIS::MCAFEE | Steve McAfee | Wed Sep 06 1989 13:38 | 13 |
|
VLT V4.064 is on Fish disk 226 I believe. I downloaded it a few
nights ago along with FF 236. XPRZMODEM.LIBRARY worked ok. VLT didn't
support ZMODEM RESUME though. VLT is either buggy or doesn't like some
of the utilities I have running cause it hung (hanged??) on me several
times. Not the whole system, just the program. One nice thing, it
translates mouse clicks into ANSI cursor movements so you can actually
position the mouse while using EDT/TPU!!! Well...sort of. Funny
things happen if you have scrolling regions defined.
regards,
steve
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2874.20 | XRP will resume... | CGOFS::CADAMS | Clint Adams - Calgary, Canada | Wed Sep 06 1989 16:18 | 16 |
|
Re.. .19
The version of VLT on Fish 226 is 4.036 (according to the poster
with it).
The XPRZmodem.library supports resume by changing the "External
Option" "ON" to "OR" (resume if filename match).
Do you have ARexx, if not, did you get any errors at the end of a
transfer?
I'm going to play with it some more and will keep you posted.
Regards... Clint
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2874.21 | | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Wed Sep 06 1989 16:31 | 1 |
| Where is xprzmodem.library?
|
2874.22 | Fish 236 | CGOFS::CADAMS | Clint Adams - Calgary, Canada | Wed Sep 06 1989 17:19 | 8 |
| >< Note 2874.21 by DICKNS::MACDONALD "WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25" >
> Where is xprzmodem.library?
On Fish 236 or CGOU01::amnew:xprzmodem.zoo
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2874.23 | | TALLIS::MCAFEE | Steve McAfee | Thu Sep 07 1989 10:11 | 24 |
| re: 19
> The version of VLT on Fish 226 is 4.036 (according to the poster
> with it).
Yes. You're right I wasn't sure about that from memory.
> The XPRZmodem.library supports resume by changing the "External
> Option" "ON" to "OR" (resume if filename match).
As I said VLT doesn't support this. When I set this option it comes
back and says something about a certain callback not being supported.
> Do you have ARexx, if not, did you get any errors at the end of a
> transfer?
Yes, I do. And no I did not get any errors. However (and this is
really wierd). I can't seem to get VLT to work with xprzmodem again.
Everything is exactly the way it was on my hard disk when it worked
the other night. Now I get some uninformative message. I'm sure it's
just "user error", but the thing's too buggy for my tastes anyhow.
Maybe V4.064 is better...
- steve
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2874.24 | | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Thu Sep 07 1989 21:52 | 1 |
| .064? Okay, where is that located?
|
2874.25 | How about starting from a reliable base | SPIDER::LONG | | Thu Sep 07 1989 22:56 | 5 |
| Is it possible to get a copy ( for internal use only ) of Mike Leibow's
VT200 terminal emulator v1.1a to add zmodem to??? I would be willing to give
this a try if we could come up with sources.
Dick
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2874.26 | Works well enough for me... | CGOFS::CADAMS | Clint Adams - Calgary, Canada | Fri Sep 08 1989 12:32 | 48 |
|
Re... .23
>> The XPRZmodem.library supports resume by changing the "External
>> Option" "ON" to "OR" (resume if filename match).
>
> As I said VLT doesn't support this. When I set this option it comes
> back and says something about a certain callback not being supported.
I have successfully resumed a transfer using this method.
>> Do you have ARexx, if not, did you get any errors at the end of a
>> transfer?
> Yes, I do. And no I did not get any errors. However (and this is
> really weird). I can't seem to get VLT to work with xprzmodem again.
> Everything is exactly the way it was on my hard disk when it worked
> the other night. Now I get some uninformative message. I'm sure it's
> just "user error", but the thing's too buggy for my tastes anyhow.
> Maybe V4.064 is better...
> - steve
The Arexx messages I have been seeing is when VLT is trying to
ring the bell, if I set VLT to "Program Yes" (???), it doesn't
happen. Also, for some reason, at the end of a Zmodem transfer
the "Parity" setting gets changed. If you set it back to 8N1 (in my
case) all is back to normal. Hopefully .064 will fix some of
this.
