Conference hydra::amiga_v1

    Please do!
    
    brad

    I'm brave also.  Please post it's location.  I read about this one
    a few weeks ago and I was hoping that someone would be nice enough to
    present it to all of the graphics junkies that are looking for another
    'fix' in this notesfile :-)
    
                            Please Do.
    

    Oh Yeah,
    	I saw this at a recent user group meeting. I was really impressed.
    The sound includes a digitized voice and ball clicking/pocket clunking.
    It's definitely worth the D/L time.
    
    Thanx
    -bw
    

I know this subject is somewhat off limits for me but.... just in case you're
interested I've just completed a new "micro" ray tracer with better image
quality than DBW_Render and if I'm able to implement a new algorithm I found,
it could run up to 100 times faster.

Now don't start drooling.....
dave

    re: .0	Yes please download, (I can download at 9600 baud so....)
    
    re: .-1	wouaaaaa...100 times faster.....and better quality for
    		the images........That will be fun...
    
    
    Phil
    

    
    Here's a request to anyone who may be working on math-intensive
    software... :^)
    
    Please try to implement the new math library that will automatically
    call the math chip if present.  So far, under 1.3, I've only found
    a few programs that use the AmigaDOS double-precision math library.
    Sculpt-3D apparently does all of it's math internally.  Bummer.
    
    By the way, looks like I won't be able to upload this stuff until
    Friday 6/24 or later.  I tried last night, but there was a monsoon
    going on that affected my phone lines.
    
    Ed.

    I have GhostPool on Amy here at work.  I'll upload it today.
    Check in WINNER""::Disk$User_1:[Bernard.Amiga]
    
    I'll upload GhostPool.doc first and then make an archive with all
    the associated files (GhostPool.arc).
    
    If anyone is in the area, stop by and I'll make you a disk...
    
    John
    

    Woops....  Make that area  [JBERNARD.AMIGA]
    sorry...
    
    john
    
    

re: .7,.8

	When will the .ARC be there?  It's not now.

Mark

    Ghostpool, at least the major piece has been uploaded.  That sucker
    is LOONG.  I'll upload the sound and movie files Wednesday.  I've
    been out of the office.
    
    You must have Movie 1.2 or higher.  I have uploaded Movie 1.3.
    
    If you have done anything�strange to your environment with Morerows,
    or whatever, you may get "can not open window".  The animation is
    not brain dead. You'll have to use a clean copy of Workbench.  This
    lead me down the path for a few minutes.
    
    The files are unarced in my account since I didn't have the time
    to re-arc them.
    
    If anyone wants a disk with ghostpool, raisin (California Raisin
    Animation), Movie 1.3, etc on it,  due to the download time, send
    me mail on WINNER::JBERNARD, and I'll send you out a copy.  Just
    send me a blank disk when you receive it.
    
    John
    
    

Re: .0

    > However, there are digitized sounds, too, so you really need a 1
    > meg Amiga to play it.

    Does this mean it won't run at all on a 512K machine, or just no sound?

    Pete

RE: .-1   

	Interceptor requires at least 512 K bytes.  On 512K byte machines, it 
is recommended that the external drive be disconnected for improved sound.

	It is recommended that you have 1 megabyte of memory to maximize
sound capabilities, as well as to view the demonstration flight in full.

	I noticed that only about 25% of the demo flight ran when I first
booted my disk after seeing the full demo at the store.  I don't know exactly 
what sounds we're missing, but the basic engine roar seemed the same as
with more memory.  (I didn't have the drive disconnected).

	I then added the addmem command to the Interceptor startup-sequence
to configure my spirit 1.5 meg internal Ram and can now run the full demo
    and hear all the sounds. 

	Gary	

RE: -1	oops!

	Sorry, I thought I was reading an Interceptor note.  Can my reply
be deleted or moved to the Interceptor note ?  

RE: -2

	I have 2 meg, so I can't answer your question about 512K, but I
downloaded GhostPool last night. Thanks John, great animation.  I can hardly
wait for John to upload the sound files.  

	Gary

    Sound files are now uploaded for Ghostpool.  I also uploaded another
    animation called "Raisin" along with Movie 1.3.  
    
    There is also am IFF picture file "Samples.pic" that I uploaded
    that shows a few new fonts I got from a PD disk.
    
    Sorry for the delay, but it's been crazy around here the last few
    days (weeks...months...).
    
