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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

1806.0. "Battle Chess" by WJG::GUINEAU (Somewhere else in time) Mon Oct 24 1988 08:12

I took my roomate to the Software Shop on saturday. He bought an A500!

I promised myself I would not buy *anything*. Well, he found this game called
"BattleChess" by Interplay.

This is a real chess game with both 2D and 3D boards. You can play over modem
with another player. You can even type and send one line messages back and forth
over modem.

The 3D board is absolutely fantastic! The pieces are not the standard "carved
statue models". They are real live players! You select a piece to move (actually
the square it's standing on), then select the square you want to move it to.
Valid moves highlight the square. Get this, the piece then walks to it's new
place! I mean a knight, for example, walks as you hear armor clinking and his
metal shoes pounding the board! Just like in that Star Wars scene in the weird 
bar!!! The graphics are superbly detailed.

If that wasn't enough, when you attact an opponents piece, the two actually
battle it out in a clashing of swords, magic and pure brute strength! What
a RIOT!  


We connected our A500's through a serial cable and played "over modem". This
game is such a funny thing, we spent 2 hours letting eachother attack
pieces just to watch them battle!

Don't be fooled, Amy plays a mean game of chess. BattleChess has 10 levels.
You can save games in progress, ask it to suggest a move. You can set up
a board anyway you like and play from there (good for getting battles going!).


Only one thing I don't like. The players are RED or BLUE. RED is at the "bottom"
of the screen, BLUE at the top - REGARDLESS of which side you play! In other
words, if you play blue, you play from the other side of the board (your pieces
facing you)  :-( This can be rather tricky) I haven't read the manual so
there may be a way around this. I can't believe such a simple thing as switching
color sides didn't get put in!


All in all, this game is a MUST for even novice chess players. It cost me $35
at The Software Shop.


John
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1806.1Watch out for the Castles...TEACH::ARTThink the UNTHINKABLEMon Oct 24 1988 13:0926
	Another vote for Battle Chess.  I picked it up this weekend
	at a local software store (along with WB 1.3).  What a great
	toy !  I spent most of Sunay morning just letting it play by
	itself so I could watch the pieces beat on each other.  Adds
	a whole new dimension to the game.

	It comes with a PROGRAM (not a command proc) that will install
	Battle Chess on a hard disk, but it will only put it in the
	root directory of DH0 -- nowhere else.  I installed it there
	and then moved it by hand to another partition, however, and
	nothing bad happened.  (They have to use a special program to
	move the files off the floppy because they're storing all the
	graphics in a non-DOS/non-file format on the floppy; the program
	converts it into standard file format on the hard disk. INFO's
	done on the floppy show that it is apparently empty, even tho
	there's about 800k of graphics out there...)

	Battle Chess IS copy-protected; there are a bunch of chess
	games listed in the back of the user's manual, and when the
	program is first fired up, it asks you to enter a specific
	move from a specic game -- a variation on the "look up a
	word in the manual" trick.  Could be worse.

	On a scale of 1 to 10, this probably about a 9.

	-Art
1806.2Changing the rules?LEDS::BUSCHDave Busch at NKS1-2Mon Oct 24 1988 13:229
<   If that wasn't enough, when you attact an opponents piece, the two actually
<   battle it out in a clashing of swords, magic and pure brute strength! What
<   a RIOT!  

Question is, when they battle it out, who wins? I would hope it's allways the 
attacker. ;^)

Dave

1806.3WJG::GUINEAUSomewhere else in timeMon Oct 24 1988 16:5210
Move mine to another partition also - no ill effects. I didn't notice
the different file format...

> Question is, when they battle it out, who wins? I would hope it's allways the 
> attacker. ;^)

Funny, that was my first question! It's the attacker, although the opponent
puts up a an honerable battle...

1806.4BAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonMon Oct 24 1988 17:339
    re: .3
    
    so close... why couldn't they add a joystick option to let you fight
    the battle?  Sort of like a 3D Archon.  Hmmm.... This just has the
    traditional chess characters, right?  No banshees, earth elementals,
    etc.  I wonder if Electronic Arts would be interested in updating
    Archon....
    