Re... .24
I have heard that .064 is available from BIX (that's were the
author Willy Langeveld lives).
Re... .25
Steve Drew (of Shell fame) tried to get the sources some time ago
to try this, he's still waiting to here from who ever was looking
after them (read gave up).
Actually, VLT is a decent emulator and VT200 isn't without it's
problems. I am tired of using two packages and would like to find
one that would meet my requirements.
Regards.... Clint
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2874.27 | | MANTIS::LONG | | Fri Sep 08 1989 16:58 | 5 |
| Re:.26
The sources for Mike's VT200 pkg. is not supposed to be available to
the world as it has DEC terminal code in it that is DEC's property. What I
wanted to do was upgrade this pkg. for internal use only.
Dick
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2874.28 | | TALLIS::MCAFEE | Steve McAfee | Fri Sep 08 1989 21:01 | 14 |
| re: .26
If you are using the version of VLT from FF 226, I would like to
know how you did a ZMODEM resume. Try it again. The support just
isn't in the V4.036 code. Take a look at
Vlt/xprlib/comm-program/xprfuncs.c. xpr_finfo() is NULLed out. This is
EXACTLY what the program tells me when I try to set the OR option.
xpr_finfo() is the callback function which the protocol specifies to get
the file info for the local file so it knows where to resume.
Sorry, if it seems like I'm beating this to death, but something's
fishy here... (pun intended)
- steve
|
2874.29 | 8M1 | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Mon Sep 11 1989 10:07 | 4 |
| Oddly, when VLT completes a zmodem transfer, it somehow switches
to 8M1 parity from the original setting of 8N1. I have to manually
select 8N1 to continue reading the screen. Anyone else experience
this problem, or know why it is happening?
|
2874.30 | Yup... | FRAMBO::BALZER | Christian Balzer DTN:785-1029 | Mon Sep 11 1989 11:52 | 10 |
| Re: .29
Yeah, "works" for me, too.
Hopefully 4.064 will fix this and other "features".
Otherwise I like VLT a lot...
Regards,
<CB>
|
2874.31 | from usenet... | TALLIS::MCAFEE | Steve McAfee | Tue Sep 12 1989 10:09 | 19 |
| From: [email protected] (Fred Fish)
Subject: Re: VLT and XPR
Date: 10 Sep 89 19:31:11 GMT
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Shan D Duncan) writes:
>I have looked at the fish disk 226 for the latest Vlt (3 series). This
>has some problems that have been corrected in the 4 series (I've found
>4.059 on a local BBS, but have not seen 4.064). I have never seen
>any xpr library except the ascii.
Vlt version 4.065 is on disk number 245, finished just a few days
ago. It is the first of a new batch that should be released in
about a week. Disks 237-244 were released about a week ago.
An update to xprlib from disk 226 is on disk 240.
-Fred
--
# Fred Fish, 1835 E. Belmont Drive, Tempe, AZ 85284, USA
# 1-602-491-0048 asuvax!{nud,mcdphx}!estinc!fnf
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2874.32 | New version of VLT | CGOFS::CADAMS | Clint Adams - Calgary, Canada | Thu Sep 21 1989 00:38 | 13 |
|
VLT Version 4.069 can be found at cgou01::amnew:vlt4p069.zoo. The
readme just says bug fixes for the XPR stuff.
I ran it up and the parity and flow control settings stay the same
after a download.
For the money ;>) , this is the best emulator to come along yet.
Regards... Clint
|
2874.33 | Much better | TALLIS::MCAFEE | Steve McAfee | Wed Sep 27 1989 14:39 | 15 |
| re: .32
Thanks Clint. This version seems much better. I used it all evening
last night without a single problem. Zmodem resume even works for
me now.
I think I will probably use this exclusively now. The only thing which
is slightly annoying is that sometimes when garbage comes over the line
VLT throws me into the TEK graphics window. Only happened once or
twice though. I'd like to totally disable the TEK capability, but I
haven't figured out how yet?
regards,
steve
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2874.34 | | STARCH::STOFFEL | | Thu Sep 28 1989 02:25 | 9 |
|
Steve, one way of keeping you from going into Tek mode is to goto the
far right menu (Graphics) in VLT and select the "Lock Graphics" option.
