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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
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Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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2772.0. "New Display Mode: Sliced HAM" by LEDS::ACCIARDI () Fri Jul 28 1989 07:54

    
    This weekend I hope to post some files pertaining to a new display mode
    for the Amiga.  'Sliced HAM', developed by Rhett Anderson, allows the
    display of 4096 colors on screen without using HAM techniques.  This
    eliminates the color fringing and other HAM limitations.
    
    The technique seems to be similar to methods used on other systems to
    display an unnatural number of colors on screen (ie; Spectrum format
    for the Atari) where some very fast routines are used to diddle the
    pallette within the time needed to display one scan line.
    
    The files include a viewer, called ShamView, and a few sample 256 color
    VGA images.  Also included are some file converters to change VGA into
    Sliced HAM.
    
    This may just be a curiosity; then again, it may turn into a new IFF
    format.  Either way, it's something new to explore.
    
    Watch this space =>  
    
    Ed
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2772.1LEVERS::PLOUFFFather of Pooh fanaticFri Jul 28 1989 10:4611
    Is this related to the new display mode being developed by Steven
    Derek Schaem in California?  Usenet has carried a long string of
    messages about how many colors you can display in a hi-res picture
    using the Copper chip to swap palette colors on the fly.  Consensus
    on the net was that between the 68000 and the Copper, you could
    change about 14 colors per scanline.  And have no computes left
    over for anything else!
    
    But is sure sounds nifty...
    
    Wes
2772.2SHAM is here...LEDS::ACCIARDISun Jul 30 1989 01:2429
    
    I don't think this is the same effort Wes, but it wouldn't surprise me
    if more than one faction were working towards that goal.  This effort is
    actually by some Compute! publications people.
    
    Anyway, I've uploaded some goodies to NORSE""::AMIGA:[UPLOAD].
    
    Shamview.zoo	Viewer for Sliced HAM images, and some VGA=>SHAM
    			conversion tools.  Also some documentation.
    
    Face.arc		256 color SHAM image of a female(?) face.
    
    Orang.arc		256 color SHAM image of an Orangutan and her kid.
    			This image is stunning.
    
    By the way, the author states in the included docs that his SHAM code
    is pretty slow and sloppy at this point, and will someday be written in
    68000 ML.  I can testify that this mode beats up on the Copper pretty
    badly, since sliding a custom screen down is like watching a glacier. 
    However, it is one of the more interesting things to come along in a
    while.  Check it out.
    
    All files are in Stream_LF format for Xmodem downloading.
    
    Enjoy, Ed.
    				
    
    
    
2772.3Ed, more info...?GIAMEM::I_SHAWI hate LJ252-Amiga problems.Mon Jul 31 1989 14:1215
>    Orang.arc		256 color SHAM image of an Orangutan and her kid.


	Ed, can you post some more info?  i.e.

	
Are there only 256 colors allowed, or is this the `base' color and others
can be obtained by changing them (like HAM)?

Are they hi or low res, interlaced?

How glacier-like is it?	

thanx,
--mikie--
2772.4LEDS::ACCIARDIMon Jul 31 1989 22:5436
    
    The documentation included is a bit incoherent, but I inferred that the
    256 color images were 320 x 200 VGA conversions.  The author claims
    that real 4096 color images are possible, and is working on displaying
    24 bit DigiView images.
    
    From the included docs:
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Introduction
    
    Welcome to Sliced Ham. Over the last year I've been thinking about
    writing a 24-bit paint program for the Amiga. Sliced Ham is a
    byproduct of that product.
    
    In effect, Sliced Ham gives you HAM images that lack the fringes so
    commonly found in that mode. It works by changing the palette on each
    and every scan line. 15 colors are changed each line during the
    horizontal retrace period. It just so happens that there is precisely
    enough time for these changes. Just as well, because you wouldn't want
    the background color to change on each line (although I suppose you
    could cover up the mess with sprites--I'll have to think about it).
    
    This package provides you with a way of looking at those great
    256-color 320 by 200 VGA GIF files. Soon I'll have conversion units to
    let you view 24 bit Digi-View, Framegrabber, and other files in
    (virtually) all their glory. I'd appreciate any information about file
    formats, including Mac II pictures.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    My own opinion is that I've seen much better HAM images, but these
    pictures have a unique quality that's hard to define.  Certainly worth
    the download.
    
    Ed.
    
2772.5hmmmGUCCI::HERBTue Aug 01 1989 01:545
    Does anybody think that in the future somebody will figure out some
    trick to do 4096 colors in hi--res??
    
    matt
    
2772.6With the A5000-X??? :-)FRAMBO::BALZERChristian Balzer DTN:785-1029Tue Aug 01 1989 04:0614
    Re: .5
    
    If Heiko modified his CopV hack a bit, he could do it right now.
    The REAL problem is to display any color at any position.
    This is impossible with our current hardware.
    Like someone on UseNet said, you can't change the color register by
    far not often enough per horizontal scan line to achive the desired
    effect.
    But using this technique, some very stunning (and CPU/Copper intensive)
    pictures should be possible.
    
    Regards,
    
    <CB>
2772.7Well....GIAMEM::I_SHAWI love rainchecks...Thu Aug 10 1989 09:297
	I downed these last night.  There were only a few net glitches (some
pixel problems).  But I didn't find them overly impressive.  Maybe it's 
because they were 320x200.   I've seen regular HAM images that look that 
good, so I'm not sure of the use of SHAM.  Unless there are 640x400 pictures
in that format.  Then I'm sure the pix would really cook.

--mikie--