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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2425.0. "Make-before-break contacts?" by SUBSYS::BUSCH (Dave Busch, NKS1-2/H6) Mon Apr 03 1989 11:42

A couple of days ago I bought an A-B-C data switch box so that I can select 
between a printer, Digi-View and an audio digitizer on the parallel port. I 
opened the box up to check out the insides and found that the switches have
"make-before-break" contacts. Can anyone tell me if that is likely to cause
problems? 

Also, what is the maximum safe limit to the current that can be drawn from the
+5v (pin 14) on the parallel port? I need to be able to drive six IR LEDS plus
one TTL chip from this source for a sensor that I'm building.

Dave
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2425.1MTWAIN::MACDONALDWA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25Mon Apr 03 1989 13:457
    I use a Digital ABC box for my DigiView and Printer. It works fine.
    Only catch is that there appear to be some grounding incompatibilities
    between the printer cable and the DigiView module that require some
    occasionally tweaking of the cables on the back of the box.
    
    Paul
    
2425.2Switch box for serial port?MEMORY::BERKSONThink honk if you're a telepathTue Apr 04 1989 10:474
    Does anyone have experience using one of these sort of boxes for
    the serial port?
    
      Mitch
2425.3Check pins 1 and 15DPDMAI::ANDERSONATue Apr 04 1989 18:4818
    I am using an LQPX2 serial switch box on my parallel port.  Just
    keep in mind that for a serial device pin 1 is grounded and the
    other 24 pins are switched.  On the parallel port pin 1 is STROBE*
    and must be switched also.  Pin 15 on the parallel port is not used
    so I disconnected pin 15 and wired pin 1 in its place, on all three
    connectors.  This may be the ground problem mentioned in .1.
    
    Pin 14 according to the Amiga manual page A-5 supplys 100mA @+5V.
    
    I would recomend turning off your Amiga prior to switching.  The
    last I heard the 8520 chip was going for around $40 - $50 each.
    There have been a few comments in this notes file about damaging
    the Amiga and or connected device while changing cables with power
    on. 
    
    Alan
    
    
2425.4Works for meMDKCSW::DAVISThat's not a BUG, it's a FEATURE!Tue Apr 04 1989 19:3313
I've got ABCD switches on both my serial and parallel ports.  Works great
for me.  I use it for the following:

       Serial Port:               Parallel Port:
         A: Modem                   A:  Printer
         B: Terminal                B:  Perfect Sound
         C: MIDI                    C:  Digiview (someday, hopefully!)

I haven't had any problems switching with the Amiga turned on, but that
doesn't mean that it's a good idea necessarily.  I doubt that my switches
always break-before-make though; they were cheapies.

...richard
2425.58520 is $17.50MEMORY::BERKSONThink honk if you're a telepathWed Apr 05 1989 09:536
    re .3:
    
    The 8520 costs $17.50 at Memory Location.  I know.  I've bought
    two.
    
      Mitch
2425.6MEIS::ZIMMERMANFresh from the sewer!Mon Apr 10 1989 13:299
    I've got a Digital AB box connecting the serial port to a Scholar and 
    an LA50.  Once a long time ago I switched between devices and the 
    A500 went crazy - lights blinked, the drive began clicking, real 
    scary.  Could have been that both the printer and the modem were 
    turned on at the time.  Now days I keep the printer turned off when 
    I switch devices, and I've had no problems.

    - Cliff
2425.7AUNTB::PRESSLEYMon Apr 10 1989 16:242
    I have the exact same setup except I use an a1000.  The printer
    may be off or on.  I 've had no problems.
2425.8hot switching works for meCIMNET::KYZIVATPaul KyzivatWed Apr 12 1989 19:126
    I have an A-B-C (relatively cheap, purchased mail order from Jim Black)
    and I switch without problem between an LA50 and a Scholar, both
    powered up.  On the other hand, I have them on A & C, with B unused, so
    make-before-break should not affect me.

	Paul
2425.9How about the parallel port?SUBSYS::BUSCHDave Busch, NKS1-2/H6Thu Apr 13 1989 13:036
The past few replies refer to switching on the serial port. Has anybody had any
good/bad experiences while switching the parallel port?

Dave


2425.10Mechanical Switch on parallel portCHPSC::STEIGERThu Apr 13 1989 14:2315
The issues around ports are typically that when you are unplugging
    replugging connectors you may induce two types of hazards - one
    - ground and or supply voltages are disconnected before the signal
    lines and - two - inducing static voltages on the signal lines.
    I have a normal switch connected to the parallel port in order to
    use Digi-view, Sound-digitizer or my laser printer without having
    to switch off and on the computer when changing the device. It is
    a break and then make type which I feel is safer than a make and
    break as you could have the load of both devices at the same time
    when switching. I have not had any problems with it so far.
    The second (better) choice is a electronic switch using
    bi-directional tri-state logic internally there you should not have
    problems at all.
    
    Ernst