This will keep you from getting changed over by accident. BTW, I have
VLT 4.036, what is the latest version and is it availalbe on TAPE:: ?
John
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2874.35 | | WJG::GUINEAU | Impossible Concentration | Thu Sep 28 1989 08:39 | 9 |
| I like the idea of having VTxx and ZMODEM in one comm program.
BUT - I like JRComm's ZMODEM "transfer in progress" window that gives you
lots of nice information - like estimated time to complete, real time,
size, amont transfered etc..
Is there an XPRZMODEM option which will give this info?
John
|
2874.36 | Numeric Keypad Selector Bug | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Fri Sep 29 1989 09:49 | 4 |
| There is still an annoying bug with deselecting the numeric keypad. Try
it by going into VTX.
|
2874.37 | | STARCH::STOFFEL | | Tue Oct 03 1989 22:58 | 7 |
|
You can find a copy of XprZmodem on one of the last 10 Fred Fish Disks
or so. I've got it setup on my machine, but I haven't tried it yet.
For my money, VLT is the best comm program around. Better than comm
1.34 which was my favorite for ages! But VLT is here to stay.
|
2874.38 | | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Wed Oct 04 1989 10:34 | 8 |
| I'm using VLT exclusively now, although I wish it would emulate a 220 or
340! setiing the number of lines to either 24 or 48 is critical if you
want to use SNIPIT V1.2A though. Oh, how could I ever live without
SNIPIT.
-Paul
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2874.39 | How about Smokey? | WILARD::BARRETT | Wait'll they get a load of me | Mon Oct 09 1989 17:50 | 2 |
| I currently use SMOKEY (the advantage of being a DEC employee). Is VLT
better than it? Is SMOKEY still being worked on and improved?
|
2874.40 | More VLT (V4.058) questions | BELFST::MCCLINTOCK | Peter | Tue Oct 10 1989 19:27 | 19 |
| 1 One of the earlier replies to this note suggested that the pingserver
problem could be fixed by setting Program Mode On ... this is all
very well but ... how do you get the bell to work?
2 Also, could someone who has got VLT to do a good job with the function
keys post their VLT.Prefs file for me?
3 I have found some funnies with TPU (like right now). When I use
the uparrow key the cursor doesnt move until I type it a second
time ... strange?? Also when inserting chars on a line the screen
appears like I am in overstrike mode then if I delete a char or
cause a screen refresh the hidden chars reappear. Can anyone make
sense of this?
I have generally been using Smokey for terminal emulation up to
now but VLT has better comms. Being able to use a 1k packet size
with Kermit certainly cuts down on the overhead.
Peter
|
2874.41 | It's only VT100... | FRAMBO::BALZER | Christian Balzer DTN:785-1029 | Wed Oct 11 1989 06:00 | 16 |
| Re: .40
First of get VLT 4.069, available form CGOU01::AMNEW: if my memory
serves me correctly.
Regarding (3), be sure to set your terminal to VT100 mode, since
VLT is after all only a VT100 emulator...
I've been bitten by this, too. Started to swear loudly, reflected
a bit over the docs, did a "set term/dev=vt100" and voila, works
like advertised.
Someone with the ability to contact Willy Langeveld (sp??) should
try to convince him to upgrade this baby to VT200 support...
Regards,
<CB>
|
2874.42 | VLT132 Indentation in Window | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Wed Oct 11 1989 12:53 | 5 |
| Funny thing about VLT in interlace mode ... it defaults to the VLT132
font and indents about 2 inches into the window. Seems like wasted space
to me. Is there a setting I am missing? Why does it indent like that?
-Paul
|
2874.43 | Still looking for VLT.init | BELFST::MCCLINTOCK | Peter | Wed Oct 11 1989 17:45 | 8 |
| OK ... Ive upgraded to V4p069 and set terminal to VT100. That has
fixed the funnies but I still dont have a bell and could do with
a VLT.init with the function key defs in it.
Can anyone help.
