Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    PACKMANIA (sp?) great graphics, fast.  A 3D version of Packman.  
    you can jump OVER the gosts!
    
    GIANNA also great graphics. A clone of Mario bros. on nintendos.
    
    There are more, but since I am not a game player, I am not up on
    the latest, but those two are impressive enough to get hooked on.
                                
    Jean
    

    
    If you can be more specific as to what kind of games you like, maybe we
    can help you.  There are arcade blast 'em, strategy, role-playing,
    classic (chess etc), flight simulators and adventure types.
    
    If you're dissatisfied with Amiga games in general, I suggest you give
    up on computers and stick to the arcade machines.  Home computer games
    just don't get any better than Amiga versions.
    
    Ed,

    Arcade style games: Hybris is nice...also Sidewinder
    
    Role Playing games...The Bards tale (particularly if you like mapping)
    			 
    Interactive strategy/arcade games: Lords of the Rising sun,Rocket
                        ranger (Though both these have the typically
                        annoying Cinamaware text screens throughout)
    
    Misc: Hostage is fun...heaps of difficulty levels...a catchy tune
          or 2...reasonable graphics (though nothing marvellous)
    
        

    
    Arcade style games: Thexder, another vote for Sidewinder
    
    Role Playing games: Fairytale Adventure, Bards tale, Dungeon Master
    
    Interactive stategy/arcade: Lords of Rising sun, Rocket ranger,
    			Populous ( new, very good )
    
    others: Silent Service, Starglider, Gunship, Marble Madness,
    	Battle chess, Arkanoid,

    
    		Steve Peters
    

    and of course "Shanghai" is quite an addictive little boardgame
    simulation...

    Well here come's some of my votes for best games!
    
    Simulation(flight, etc): Falcon, Gunship
    
    Strategy/thinking(wargames, chess, etc): KiGuGi, Shanghai,
    	Balance of Power 1990 and of course EMPIRE
    
    Arcade(Shoot'em ups, etc): Datastorm (NEW Defender version, and GOOD!),
    	Hybris, SpeedBall, Pacmania
    
    Sports: TV Sports Football, Super Star Icehockey
    
    Interactive/adventure: Rocket Ranger, King of Chicago,
    	Zak MacKracken and the Alien Mindebenders
    
    - Kari
          

    My votes - in order of the amount of time spent sitting in front
    of it !
    
    1) Dungeon Master - by a long, long, way
                                         
    2) Interceptor - an easy second
    
    3) Populous - a new purchase, haven't got to grips with it yet but
    looks good.
    
    4) Silent Service
    
    On the other hand, I have to agree with .0 that there is a lot of
    tat about as well. It mays to read this notes file. Any mini-reviews
    of new games, good and BAD appreciated!
    
    My votes for some to save your money on.
    
    Defender of the Crown - this has put me off Cinemaware ever since
    				(maybe unfairly)
                                
    Zany Golf - another new purchase, based on one of the best reviews
    		ever in a UK magazine. Slow, boring, mainly such bad
    graphics that you can't see the ball. One nice graphic of a bouncing
    hamburger, but how long can you look at that for?
    
    And a couple I've had problems getting gripped by, although I accept
    they have virtues:
    
    Starglider II
    Balance of Power

	I don't know if this has been talked about, but Starglider II doesn't
`save game' properly (maybe it's fixed now).  I really liked the game, but I
always got bored and killed myself in interesting ways.  If I could have saved
the game and progressed according to the story...

--mikie--

who traded it in for Rocket Ranger, which isn't much better, imo...

    Here's some strategic/tactic (military):
    
    From SSI:
    	Rebel Charge at Chickamauga - excellent; addictive if you're into
    military simulations. Very nice screens, plays very well. Fixes almost
    all the problems with their Gettyburg - too slow, doesn't play well.
    
    From ?:
    	The Battle of the Ardennes (or something like that) - this can be
    addictive if you ignore some problems: the maps are very hard to read
    and kind of simplistic (SSI uses contours for more accurate elevation
    indication, and allows terrain to be both hilly AND wooded, whereas
    this one only allows one or the other). But it plays pretty well.
    
    From ?:
    	Universal Military Simulator (or like that) - a puzzle. Although
    I've read really positive reviews, I myself found the display (i.e.
    map) to be really hard to get accustomed to. I can't help but think
    this is one of those one-gimmick products pushed more by marketing
    types than real game players. The idea is good - a three-dimensional
    view of the battlefield - but i have a feeling the amiga is not [yet]
    strong enough to do a good job with it.
    
    
    There! more than you wanted to know about wargames on the amiga.
    
    ken

    I picked up a copy of "Bloodmoney" by PSYGNOSIS and in terms of
    sound, graphics, and gameplay is simply one the finest games I have
    seen for the Amiga.  This software is one of the few games that
    takes full advantage of the Amiga's capabilities.  We played it
    out of the box for 6 hours.  Two of my neighbors (one has an Atari
    and the other has a PC clone) played with me when I first got it;
    Both neighbors are now in the process of selling their machines
    to get an Amiga 500 and Bloodmoney...                        
    
    Joe H.
    
    P.S.
    
    (In terms of games, I also have Dragon's Lair, TV Sports Football, and F18)

    This is also by Psygnosis and it's a killer.  I picked it up last
    week and have already spent too much time on it.  Saving games is
    a must.  Good blend of strategy and action.  Great sampled screams
    when you or a beastie dies.
    
