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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

1846.0. "Dragons Lair and Walker Demos" by WINERY::COLLUM () Wed Nov 02 1988 22:56

    I have copies of the Dragons Lair Demo (1 entire disk) and the Walker
    demo (2 disks).  I can't tell if the Dragons Lair is public domain. 
    I got it from my local computer store and they said they had no
    problem distributing it. If anyone knows any different, let me know.
    Both demos require a lot of memory (more than 1 meg i I recall.)
    When I get them uploaded (over the next few days) i'll also post
    the prerequisites.
    
    				Jim
     
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1846.1more and more megsLEMAN::BLANCPhil Lausanne-CH C/S 3-NOV-1988 08:41Thu Nov 03 1988 02:474
    hhhmmmmmm....sounds good......
    My idea to buy my B2000 with 3 Meg wasn't so bad......8-]
    
    Phil
1846.2Spread demo = sell software, n'est pas?DNEAST::COMBAR_CURTCurtis T. Combar - Augusta QISThu Nov 03 1988 10:264
    C'mon, WARP 'em up!  Don't be shy.  The company wouldn't have made demo
    disks if they didn't want them to be seen, now would they?  Am I missing
    some crucial piece of data here or what?  It would be like making
    people pay for TV advertisements if they weren't freely distributible. :-)
1846.3What is the Walker Demo?CSC32::J_PARSONSLike Lesser Birds on the 4 Winds...Thu Nov 03 1988 10:452
    
    I have the Dragon's Lair demo also and will try to upload it tonight.
1846.4WINERY::COLLUMThu Nov 03 1988 11:203
    Walker demo is an animation of the Empire Strikes Back walker,
    patroling the desk in front of an Amiga. I'll start uploading that
    one tonight.
1846.5CSC32::J_PARSONSLike Lesser Birds on the 4 Winds...Fri Nov 04 1988 07:317
    I have uploaded the Dragon's Lair demo. Find it at
    
    	csc32::disk1:[j_parsons.amiga]dragon.wrp
    
    Because the file is so large I can only leave it up for a week or
    so. The demo will run on a 1 meg Amiga but needs 1.5 meg to have
    sound and graphics.
1846.6Huh?WJG::GUINEAUFri Nov 04 1988 07:504

>    so. The demo will run on a 1 meg Amiga but needs 1.5 meg to have
>    sound and graphics.
1846.7CSC32::J_PARSONSLike Lesser Birds on the 4 Winds...Fri Nov 04 1988 08:122
    Simple, if you have 1 meg all you get is the graphics, no sound.
    Sorry if I wasn't clear at first.
1846.8ELWOOD::PETERSFri Nov 04 1988 10:458
    
    	A copy of the Dragon's Lair demo is now on
    
    		TAPE::user1:[amiga.arc]
    
    
   	Steve Peters
    
1846.9Walker demoWINERY::COLLUMFri Nov 04 1988 11:3736
    The walker demo can be found on
    
    		WINERY::USER3$:[COLLUM.AMIGA.WALKER]
    
    There are two disks worth of data here. I used TRACKER to  break
    them down, and then arc'ed the resulting file for compression.
    
    The arc files are:
    
    	WANIM0A.ARC	-	contains the file wanim0.0-39
    	WANIM0B.ARC	-	contains the file wanim0.40-79
    	WANIM1A.ARC	-	contains the file wanim1.0-39
    	WANIM1B.ARC	-	contains the file wanim1.40-79
    
    To restore these:
    
    	o	download the arc files
    	o	de'arc the files (if you've got the memory, de arc them
    		on a ram disk!) you may have to play games with multiple
    		disks.
    	o	the resulting files are in the form <volume name>.<tracks>
    	o	the format for restoring a disk with TRACKER is:
    		  TRACKER WRITE <starting track> <ending track> <filename>
                 If you don't have TRACKER.ARC, there is a note somewhere
    		 posting the location.
    
    This demo requires more than 512K. I think it requires 1.5M. I'll
    re-run it tonight to see if it has a memory requirement anywhere
    that can be seen.
    
    These files are on the West coast (Santa Clara, California). If
    there is someone on the East coast who would like to archive them
    for general accessing, feel free.
    
    				Jim
    
1846.10WALKER0A.ARC is badLOWLIF::DAVISThat&#039;s not a BUG, it&#039;s a FEATURE!Sun Nov 06 1988 11:065
Bad news!  The WALKER0A.ARC says that it is truncated.  I successfully got
the second disk TRACKERED, but can't get the first one to work because of
this.  Thanks a lot for the upload, but...Help!

...richard
1846.11I'll try againWINERY::COLLUMSun Nov 06 1988 14:2510
    Anyone else with this problem? I managed to cvtarc the wanim0a.arc
    file and then use the vms version of arc to decompress it.  I had
    no problems. I'll start another upload sometime this evening, unless
    someone reports that they've been able to download it (you said
    WALKER0A.ARC, i assume you mean WANIM0A.ARC)  
    
    I'll let  you know when its there.
    
    				Jim
    
1846.12CSC32::J_PARSONSLike Lesser Birds on the 4 Winds...Sun Nov 06 1988 16:372
    I was able to dl all parts of the demo and unarc them and tracker
    them. No problem here.
1846.13naw, it can't be ...LEDS::ACCIARDIDukakis should pluck his eyebrowsSun Nov 06 1988 20:0913
    
    I copied the entire demo disk from my dealer over the weekend. 
    I still can't believe this is for real.  I suspect the real game
    will involve a minute or more of disk gronking and then maybe thirty
    seconds or so of animation.
    
