[Search for users] [Overall Top Noters] [List of all Conferences] [Download this site]

Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2265.0. "more info req" by VIVIAN::S_GOLDSTEIN (Steve G...) Thu Feb 23 1989 09:08


	Does anybody know about the Spirit Technologies HDA-506 I/F
for the Amiga 500

	Also is this just the card or more.

	How about any information on Spirit's Internal memory board.
i.e. will the standard power supply cope with upto 2MB's ...

	I have just take the list off of Able Supply Inc on note 2252
and would like to know if the power supplies  are only for U.S.A. use
or can they be used in G.B. (on 240volts 50 Hertz)

	I already have put a note on hard disk but this has not really 
helped me...
	I am trying to find out how to connect an RD5X-DB (desktop) drive
to the AMIGA...
Wouldn't be better to have just one controller ie Amiga to ST506 to disk..

			...Please help... 
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name
DateLines
2265.1HDA506 MQOFS::LECOMPTEHubert LecompteThu Feb 23 1989 12:2928
    
    	Steve here's the information I received from Spirit.
    
    	The HDA506 is a card that you plug into the side connector
    	of a A1000 or A500 that will allow you to use a IBM pc type
    	of interface (ST506 bus).
    
    	Currently it support only 2 manufacturers of interface
    	Western Digital and another one but, I cannot remember the name.
    
    	You can use either a MFM or RLL controller.
	Each controller support 2 drives.
    
    	It comes in a metal enclosure that match the color of the Amiga.
    	You can buy a ROM that will autoboot.
    
    	To make the whole thing work you have to have :
    
    	1- HDA506 (about $250.00 us)
    	2- ST506 interface ( $70.00 us)
    	3- Drive to interface cable
    	4- A power supply for the drive and HDA/interface combo
    	5- A ST506 drive (RD5X).
    
	If I want to sumarize it look like a fancy "WEDGE"

    	Hubert.
    
2265.2HPSTEK::SENNAThu Feb 23 1989 14:1712
    Steve,
    	I asked this question several months ago and did some shopping
    around. After looking at ALL posibilities I bought the C-Ltd contoller
    with the OMTI adapter for $230 directly from C-Ltd. The HDA-506
    method is more expensive. The C-Ltd people can be a pain to work
    with as seen in other notes, but after I finally got the card and
    worked with John Bernard to wade through the IDIOTIC documentation,
    its great. Pretty darn fast too! The OMTI is faster than the Adaptek.
    By the way, The price was for an RLL version.
    
    You may want to talk to John as he has had lots of experience and
    has used different kinds....(You out there John!!!)
2265.3more helpVIVIAN::S_GOLDSTEINSteve G... DTN: 847-5416Fri Feb 24 1989 09:0833

		Thanks for your help.

	I would like even more info...

		I have the possible to get an RD54-DB and would like to find 
the best way to connect it to the AMIGA...

	The drive has a 50-way D-type connector and I know that it is a
ST506 type of drive and will need the correct type of controller.

	Is there an AMIGA to ST506 controller? Will it allow the use of
external memory? Does it have it own power supply? I seem to be getting
confused between all the different types packages.

I have also noticed that We in England don't have as many good hardware
store where We can see all the different types of controllers , disks
etc...
		Or can anybody prove me wrong...
                
    Can HPSTEK::SENNA please answer with which C-Ltd Controller he used
    what box,boxes etc ...How did you conect it up.
    
    	Anybody know what CHIPS are required on the Spirit mem boards.
    Do they need a larger power supply if so where can I get a 240 Volt
    50 Hz version...
    	
			Regards
			Steve Goldstein
			DTN 847-5416 (and have me paged)
			FAX "England's international code"-1-405-6477
	            if busy "          ditto             "-1-936-5308
2265.4The Amiga Centre ScotlandAYOV28::ATHOMSONC'mon, git aff! /The Kelty ClippieFri Feb 24 1989 09:4518
    Steve,
    	I know it's not in ENGLAND :-) but I would recommend you contact
    
    The Amiga Centre Scotland
    	4 Hart Street Lane,
    	  Edinburgh
     
	Tel. 031-557-4242
    
    They are very knowledgeable and very helpful and an EXCELLENT mail
    order service. They have a lot of hardware including Hard disks,
    controllers and expansion memory in the shop. Best of all why don't
    you save up a few quid, jump on a train and come up to Gods country 
    and visit the shop (but either bring lots of � or leave it all at
    home.)
          
    
    				Alan T.
2265.5Some info on Insider 500DPDMAI::ANDERSONAFri Feb 24 1989 23:3429
    The Spirit Insider-500 uses 256K Drams.  The info I have says 150ns
    chips are ok.  It is Auto configurable unless you have it fully populated
    with 1.5 MB then you have to add the memory by running a separate
    program.  The power is .65 Amps max fully populated.  This is from
    the installation manual.   It states that the Amiga power supply
    gives you 4.3 amps and then the following info.
    
    Mother board (only)        1.69 Amps Max
    A-501 Expansion            0.40 Amps Max
    1010 Ext. Disk Drive       0.50 Amps Max
    Spirit 1.5 MB W/TC         0.65 Amps Max
    
    Total                      3.24 Amps Max                            
    
                                                   
    Add any other devices you have.  Also I wrote to Spirit and sent
    them $3.00 asking questions and they returned a floppy with
    installation information and some PD programs.  But it answered   
    all my questions.  
    
    They also have a new module that can have up to 2mb and  fully
    autoconfigurable.  The SIN 500-2 it uses 256X4 Drams.  $294.00 with
    0K.  .5Mb of 256X4 drams are $160.00
                                                          
    I plan on ordering a insider 500 soon.  I will have to give my old
    Rainbow a Lobotamy.
    
    Alan
    
2265.6Help on RD5X-BA ??DPDMAI::ANDERSONAFri Feb 24 1989 23:5826
    As for the question on the RD5X-DB.  How much room do you have between
    the top of the drive and the case?  Your best bet is to use a SCSI
    Host on the Amiga. Such as the C. Ltd SCSI 500. (They say they will
    have an Auto booting version out soon but they have been saying
    this since last Oct.).  From this device you can have a fifty pin
    ribbon cable for the SCSI bus up to six meters.  This must go to
    a SCSI to ST506 disk controller such as the Adaptec 4000A.  This
    card will fit right on top of the drive.  But you will have to
    manufacture some sort of slide.  I finnally used some old perf board
    from a local electronics stor and a few old plasti slides from
    an old PDP11/34 card cage.  The perf board was screwed to the sides
    of the drive extending about an inch above it 6/32 screws. then
    the plastic slides were mounted on the inside edge horizontally above
    the drive and the Adaptec slid in.  The Adaptec cables to the drive
    with a 36 pin cable and a 20 pin cable.  Your fifty pin D connector
    will probably have to be removed to make a hole so you can run the
    fifty pin SCSI bus cable into the Adaptec.  You will also need about 
    1 inch of clearence above the drive under the top of the drive case.
    
    The C. Ltd SCSI Host need approx 250ma from the Amiga power supply.
    The Adaptec can get its power from the drive box.  You will need
    to purchase a drive power "Y" adpater.
    
    Hope this helps.
    Alan