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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
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Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2126.0. "The Copyist by Dr. T" by SAUTER::SAUTER (John Sauter) Wed Jan 18 1989 13:47

    I picked up Dr. T's The Copyist last night, as I promised in topic
    2099, response 2.  I haven't had much time to use it yet, but already
    I'm disappointed.
    
    First the good parts: it lets you construct a score any way you want,
    sort of like a mechanical design tool.  It has an adequate array of
    symbols, and will also draw variable-size objects, like creshendos and
    slurs.  It uses a 640 by 400 screen, but is able to operate at 640 by
    200 if you prefer (I don't).
    
    Unfortunately, the product was released unfinished.  The piece that
    converts the score to a sequencer file, so you can play it, was omitted
    from the package.  I also couldn't locate the high-resolution output
    module.
    
    The description of the sequencer output says that it omits lots of
    music information that I had been hoping they would include, like
    pedal, tempo changes, volume changes, etc.  If they don't improve this
    I'll ask them for the documentation of the file formats, in the hope
    that I can construct my own program that does better.  My experience,
    however, is that companies *hate* to reveal their file formats.  I'll
    probably have to insert that information by hand in the sequencer file.
    
    The advertising for this product described three levels, I, II and III.
    I wanted level III, because it includes the best output module:
    PostScript using Adobe's Sonata font.  Only one package arrived in the
    store, called Professional.  It's price didn't correspond to the price
    of any of the three levels.  After opening the package you discover
    that it is level II: no PostScript.
    
    The only saving grace is a package insert apologizing for one of the
    missing modules and an obscure bug, and promising to fix both in
    exchange for sending in your warranty card.  Rather than hassle Steve
    at System Eyes, I have sent in the warranty card and will bug Dr. T
    directly if the replacement doesn't meet my expectations.
        John Sauter
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2126.1Related questionsPOLAR::GOSLINGThink KANATA INC.Mon Feb 27 1989 12:4411
       John, do you have Dr. T's KCS and if so, would you care to give
       us/me a brief commentary.
       
       Also, have you received any satisfaction from Dr. T regarding the
       Copyist's shortcomings and bugs you mentioned in the base note.
       
       Thanks
       
       Art
       
2126.2SAUTER::SAUTERJohn SauterMon Feb 27 1989 13:5826
    Sorry, I should have followed up on this earlier.
    
    I received the updated COPYIST from DR.T, but the high-quality output
    module was still missing.  Their telephone support hours are only 9-4,
    Monday through Friday, and they insist you be sitting at your computer
    when you call.  That isn't compatible with having a full-time non-music
    job, so I wrote them a letter instead.  They responded by replacing
    my AUX disk, solving the problem: I now can produce nice-looking output
    on my 300 dpi printer.
    
    In their response to me they also said that they expected DTP (formerly
    Level III) to be available March 15.  I'm not going to hold my breath.
    
    I have successfully captured the traditional 16 bars of Chopsticks from
    my DX7 with KCS, sent it to Copyist, printed it, sent it back to KCS,
    edited it, sent it back to Copyist, and printed it again.  Basicly,
    the package works.  I'm only beginning to learn how to use them---it
    takes longer to learn than a more integrated package like Deluxe Music
    Construction Set.
    
    The advantages over DMCS are these: more flexibility in the sequencer,
    and higher quality sheet music output.  For me, that's worth the
    additional learning that's required.  I still wish I could convey more
    information from Copyist to KCS, though.  The documentation of the file
    format is only $5---I'll probably send for it.
        John Sauter
2126.3My impressionsGOBAMA::WILSONTLTony, the HOSS TRUMPETWed Jul 25 1990 15:3626
    After nearly two years of using (and griping about) DMCS, I finally
    bought Copyist II.  Frankly, I find the package quite nice and plan to
    upgrade to the DTP version (formerly Copyist III).
    
    I have been trying to write a big band arrangement with DMCS and it is
    very cumbersome to use for output.  Now, I can enter the parts with
    DMCS and dump SMUS files into Copyist for finishing.  This technique is
    much easier than straight writing of the parts with Copyist.
    
    It does take some time to do printouts (20+ minutes on a 9-pin parallel
    printer), but the difference in print quality between this and DMCS is
    amazing.  (Also, the difference between displays is amazing).
    
    It would help if they had a simple line drawing mechanism in the editor
    to help with placing objects in boxes for highlighting, but that's
    about all I'd ask of it.
    
    The high-quality print program is separate and can run multitasked with
    the editor (provided enough memory - I have two megs).  Of this
    program, I'd like to see it be able to take several file names so I can
    run away and leave it to print out the entire book!  If anyone knows
    how to do this, I'd like to hear from you.  So far, it only puts up a
    window and takes one file at a time.
    
    I got a demo of Tiger Cub on Amiga + magazine and it does read files
    produced by Copyist.