Regards
Peter
|
2874.44 | Delete VTPrefs and start over.. | CGOFS::CADAMS | Clint Adams - Calgary, Canada | Wed Oct 11 1989 19:07 | 13 |
|
To get the bell working I had to delete the VTPrefs.dat that came
with the distribution and create a new one (just del the VTprefs
and do a save config.). The one that comes with seems to assume
that you have Arexx or something. Also set your bell volume to
64. Worked for me.
As far as function keys, I don't define any, I don't even have a
vlt.init.
regards.... Clint
|
2874.45 | Still hopeful | BELFST::MCCLINTOCK | Peter | Tue Oct 17 1989 18:23 | 5 |
| I'm still hoping that someone can post a VLT.init or VTPrefs.dat file
with the VT200 function key definitions for VLT. Surely someone who is
using VLT has already been through all this.
Peter
|
2874.46 | Latest VLT | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Wed Oct 25 1989 17:10 | 5 |
| I hear that VLT4J226.ZOO has been released on BIX. The "J" stands for
junior. It omits the TEKtrronix stuff. The complete shibang is available
as VLT4226.ZOO.
Does anyone have this yet?
|
2874.47 | ZMODEM implementation? | DECWET::DAVIS | midiot W/O a patcher/router | Thu Oct 26 1989 02:13 | 9 |
| I finally got VLT working (am using it). I am able to login with a
script up to the password prompt. Could go further but will not for
obvious reasons. Anyway, my question is how do I implement ZMODEM?
I've got the library but how do I start it on the VAX? Does it work
with VLT4p069? Does your terminal default to TEK whenever you end your
terminal session? Can I get rid of that annoyance? More questions but
will spend more time with VLT.
mark
|
2874.48 | FYI | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Thu Oct 26 1989 11:51 | 25 |
| >> Anyway, my question is how do I implement ZMODEM?
On the VLT Transfer Menu, select "Protocol" followed by "External."
A requester will appear listing the xpr libraries in your libs:
directory. Choose xprzmodem.library. Now your VLT is all set up. You
shouldn't have to alter any of the default settings.
On the VAX side you need a couple programs, ZMODEMR and ZMODEMS (receive
and send). Define them in your login.com file as foreign commands.
To send a file to the Amiga.you would type,
ZMODEMS filename.typ
ZMODEM is a "smart" transfer protocol, so all you need to do is select
"Receive File" from the VLT Transfer Menu to get things going. If a
requester appears, just hit RETURN.
>> Does your terminal default to TEK whenever you end your
>> terminal session? Can I get rid of that annoyance?
Under the Graphics Menu, select the "Lock Graphics" option. That should
take care of your problem. Be sure to save your configuration.
-Paul
|
2874.49 | VAX ZMODEM LOC? | DECWET::DAVIS | Mark Davis - 206.865.8749 | Thu Oct 26 1989 15:01 | 4 |
| Thanks, Paul. One last question, is "ZMODEMS/ZMODEMR" the same as
RZ/SZ found on the net and where can I find the latest versions?
mark
|
2874.50 | | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Fri Oct 27 1989 10:44 | 9 |
|
>> Thanks, Paul. One last question, is "ZMODEMS/ZMODEMR" the same as
>> RZ/SZ found on the net and where can I find the latest versions?
Yup.
dickns::user:[macdonald.amiga.vms]
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2874.51 | menu - not external protocol | DECWET::DAVIS | Mark Davis - 206.865.8749 | Fri Oct 27 1989 20:26 | 26 |
| I am unable to get ZMODEM in VLT working. I have xprzmodem.library in my
s: directory and a "pretty standard" VLT.init. Here's what happens:
I run "sz" on the VAX. It waits.. On VLT I select external
protocol and get a requestor within which I select xprzmodem.
library, then I select receive file. I immediately get a
small window that says, "menu - not external protocol" or
something very close to that. Eventually the VAX times out
with a "W" message saying that it was unable to connect with
device.
I've tried vlt4p058, vlt4p064, and vlt4p069 with the same
results. I copied xprzmodem.zoo from the net and used with
the above results. I've used the xprzmodem from FF236(?) with
the same results.
