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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2326.0. "Help needed for A2000 fan upgrade?" by MANTIS::LONG () Mon Mar 06 1989 13:35

I have a noisy fan in my 2000 so in USENET I see the virtues of Panasonic 
and Radio Shack 12VDC fans ( low dB's ). I pick up a Radio Shack fan, carefully
remove the original one ( vacuum cleaner in one hand and drill in the other 
because the fan is mounted in with pop rivits 8^{ ).  At this point I notice 
that the original fan is 120VAC.  Was there a change in fan voltage between 
chassie version 3.9 and whatever is shipping today?  If not, where is everyone 
tying into the 12 volt supply?
	
	Dick
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2326.1MTWAIN::MACDONALDWA1OMM 7.093/145.05/223.58 AX.25Mon Mar 06 1989 15:475
    I believe the newer models have the fan mounted with screws. At
    least mine is. And, I can't say for sure what the voltage is. I
    believe it is 12 volts. I put a 10Kohm potentiometer on mine and
    mounted it on one of the removable panels on the back. It reduces
    the speed and the noise.
2326.2special 2-pin plugJFRSON::OSBORNEBlade WalkerTue Mar 07 1989 09:359
> where is everyone tying into the 12 volt supply?

There is a little 2-pin connector on the pc board directly "behind" the
fan, between a transformer and a capacitor. This is where my old fan,
which was 12VDC at approx 2 amps, was plugged in. It was also mounted
with screws. The Panaflow fan from Digi-view turned out to be a *tight*
fit, but works fine.

John O
2326.3I've got the plans- "Aber Lesen Sie Deutsch?"TSECAD::BURWENTue Mar 07 1989 13:1711
    	Just out of the blue, I started writing to a pen pal in Germany
    who has an Amiga.  He remarked that the German articles are better
    than the American ones, and despite my patiotic inclinations I would
    have to agree.  The article he sent me, contains complete plans
    for building a voltage regulator complete with all connections shown
    for tying this into the existing fans, and he reports to me that
    it really gets rids of that "Lautstarke".  If you sprech any Deutsch
    I'll be happy to send you a copy.
    
    							Cheers,
    							Rick Burwen
2326.4MANTIS::LONGWed Mar 08 1989 10:067
Must be my chassie version as I'm not finding things in the same position as
everyone else.  What I did was steal power from the power connector for the 
second internal floppy which I won't be using anyway.  Oh the joys of having
an early version system.  At least I can hear now.
	Thanks,

		Dick
2326.5Here's one answer at least!TSECAD::BURWENWed Mar 08 1989 15:4722
    Dick:
    
    	I just finally got around to translating the German article,
    I mentioned.  I can't answer the question about why your fans are
    labelled 120 VAC, but I can try with the other question.  According
    to the article the two wires that go to the fan are d-c voltages.
    The article says to cut both of these and insert a series regulator
    in between.  The red wire is the positive d-c and the blue wire
    is the minus side (return).  The output voltage of the regulator
    is +6.5 V dc and they have placed a thermistor (NTC-negative temp
    coeff. resistor) in order to boost the voltage slightly when the
    cabinet gets slightly warmer.
    
    	I can send you the English translation and the circuit diagram
    if you like, but first you'll need an answer on your original question
    about the 120VAC.  My article is obviously presuming you've got
    low voltage dc.  By the way, the circuit is simple enough, but if
    you know anything about regulator design you might prefer to use
    an I.C.- this uses discrete.  Good luck.
    
    							Cheers,
    							Rick
2326.6Then I'll only go deaf when it's hot!MANTIS::LONGThu Mar 09 1989 07:599
Rick,
	Yes, please post it.  I measured the lines to the fan ( not only says
120 VAC on the fan, but measures 120 VAC also ). Also, I seem to be the only one
that didn't have the fan mounted with screws so I probably have a very early
2000.  The circuit you describe would be great to shut the fan ( and the noise 
) back when the need for cooling is less.

Thanks,
	Dick
2326.7WJG::GUINEAUTue Jun 12 1990 10:3218
>    Dick:
>    
>    	I just finally got around to translating the German article,
>    I mentioned.  I can't answer the question about why your fans are
>    labelled 120 VAC, but I can try with the other question.  According
>    to the article the two wires that go to the fan are d-c voltages.
>    The article says to cut both of these and insert a series regulator


Time to revisit the A2000 fan noise! I installed a Radio Shack fan (no grommets 
though) without much improvement.

Before I utilize my Software Engineer skills and design a thermistor
regulated fan speed control circuit, has someone successfully done this?

Where is the best location for the thermistor?

john