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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

1823.0. "Hard Disk Info Needed" by CSC32::J_PARSONS (Like Lesser Birds on the 4 Winds...) Thu Oct 27 1988 08:20

    Has anyone had experience with the Seagate ST296N 80 meg SCSI drive?
    I'm interested in this drive, but only if it's half height. I'd
    like to find out whether it's half or full height if anyone has
    ever actually seen one or otherwise had experience with it.
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1823.1Expect a 10 second delay from powerupTLE::RMEYERSRandy MeyersThu Oct 27 1988 15:5923
Re: .0

Not directly speaking to the question, but Commodore has announced that
you can not boot from a Seagate SCSI drive using their 2090A controller.
A future revision of the boot code ROMs on the controller will fix that
problem, but Commodore hasn't announced when controllers with the
new ROMs will ship, or if upgraded ROMs will be offered for free or
inexpensively to owners of the current 2090A.

SCSI disk are intelligent devices with the actual disk controller on
the disk and the on-disk controller capable of handing a fairly complex
communications protocol.   Seagate evidently does not ROM the SCSI code
for their drives.  Instead, the drive starts up an reads the SCSI
controller code from special tracks on the disk into on disk RAM.

The problem is the Seagate disks must boot themselves (5 to 15 seconds)
before they can boot the Amiga.

If ten years ago people told me that in the future that disk drives
and printers would be intelligent devices that had be to booted before
you could use them, I'd laughed.

Ha, Ha.
1823.2WJG::GUINEAUFri Oct 28 1988 09:2110
Seagate is not the only one. DEC RZ22 and RZ23 drives do the same thing.
Both are from Conner Peripherals, 50Mb and 100Mb respectivly, both 3.5" SCSI.

They have some commands in ROM also. This way they can respond almost
immediatly on the bus (INQUIRY, TEST UNIT READY, START/STOP UNIT..). However
the drive is not "ready" until spun up and it's RAM code loaded.


John
1823.3DEC RD33ALAZIF::WHERRYCelebrate Gotham's TricentennialWed Feb 08 1989 15:599
    
    Does anybody have any info on the DEC RD33?  Like platters, heads,
    cylinders, tracks, etc...  All the info one would need to format
    and use one on an amiga.
    
    thanks.
    
    brad
    
1823.4Dead DuckWJG::GUINEAUWed Feb 08 1989 18:0410
The DEC RD33 no longer exists. The project was canceled.

Anyway it has 7 heads, 1170 cylinders. It's ST506 so the number
of sectors depends on the controller you use. (Try 16-18).

It's 25ms ave access, 5ms track to track.


John