    Peter O

    My vote goes for Vyper by Top Down.  It is real similar to the old
    Arcade game Galaxia, only faster and with more variety, and no quarter
    slot.
    
    Alan
    

    Here's a few games which I rate quite highly:-
        
  
    Populous - One of the best and original games to date on the Amiga,
    	       go out and buy it! (Electronic Arts?)
    
    Silkworm - A brilliant arcade conversion, lots of sprites all moving
               at great speed.  Nice two player option. (Virgin)

    Kick Off - The best footy game around on the Amiga.  This is an
               arcade game with throw-ins, corner kicks, penalties, 
    	       yellow and red cards.  The player control is tricky 
    	       to start with but you'll soon be performing overhead kicks 
               with the greatest of ease!!!    
    

    
    - Herbie.

    I have played double dribble on a nintendo and then played fastbreak
    on a amiga. Even though the amiga had better graphics and sound
    then the nintendo the nintendo game was much funner. It is this
    way for a lot of games.
    
    I like a amiga game that has smooth movemont,good control of your
    character and quick paced. The only game on the amiga that I have
    that are like that is Hybris,speedball and space pilot 89. Get thos
    games!
    
    
    matt
    

I've just played Menace recently and found it to have good, smooth-scrolling
graphics just like Hybris.  Unfortunately, the game play is almost exactly
like Hybris too (except that you shoot and move to the right instead of up
the screen).  Still, it's a pretty good one.

re: .-1  (Speedball)  I can't keep up with this one!!  That ball flys around
real, REAL fast!

...richard

    Another thing I liked about nintendo is that the control pad had
    4 buttons instead of 1. Really improves gamplay. Yea,speedball is
    the fastes paced game I have ever played.
    
    matt
    

    
    RE .16
    
        A better game controller can easily be built with parts from
    your local Radio Shack.  I built one which has all buttons and
    used it on "Space Killers".  this works best with rotaional games.
    Of course the best would be if CBM would come up with a game controller
    with a proportioanal joystick and buttons.  By the way my research
    indicates that the hardware could support two such controllers with
    each having an analog joystick and at least two buttons. (I will
    post the exact figure.)  Anyone interested in starting a company?
    Would DEC let us keep our real jobs till we became rich?
    
       I will post the schematic and details sometime next week.
    
    Harry DTN 238-4313
    

This months Amazing Computing has an article on using an Analog Joystick
on Amy.

I have always felt that too many Amiga games have detailed complex animation 
at the expense of game play...  

	If you like fast action- really insane games that make you sweat- then
Datastorm is the king of the hill.  It's a Defender clone that is better than
the Arcade version, with many, many added suprises.

	That's my biased opinion (I am severly addicted to this game).

    Yeah,I agree with .19. Look at some of the 8-bit games. Simple graphics
    but smooth animation and fast.
    
                                          matt
    

    
    I know its been around a while but I've just got my hands on Carrier
    Command and find it pretty good.
    It's a starglider type game where you control an aircraft carrier,
    planes, amphibious vehicles and use resources to overcome another
    enemy carrier in a group of islands. All in filled 3d as well.
    Try it you can probably get it quite cheaply.
    
     Dave

    I bought Datastorm this weekend because I loved to play defender.
    The game is good but not as playable as I would like.  It is too
    fast! Can you believe it?  Actually with a slight modification of
    the control parameters and some different joystick stuff it would
    be a little better.  Maybe the new gravis joystick would be better?
    This is definitely a bang-bang shoot-em-up.

    A few facts;

    	1. The up/down motion responds very fast however with the joystick
           in the level position the ship tends to sink by itself which
           is a pain because it will not hover and rises and sinks to fast.

        2. Direction is controlled by the right and left of the joystick.
           This is not as good as having a reverse direction and a thrust
           button or a reverse direction and have the current direction
           be thrust and the reverse be braking.  The problem with the
           current scheme is that when I stopped forward motion there
           was a marked tendency to reverse direction, this made shooting
           at a fast moving target very difficult.  However shooting in
           both direction was easy.

    	3. The fast targets were killers.

    	4. Two player modes were fun.  There were 4 modes.
           a. One player.
           b. Two players alternate with one joystick.
           b. Two players alternate with two joysticks.
           b. Two players together.

        5. I was unable to back up the game using marauder.

  Overall I would give this game;

        10 - Graphics & Sound
         7 - Joystick motion.
         8 - Overall play.
    

    	I would recommend TV Sports Football to all those who love
    	American Football.  I have had many hours of fustrating
        enjoyment playing this game.
    		
    	Also a game I purchesed the other day is KICK OFF 2 which is
    	a socer game that has all the thrills and spills of the worlds
    	greatest sport with action replys that you can save and look
    	at time and time again.
    
    	Could anybody please recommend any good Sports Games that are
    	currently on the market.  Especially American Football Games
    	as I have heard rumours about a new game that is better than
    	TV Sports Football but have no idea when it is going to be
    	released or what it actually does that is different to TV Sports
    	Football.  
    
    	If anybody in the States (The home of Football) knows of any
    	American Football games that are not totally mind games, could
    	they mail me on KERNEL::JenkinsD.
    
    						DTN 7833 7333 Ask.
    
    					Cheers Darrell