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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
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Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2143.0. "!� BBC Emulator �!" by SUBURB::NORRISI () Mon Jan 23 1989 09:17

    
    In the U.K the main micro used by schools is an old 8 bit machine
    called the BBC. It has much education software and also a very good
    BASIC which has a "Pascal" type of structure. Now Commodore in the
    U.K has released a emulator called "BBC Emulator" at a price of
    #49.95. What I want to know is: Is it worth it or not??
    
    Also the prospect of BBC BASIC on an Amiga is not a bad idea. Do
    you get BBC BASIC with it??
    
    I don't think the emulator will be much use to people living in
    countries other than the U.K as it didn't do particulary well in
    the U.S for example but anyone who has bought it please post what
    you think of it up here (and try to answer some of my questions
    as well!!)
    
    
    				-Ian-
                                
    
    
    
    P.S Is the ST Emulator on one of the FF discs worth getting or is
    	pretty useless???
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2143.1Beebulator!AYOV28::ATHOMSONC'mon, git aff! /The Kelty ClippieMon Jan 23 1989 09:4022
    I don't have the 'Beebulator' yet, but I am considering it very
    seriously. The articles I've read seem very impressed with it, running
    BBC basic programs up to 7-8 times faster than a Beeb !! BBC Basic
    is supplied with it and the developers are considering releasing
    it as a separate product (BBC basic at 7-8 times the speed of a
    Beeb must rate as THE fastest interpreted language of all time!)
    
    There is no facility to read BBC disks (via a 5� or otherwise) but
    the emulator includes a cable (Ami RS232 to BBC RS423) and appropriate
    S/W to transfer programs. All 'well behaved' programs will run on
    the Beebulator, specifically they say that any program that will
    run on the 2nd (6502) processor option of the Beeb will run happily
    on the Beebulator. All graphic modes are supported (except, I think,
    MODE 7 (40 x 25 teletext mode)). The only area where the Beebulator
    is not faster than (but IS equal to) the BBC is in text scrolling
    (the BBC uses hardware for speed).
    
    All in, if your children use Beebs at school, then I would seriously
    consider this product. If (when) I buy it, I'll post a more in depth
    review.
    
    				Alan T.
2143.2IGETIT::ELLISMPurring on a straight six....Mon Jan 23 1989 14:1315
    I've played with a FT copy a couple of months ago. The only thing
    it doesn't seem to manager to cope with is direct pokes (thus any
    second processor software, etc). 
    
    Yes, it is much much faster than the Beeb. One nice touch is that
    it will multitask, so you can have as many beebs as you like (Something
    the Archie can't officially do yet )
    
    For our American cousins, an ARCHIE is an Acorn Archimedes. It is 
    blindingly fast, and, for a reasonable system, about the same price
    as an A2000. It uses the ARM (Acorn Risc Machine) processor, which
    is available as a plug in board for the IBM PC. It's only limititation,
    is a lack of software.
    
    Martin
2143.3BBC Basic seems pretty reasonable on my Z88 - will the Beebulator be available in the US?COOKIE::WITHERSc: = != ==Mon Jan 23 1989 19:130
2143.4Pretty UselessTLE::RMEYERSRandy MeyersWed Jan 25 1989 15:3910
Re: .0

>    P.S Is the ST Emulator on one of the FF discs worth getting or is
>    	pretty useless???

The ST Emulator is a literal joke.  An Amiga owner overheard some ST owners
bad mouthing the Amiga by saying that the Amiga crashes all the time.  So,
he wrote an "ST Emulator" that does nothing more than display a GEM desktop
that issues "cherry bombs" (the ST version of the Guru) if you touch the
mouse or keyboard.