I know some of you are using ZMODEM/VLT. What are your procedures?
Is there a VLT menu item that I am not setting or some hack in VLT.init
that I am unaware? Do I sound obsessed? �^)
Mark
p.s. rz/sz is defined foreign. Should I do an assign on the AMIGA? Maybe
build a new VTprefs.dat?
|
2874.52 | This should help..... | GIDDAY::LAWSON | | Fri Oct 27 1989 22:32 | 3 |
| You should have XPRZMODEM.LIBRARY in your LIBS directory
Glenn
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2874.53 | Capitals in vlt scripts and external protocols | DECWET::TBAKER | Tom Baker - DECwest CSSE | Fri Oct 27 1989 22:57 | 16 |
| VLT is very strange about capitalization. I converted my
dialwork.script from smokey to S:DIALWORK.SCP for use with VLT.
It worked fine when I selected VLT Macro from the menu, but when
I bound it to F10 in vlt.init VLT told me it was not a script file.
It didn't say it couldn't find it (which it did if I put it somewhere
where it really could find it). Anyway, making it all lowercase fixed
my problem.
The same thing happened with zmodem. I had XPRzmodem.library in
LIBS: and VLT would always tell me it wasn't an external protocol.
I made it all lowercase and it worked fine. Well not fine, I got
Software Task Held and the GURU after 4 blocks of the transfer.
So then I renamed xprzmodem.nosflush to xprzmodem.library and
everything worked fine.
tom
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2874.54 | | DECWET::TBAKER | Tom Baker - DECwest CSSE | Fri Oct 27 1989 23:02 | 6 |
| re. .-1
I forgot to mention I'm using VLT version 4.069 and
xprzmodem version 1.0
tom
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2874.55 | V 4.226 | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Mon Oct 30 1989 08:47 | 17 |
| V4.226 of VLT has some nice new features:
o All of the zmodem values now update on the screen during the transfer
o The file transfer screen no longer forces the terminal screen behind
Workbench
o There is a nicely executed review buffer facility
Various other little fixes and features. I tried both the upload and
download zmodem last night and it works fine. However, the upload to
the VAX seems to take a couple minutes to start.
(BTW, the LHARC'ed version is about 40K smaller than the ZOO'ed version!)
-Paul
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2874.56 | need XPRZmodem version 2 | CGOFS::DREW | Steve Drew | Mon Oct 30 1989 15:59 | 18 |
| >Various other little fixes and features. I tried both the upload and
>download zmodem last night and it works fine. However, the upload to
>the VAX seems to take a couple minutes to start.
This is because VLT now implements XPR protocol 2.0 Spec, which changed
the handling of the serial port, But XPRZmodem still uses the old XPR
spec. This results in VLt waiting about 30 secs or so until is returns
the characters read to Zmodem. (I ran into this myself when I wrote a
interface into XPRZmodem for my AUX: handler.)
I read on usenet that XPRZmodem version 2 will be sent to .binaries
shortly.
As for VLT in general, its the best! I see no need to ever bother
with Vt100, I can't think of anything that VT100 can do that VLT
can't, and does it faster and better.
/Steve.
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2874.57 | VLT Junior available?? | BELFST::MCCLINTOCK | Peter | Wed Nov 01 1989 18:02 | 5 |
| Re: .46
Is VLT4J226 avaliable on the net?
Peter
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2874.58 | VLT beep when Xfer done? | DECWET::DAVIS | Mark Davis - 206.865.8749 | Fri Nov 03 1989 13:31 | 16 |
| XPRZmodem V2.0 is great! If you don't have it, GET IT!
I am unable to get VLT to sound a beep when logged onto a host. For instance,
when VMS should beep the terminal I get nothing. When I had VLT beep volume set
to 64 (in the past) and VMS sounded a beep, VLT put "6464" on my VMS command
line. Now I have "beep volume" defined as "0", "playbeep or installbeep or
whatever the sound-instead-of-flash util is" installed and VLT will beep if I
make a mistake "locally" but not when the VAX beeps.
I typed "^G" on the VAX with no results. In my dialup scripts I had to redefine
"^M" to "*X2" to get <cr> to work. Maybe I need to do the same with "^G".
