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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

1123.0. "Integrated packages" by LILAC::MKPROJ (REAGAN::ZORE) Mon Feb 01 1988 15:18

    I looked thru this conference for a note which talked about integrated
    packages in general for the Amiga but I didn't find any topics on
    this subject.  So....
    
    
    Can anyone tell me if there are any integrated packages which run
    on the Amiga?  By integrated packages I'm referring to those
    jack-of-all-trades packages which can do word processing, data base,
    spreadsheets, etc. etc under one name.  An example for the IBM PC
    would be Enable or Symphony.  
    
    How do the different packages compare?  What are the relative strengths
    and weaknesses of each?  Which one is the best all around package? 
                                
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Rich
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1123.1Every which way but looseCSSE::WARDMon Feb 01 1988 16:1625
    This is not an answer - but a collection of observations.
    
    1.  The Flipside (sideways printing) package also sells a spreadsheet
        and database package.  [No recommendations]
    
    2.  A few months back AmigaWorld had business package reviews. 
        There is also a professional business presentation package whose
        name escapes me but leverages off a popular spreadsheet.
    
    3.  Clipboard or pipelining (future V1.3 rumor) may eliminate
        integration outright.  DOS-2-DOS now supports atari formats
        and IFF interchange utilities may eliminate sharing problems.
    
    4.  Earlier in the notesfile, some come-ons off bundled software
        might move off this issue.
    
    5.  Support of import of Postscript and Editor file (Wordperfect)
        might de-fuse the issue.
    
    6.  The bridgecard certainly opens transparent sharing possibilities.
    
    7.  Integrated systems are temporary answers to multi-tasking OS.
    
    8.  The bottom-line,  what solution are in the market for?
    
1123.2The WORKS! worksSANCHO::ARBUCKLEWIZARDMon Feb 01 1988 17:0113
    
    	I am using a *basic* set of softwares which cover my needs for
    wordprocessing, database manipulation and spreadsheet work.  They
    are approximately equal to the Rainbow software I had before I went
    to the AMIGA.  The package is called the WORKS! and the wordprocessing
    program is about equal to Select.  The spreadsheet program is almost
    equal to Multiplan (in some ways it is better, ie. macro capability)
    and the database manipulation program is about 80% of DbaseIII.  
    However, they are sold together for about $100.  Individual prices
    run about $200.
    
    	I have found them usefull as a start, but am waiting for a more
    complete, comprehensive package.
1123.3HYSTER::DEARBORNTrouvez MieuxTue Feb 02 1988 11:4123
    The works is a special offer including Analyze!, Scribble! and whatever
    Brown/Waugh calls their database package.
    
    Personally, I am very disappointed with Scribble!.  It uses it's
    own names for requesters, ie Archive instead of Save.  
    
    
    W H Y ???
    
    This is the type of stuff that makes me drool for a MAC.  I spent
    several hours with a new A500 user, trying to explain to him how
    to use his system.  He was very computer naive.  It's this type
    of developer arrogance (making up their own 'systems', rather than
    using what already exists) that really burns me up.  
    
    Word Perfect does the same thing...but I guess I can make an exception.
    It is based on the MS-DOS version, allowing users to migrate to
    the Amiga, without having to re-learn the software.
    
    Anyone else feel this way?
    
    Randy
    
1123.4LEDS::ACCIARDITue Feb 02 1988 13:4713
    There was a lot of discussion of this sort of thing on Plink.  The
    MAC toolbox includes built-in file requestors.  Unless you want
    to bypass the toolbox, you just call it from ROM.
    
    The Amiga designers left out a lot of user interface routines that
    Apple put in.  Of course, they did throw in a multitasking Exec
    which took up a bit of space.
    
    The solution is clearly to come up with a standard file requestor.
    PixMate has the best one I've ever seen, and I'd love to see it
    become a standard.