    John
    

From GHOSTPOOL.DOC:

    > Note that there is also a non-interlaced version of GhostPool available,
    > which will run in a 512K Amiga.

    >                       Dr. Gandalf, AKA Eric J Fleischer, MD


    Anybody out there have this one for us little guys?

    Pete

    	Re. .15
    
        > Note that there is also a non-interlaced version of GhostPool available,
    > which will run in a 512K Amiga.

>    >                       Dr. Gandalf, AKA Eric J Fleischer, MD


 >   Anybody out there have this one for us little guys?

 >   Pete

  	Yea, somebody has it ???
    
    Miguel A.

    I uploaded ghostpool and tried it.  I don't think it is very good
    at all.  I was very unimpressed.  It seems like a huge (enormous)
    waste of time to raytrace all of those frames, when a few icons
    could have been manipulated from BASIC to produce a "movie" of the
    same quality.
    
    I am not a fan of BASIC, and don't even remember how to program
    in it, but I'm sure I could implement a ghostpool like animation
    in less then the time it would take to ray trace one or two frames.
    
    	--Mike
    
    PS: I woke up on the wrong side of the bed this week.

I have to agree with you, Mike. Niether me nor my roomate were impressed at
all..

John

    Raisin is just "cute", absolutely will not blow your socks off though.
    
    I have a couple of other animations I'll upload to my area when
    I get a chance.
    
    One is of the Boing ball crashing through two walls...
    
    The other you'll have to see to believe...
    
    More in a bit....  got to go...
    
    John
    

    Actually, it speaks rather highly of the Amiga that we have become
    so jaded that animations that a few years ago would have been
    considered science fiction now rate a "ho hum" response.

    len.
                                                                
    

re:	.4

Well... I told you not to drool. Sure enough, the new algorithm is "100 times
faster than a standard ray-tracer"... unfortunatly their definition of a
"standard ray-tracer" is a ray-tracer without any extents. All my ray-tracers
have oct-tree extents and guess what? They're already 130 times faster than
a "standard ray-tracer"!!!

Oh well.. back to the drawing board. (Don't worry... I'm not giving up yet!)

dave

    re: .21--What are "extents"?
        John Sauter

    "Extents" are bounding volumes defined around an object by the software
    to allow a quick check for determining whether or not a given light ray
    might have hit it.  One of the attributes of extents are how tightly they
    cover the original object which determines how many times the bounding
    volume check says "yes, go do the expensive intersection check", but
    then the expensive check ends up saying there was no hit after all.

    -jim

Since this seemed like a likely place to post this...

I have uploaded the following files to WINNER""::DISK$USER_1:[JBERNARD.AMIGA].


DISPLAY.ARC     Display is a replacement for ShowAnim and will play animations
DISPLAY.DOC     in HASH and ANIM formats.  It supports the -C and -L  modes of
                anim files.  In addition, the user may change the playback
                speed, freeze frame, and single step through the animation
                as it is playing.  I have had very good luck with this utility
                showing animations I could not play previously without 
                rebooting with a "normal" workbench.
                Display will not show "movie" format animations, so
                it looks like the animation players you need in your
                toolbox are Movie and Display...
    
                    Display will also show IFF picture files.
                I extracted the .doc file for further info....
                

Berserk.arc     This animation is an update to Leo's original, using a couple
                new utilities on the market.  I downloaded this last night
                from PLINK.
                
CUDA.arc        This is an animation of a shipwreck with barracuda swimming
                by.  Nicely done animation.
                
STCREW.arc      A nice picture of Capt. Picard and Yar, all done freehand.
                Downloaded from PLINK.
                
TUNAJune.txt    News and Rumors text file.


Select          A startup-sequence command utility.  This program allows you
                to Select a startup script from several possible choices.
                Usage:
                
                SELECT  NORMAL-BOOT  BACKUP-BOOT  VSCREEN-BOOT  [etc..] [etc..]
                
                You would put the above in startup-sequence and a requestor
                would appear asking you to click on one of the included scripts.
                This would be handy if you had several environments that you
                normally used.
                

Enjoy,

John
    

    While we're on the subject of animations, does anyone have a copy
    of "BoingThrows" squirreled away somewhere on the net.  If you haven't
    seen it, its a guy (robot?) shooting baskets.  Nice.
    It's supposed to be on one of the Fish disks, but I can't locate
    it on the net where the other Fish disks are.