Any ideas?
mark
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2874.59 | 'program mode' | CGOFS::DREW | Steve Drew | Mon Nov 06 1989 10:40 | 9 |
| There is a pull down, that contains an item "program mode" if enabled,
I believe VLT interprets the bell item as a command. (See the docs).
For a working VLT, XPRZMODEM, Bell init file, you can try
AMNEW::VTPrefs.DATA
/Steve.
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2874.60 | Bing Bing | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Mon Nov 06 1989 10:46 | 18 |
|
>> I am unable to get VLT to sound a beep when logged onto a host. For
>> instance, when VMS should beep the terminal I get nothing.
Piece of cake ..
1. Turn ON Program Mode.
2. Select the Bell Volume option.
3. Delete the information in the requester and exit the requester.
4. Turn OFF Program Mode.
5. Select the Bell Volume option and set the value (-64 through 64) and
exit the requester.
6. Save the configuration.
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2874.61 | VLT V4.226 bugs | DICKNS::MACDONALD | WA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25 | Mon Nov 06 1989 10:50 | 16 |
|
I have noticed some possible bugs in VLT V4.226.
1. When attempting to upload a .zoo file with zmodem, the transfer
aborted due to receipt of a "Skip" command. Dunno why or how.
2. When performing a Kermit upload, ZMODEM appears in the status window
rather then KERMIT.
3. The file transfer status window does not close automatically at the
conclusion of a file transfer (perhaps a feature).
4. The ASCI color display does not respond properly to IBM color ascii
commands.
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2874.62 | ZMODEM complete beep? | DECWET::DAVIS | Mark Davis - 206.865.8749 | Wed Nov 08 1989 18:05 | 7 |
| I read in the latest VLT notes that upon termination of transfers
VLT will beep twice. Is this only with its internal protocols? It
would be nice if I could get some indication when my ZMODEM transfers
are finished. Has anyone gotten it to beep after ZMODEM transfer
completion??
mark
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2874.63 | | WJG::GUINEAU | Quantum Reality | Wed Nov 08 1989 18:50 | 6 |
| Ok, I'm lazy, I didn't read the manual yet.
How do I get VLT to use a font which gets 80 chars/line and DOESN'T switch
to that skinny, putrid , unreadable font?
John
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2874.64 | Bell on Send | DECWET::DAVIS | Mark Davis - 206.865.8749 | Thu Nov 09 1989 14:26 | 6 |
| <add-on to .62>
VLT(jr) will beep twice upon completion of a ZMODEM file send but will
not on a file receive.
md
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2874.65 | Smokey vs VLT | WILARD::BARRETT | Wait'll they get a load of me | Tue Dec 12 1989 17:25 | 3 |
| Is VLT the program of choice amoung DEC employees? Should I
switch from SMOKEY (is SMOKEY even being worked on anymore)? Does
VLT support SIXEL or REGIS?
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2874.66 | Key-bindings for the a1000 | NOBHIL::BODINE_CH | | Wed Dec 20 1989 20:27 | 8 |
| Does anybody know what the key-bindings are for the Amiga 1000 in VLT? I
can't find it in the documentation anywhere. I like using VLT for zmodem
transfers, but I hate not having full key-bindings.
Anybody?...Anybody?
Chris
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2874.67 | One more try | NOBHIL::BODINE_CH | | Fri Dec 29 1989 23:11 | 19 |
| > -< Key-bindings for the a1000 >-
>
>Does anybody know what the key-bindings are for the Amiga 1000 in VLT? I
>can't find it in the documentation anywhere. I like using VLT for zmodem
>transfers, but I hate not having full key-bindings.
>
>Anybody?...Anybody?
>
>
>Chris
Somebody must have the answer to this simple question. Or is it that
there are no loyal a1000 owners left. I believe there is some additional
documentation somewhere that I don't have privy to.
Trying again...
Chris
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2874.68 | i don't use it... | NAC::BRANNON | value added | Tue Jan 02 1990 19:16 | 3 |
| Or it could be that Amiga 1000 owners like myself don't use VLT.
dennis
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