    I hope I'm wrong.  If ReadySoft has figured out a radical new
    compression/animation technique, they could turn the animation market
    on it's ear.  But this demo is simply too good to be for real.
    
    Ed.
    
    
1846.14Time for sneakernet?LDP::MCCARTHYSizzling the PitsSun Nov 06 1988 20:4211
        Is  it possible to download the Dragon's Lair Demo if you don't
        have over 1 meg? I got about 3/4 of it  across  before  running
        out of memory.  I copied what I had to disk, and got a bit more
        across before running out of space on the disk. When warping, I
        get to track 75 and then end on a CRC error.

        I copied the file and downloaded it with zmodem.  Does one need
        to CVTARC it?

        Help?
        Mike
1846.15CSC32::J_PARSONSLike Lesser Birds on the 4 Winds...Sun Nov 06 1988 20:576
    re .14
    
    I don't know whether there would be a way to dl it or not without
    1 meg, but I'm 99.9% sure it won't run on a machine without at least
    1 meg. It's really not happy unless it has 1.5 meg (no sound on
    a 1 meg machine).
1846.16LDP::MCCARTHYSizzling the PitsSun Nov 06 1988 21:005
        I have  1 meg in my 2000.  It seemed strange that a warped disk
        should take up more than 880K.  I thought  WARP  performed some
        compression.

        Mike
1846.17CSC32::J_PARSONSLike Lesser Birds on the 4 Winds...Mon Nov 07 1988 07:442
    I thought it a bit odd as well, but I did the warp twice just to
    make sure and it was almost 900K both times. 
1846.18LEMAN::BLANCPhil Lausanne-CH C/S 7-NOV-1988 16:57Mon Nov 07 1988 11:005
    re: .8
    Can you reset the protection on TAPE::....etc for this dragon.wrp
    file ??  File protection violation
    Thanx
    Phil
1846.19ELWOOD::PETERSMon Nov 07 1988 14:084
    re .18
    
    	All fixed.. Steve
    
1846.20I need trackerHARDLY::ELLISMMon Nov 07 1988 18:555
    I give up, can someone please tell me where I can get Tracker on
    the ENET. I'm desperate!!!!
    
    Martin
    
1846.21I think I found it in the tape libraryCAM::ARENDTDDT - The first and still the bestTue Nov 08 1988 08:5314
    I did a search of the tape library useing the command
    
    > dir tape::user1:[amiga...]track*.arc
    
    I found the file trackd.arc which I beleive is the tracker demo.
    Don't forget to shorten file names when searching the tape directories
    because some of the stuff we use (ie kermit,xmodem) seems to not
    like long file names.  I will download this tonight and let you
    know if it is the utility we are looking for.
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    Harry
    
1846.22ELWOOD::PETERSTue Nov 08 1988 09:239
    
    
    re .21
    
    	The file TAPE::USER1:[amiga.ff05]trackd.arc is NOT tracker.
    If anyone has tracker on the net I will move it to TAPE.
    
    
    	Steve Peters
1846.23It's on WJG::WJG::GUINEAUTue Nov 08 1988 10:165

TRACKER.ARC is on WJG::AMIGA:

John
1846.24WANIM on less than 2Mb ?HARDLY::ELLISMSat Nov 12 1988 09:594
    is it possible to get the WANIM demo working on anything less than
    a 2mb system? If so - how?
    
    Martin
1846.25Yes, you can run WALKER DEMO on 1MB , but ..CESARE::ZABOTMarco Zabot-Adv.Tech.mgr-Turin ACTSun Nov 13 1988 16:189
    Yes. If you have "The Director" you can run a piece at a time of
    the  Demo instead of linking them all together.
    If noone has it on that side of the pond, let me know and I'll
    do it for you.
    
    The Demo is composed of 6 ANIM ( imlogo0-1, walk0-3). Run them using
    a the PLAYANIM script that is in the directory LIBRARY of the Director.
    If you need more info, let me know.
    m.
1846.26With full sound EUCLID::OWENIn a Locst wind coms a RATTLE AND HUMMon Nov 14 1988 09:485
    Saw them both this weekend......
    
    INCREDIBLE!!!
    
    Steve O
1846.27Mini-WALKER DEMOCESARE::ZABOTMarco Zabot-Adv.Tech.mgr-Turin ACTMon Nov 14 1988 17:4645
Gentlemen,
	here is a sample of how to see a piece of WALKER DEMO
	on a mini-AMIGA.

	Follow this procedure.
	Load the last part of this message into your Amiga RAM.
	Call this file FOO.UU ( use your preferred tool to download)

	>cd ram:
	>uudecode foo.uu
	>list 
		foo.uu   	....
		1m-1.film	....
	>wanim0:projector 1m-1.film

		follow the inbstruction of Amiga DOS 
		( mount wanim1)....

	This implies that you have already the demo disks.
	It is a short example of WALKER DEMO. 
	Director is a neat piece of software ( but for rel 2.0
	we want more ....< place you request here>...)
	Enjoy it.
	marco

PS. For those who don't have UUDECODE you can find 1m-1.film
	on cesare::eng_area:[zabot.amiga] for a few days.

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1846.28GUCCI::HERBALWed Nov 30 1988 18:405
    What hardware and software do I need to make something like the
    walker demo?
    
                        Matt
    
1846.29still can't run short demoFSCORE::KAYEBe seeing youWed Dec 21 1988 09:058
    re .27
    
    I tried this and got the startup copyright stuff and then it quits
    with 'out of memory'. I have 1MB, does it require more than this
    to run a short version?
    
     mark