    -dave
1806.5WJG::GUINEAUSomewhere else in timeTue Oct 25 1988 08:007
The queen does turn into some kind of winged creature upon her
demise, and some can use magic...

Joystick would be NEAT!

John
1806.6Tell me more.DNEAST::SEELEY_BOBTue Oct 25 1988 12:4312
    I spotted this one in the latest INFO and thought that this might be first
    Amiga program to purchase after 5 months or so of living off the
    public domain.  A couple of questions, although:
    
    Can the program be backed-up on a floppy(?)... or does the Amiga
    Backup command fail to copy the format... I realize that one level of copy 
    protection exists in the 'read line xxxx out of the manual and type 
    this in' scheme.  I would be kind of nice to be able to back it
    up.
     
    Also what is the minumum memory required (1 meg??)?
                                    
1806.7RxP <ouch!>TEACH::ARTThink the UNTHINKABLETue Oct 25 1988 14:5511
	You CAN do a DISKCOPY with no problems, because it's duplicates the
	the source track-by-track.  You CANNOT do a COPY DF0: TO DF1: ALL
	because the copy command is file-oriented.  I also suspect that the
	unpacked files will be too big to  put back onto a floppy ('cause of
	file-system overhead).  So, yeah, you can make backups of the disk.

	They claim on the package that 512k is enough to run the
	beast.

	-Art
1806.8WJG::GUINEAUOn Relativity and &quot;C&quot;Tue Oct 25 1988 16:426
Yup, they recommend using a backup and NOT the original.

512K works fine - if you unplug your second floppy.

John
1806.9Animation data in RAM: ?ROMULN::MYEEBoycott Styrofoam cups, save the ozone.Tue Oct 25 1988 17:3112
    
    I tried this at the Bit Bucket in Sudbury, MA a few days ago, and
    loved it !!  EXCEPT, I hate to wait for the program to load the
    animations.  Is there anyway to copy the animation data to RAM:??
    I heard that if you use the "install to harddisk" program, that
    the animation files are in DOS format.  Is there anyway to fool
    the system in to use RAM:/VD0:/RAD: as the location for the animation
    files??  I like the game but it just take too long to load the
    animation from floppy.
    
    _Mike
    
1806.10NxP...TEACH::ARTThink the UNTHINKABLEWed Oct 26 1988 09:0017
>    the animation files are in DOS format.  Is there anyway to fool
>    the system in to use RAM:/VD0:/RAD: as the location for the animation
>    files??  I like the game but it just take too long to load the
>    animation from floppy.
    

	Sure, just copy BattleChess and ChessStuff (sp?) from the
	hard disk to a RAM directory; when you start the game from
	WorkBench, it assumes that the dir where BattleChess lives
	is also the one where ChessStuff (the animation data) lives.

	It may also be possible to set up a 'logical' pointing
	BattleChess: to RAM:, and only move the graphics file, but
	I haven't tried it.

	-Art
1806.11What if I don't have a Hard disk?7765::MYEEBoycott Styrofoam cups, save the ozone.Wed Oct 26 1988 14:038
    
    RE: .10
    
    	Yes, but I don't have a hard disk (DH0).  Where do I go from
    here??  I have an Amiga 500 - 1 meg / 2 floppies.
    
    _mike
    
1806.12shot in the dark.NOBHIL::BODINE_CHWed Oct 26 1988 16:558
    You might try assigning DH0: to RAM: and then running your hard
    disk install program.
    
    Disclaimer:                                         
    	This is just a guess.
    	I don't have this game, I haven't even seen it. 
                             
    Chris
1806.13Whats the big deal???GUCCI::HERBALSun Dec 04 1988 13:124
    What makes this game so fun if the attacker always win?
    
                                   Matt
    
1806.14Need HelpDNEAST::PARENT_TODDThu Jan 19 1989 21:366
    I have an Amiga 1200 bd modem.  I can't seem to get the program
    to dial my modem.  I've tried typing the ATDT command several different
    ways but nothing happens.  Is there a trick to it???
    
    -Todd