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| 983.1 | | ELWOOD::PETERS | | Thu Dec 17 1987 17:04 | 20 |
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For the first question. IFF is the standard file format for
AMIGAs. The IFF standard contains definitions for more than
graphics. The standard includes text, formatted text, sound,
music, and graphics. ILBM is the sub-section of the IFF standard
the describes Bit Map graphics.
Second, You have the right idea about how to create Juggler.
you make a number of frames using a Ray Tracing program ( sculpt-3d,
Silver, DW render, Render..ect. ). You then use a program that
packs the frames into a file ( there is a PD packer, Silver comes
with one, and Byte by Byte "Sculpt-3d" will have one soon ).
The file contains only the changes from one frame to the next.
Then play it. I have also heard that a standard for packed
files and players is comming soon.
Steve Peters
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| 983.2 | ANIM exists | TLE::RMEYERS | Randy Meyers | Fri Dec 18 1987 04:53 | 16 |
| Re: .1
> I have also heard that a standard for packed files and players is
> comming soon.
The August update to the IFF standard documented the ANIM IFF form, so
the standard is already done. The Kahnankas demo (the one with the
crystal balls banging into each other) uses the ANIM file format. One
clever thing about the ANIM file format is that the first frame of the
move is store as an ILBM image, so if you load a ANIM file into a paint
program, you will get the first frame of the movie.
One thing that has not been standardized is a file format for describing
object descriptions to be ray-traced. That is a harder problem, and I
don't expect a standard for that anytime soon. (Although, some ideas
are being kicked around for this.)
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| 983.3 | | LEDS::ACCIARDI | | Fri Dec 18 1987 08:21 | 17 |
| Syndedis (actually, John Foust) is shipping a conversion package
that can use Sculpt-3D object descriptions in VideoScape-3D and
vice versa. Future support will probably include conversions to
and from Silver, Forms in Flight, and whatever else comes along.
I think this standard will be a problem, since the various programs
use dramatically different methods of creating a model. Personally,
I hope Sculpt-3D wins, since it's editor is by far the easiest to
use.
It'd be nice if someone could do a converter for objects/movies
created with CAD-3D for the Atari. In some ways, CAD-3D is more
powerful than comparable programs for the Amiga, although it
was limited to the standard number of colors. I wonder if they've
got it running in 512 colors yet? Images created using the full
pallette could be very interesting.
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| 983.4 | is IFF standard available? | CIMNET::KYZIVAT | Paul Kyzivat | Fri Dec 18 1987 08:39 | 8 |
| Re: .2
> The August update to the IFF standard documented the ANIM IFF form, so
> the standard is already done.
Where can this standard be obtained? Is it in a form that can be uploaded?
Paul
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| 983.5 | Yes and no | RSTS32::HAYES | | Fri Dec 18 1987 11:20 | 45 |
| <<< Note 983.4 by CIMNET::KYZIVAT "Paul Kyzivat" >>>
-< is IFF standard available? >-
: Where can this standard be obtained? Is it in a form that can be uploaded?
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: Paul
I believe the info is copyrighted an cannot be uploaded, but you can
order the info from CBM. Listed below is an article from USENET:
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In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Bob Page) writes:
>Red rain is falling down ...
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>NOW where do we send our $20 for the IFF info?
It's business as usual, only the name has changed: Henceforth, all inquiries
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Lauren asks that you please have a little patience with her while she sorts
things out.
--
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| 983.6 | | ELWOOD::PETERS | | Fri Dec 18 1987 18:13 | 7 |
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The IFF spec is in the Fred Fish collection. I'll check which
is the latest and upload it.
Steve Peters
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| 983.7 | IFF is Public Domain | TLE::RMEYERS | Randy Meyers | Fri Dec 18 1987 18:19 | 5 |
| The IFF standard is public domain, as are the standard IFF reader routines
and examples on the disk. An alternate source of the IFF disk is Fred
Fish. I don't think he incorporated the latest version of the standard
into his collection, but he does have and earlier versions of the standard
available as disks 16 and 64.
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