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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

2095.0. "Booting From RAD:" by CIMAMT::CROMACK () Mon Jan 09 1989 14:16


I would like to create a RAD: disk from which I can boot,
but the install command only works on floppies.  I assume
I need to do the equivalent of an install in order for the
the amiga to boot off of rad:.  I really don't want to use
880k of memory just so I can boot off the rad:.  Does anyone
know of a way to make the RAD: bootable without being so big.
For instance, are there certain tracks I need to copy?


				Dean Cromack

For once I see an advantage in having an Amiga 1000 - I can
use the kickstart diskette.
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2095.1Can't figure out all the examplesDECEAT::LANDINGHAMGuy M., BXB1-1/F11,293-5297Mon Jan 09 1989 16:4514
    This puzzled me also; I haven't tried it yet, but I've read through
    the examples in the 1.3 manual, and none of them seem to explicitly
    state that you have to do an install on the RAD:.  The first example,
    for systems with 2MB or more of ram, does a diskcopy of the Workbench
    disk to RAD:, which I assume copies the DOS tracks also so a separate
    install isn't necessary.
    
    But the second example, which they describe as a minimal autobooting
    RAD: device holding just enough to transfer control to a hard disk,
    doesn't use diskcopy or install.  They do state that you won't need to
    insert your Workbench disk when doing a warm boot, but I don't see
    where the DOS code gets put into RAD: anywhere in the example, at
    least explicitly.  Is it done implicitly perhaps?
    
2095.2-< THEY ARE CONFUSING >-COMET::MCGEETue Jan 10 1989 01:069
    PAGE 5-7 OF THE 1.3 MANUAL APPEARS TO BE WHERE THE FILES REQUIRED
    ARE COPIED TO RAD: AFTER CONTROL IS PASSED TO THE HARD DISK.
    
    JUST A NOTE, I FOUND THAT THE MANUAL APPEARS TO HAVE AN ERROR IN
    THAT USE THE IF STATEMENTS AS SHOWN RESULTS IN AN ERROR DUE TO "NO
    ENDIF" AND DUMPS THE WARM BOOT TO A "DUMB" CLI VS THE EXPECTED REBOOT.
    THIS APPEARS TO BE CORRECTED BY NOT NESTING THE IF STATEMENTS AS
    SHOWN. 
    
2095.3It's implicitDECEAT::LANDINGHAMGuy M., BXB1-1/F11,293-5297Tue Jan 10 1989 11:2710
    Out of curiosity mostly, I tested this.  I created a RAD: with a
    high cylinder number of 7, put what I thought were the necessary
    files there to transfer control to my hard drive, and tried rebooting.
    If the Workbench disk was in df0:, my machine booted off that; if
    I removed the Workbench disk from df0:, it apparently tried to boot
    from RAD:.  I say "tried" because it only got as far as the initial
    CLI screen, then crashed.  Perhaps I didn't copy all of the necessary
    files.  At any rate it appears that the boot code gets put into
    RAD: automatically.
    
2095.4GuruCIMAMT::CROMACKTue Jan 10 1989 13:025
Did you get a CLI window or the workbench screen?
I got the workbench screen and then a guru.

				Dean Cromack    

2095.5VD0: survives where RAD: dies AITG::WISNERPaul WisnerFri Jan 13 1989 17:2819
I had a different problem using RAD:

I am developing a video game on a single-floppy 2.5meg A1000.  In the past, I
set up my environment by copying everything to VD0: (compiler, include files, 
lib, c: directory, and my source files).  In df0: I keep a bootable floppy
that mounts vd0: then does "EXECUTE VD0:s/startup-sequence".  I have kept this
setup running for weeks and have never had VD0: become corrupted.  My video
game has caused some harse system crashes, especially doing BitBlt's using 
bad destination bitmap plane pointers, or buggy clipping routines.  Incredibly
VD0: never failed.  

When I got 1.3, I setup my system using RAD:.  RAD: seemed like a dream come
true...  very quick reboots, which are important to me because I have to reboot
ALOT.  And EMACS 1.3 under NEWCON: s lightning fast.  Then I rebooted (after
DeluxePaint's file-requester caused a GURU) and RAD: was gone.......

    ....and that was enough to put me back on VD0:.