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Conference hydra::amiga_v1

Title:AMIGA NOTES
Notice:Join us in the *NEW* conference - HYDRA::AMIGA_V2
Moderator:HYDRA::MOORE
Created:Sat Apr 26 1986
Last Modified:Wed Feb 05 1992
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5378
Total number of notes:38326

895.0. "Networking the Amiga" by OTOO01::GORMAN () Thu Nov 12 1987 11:44

    I am not very familiar with the Amiga 2000 but I have a customer
    who wishes to link 3 of them to a VAX for additional file storage
    and sharing.  Ideally, he would like to link them into a VMS Services
    for MS-DOS world or at least get DECnet-DOS running over an asynch.
    line using the A2088 card.
    
    Any thoughts on whether this will be successful?  Will Digitals
    DEPCA board work if plugged into one of the PC slots?  Just how
    modified is the BIOS?
    
    Any input will be appreciated.
    
    Karen
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895.1How about TCP/IP ?CELSST::FISHERJohn Fisher @NCO | DTN 367-4453Thu Nov 12 1987 13:4911
    Mixing work & fun again ??...
    
    I am not all that certain about the MS-DOS angle. It might work,
    but there are real chances that it would have problems...
    
    Another approach might be to use TCP/IP. I remember seeing a third
    party hardware/software package for the Amiga that supported a TCP/IP
    ethernet connection.
    
    Hope that helps.
    
895.2Multi-buses & DOS(es)CSSE::WARDThu Nov 12 1987 16:3913
    As to how modified is the BIOS part... See note 188
    
    MSDOS can be found in the emulator (Transformer - A1000), in the
    Sidecar as well as in a A2000 option.
    
    To further confuse choices, Pheonix BIOS has announced plans to
    support 80386 MSDOS applications under the 680x0 (Amiga&MAC).  The 
    original Amiga came with instructions on transfering files with
    a Sun Workstation.  [How does a Sun Workstation get connected to
                           a VAX?]
    
    Since AT cards are supported in the A2000 card cage, maybe off the
    shelf approaches will work.  Good luck! 
895.3Ameristar16BITS::KRUGERMon Nov 16 1987 12:358
    Ameristar makes several boards for native Amiga networking. They
    support NFS (Sun's network protocol) which definitely connects to
    VAXen.
    
    I don't know the number offhand, but they are based in long island
    (516).
    
    dov
895.4A VAX to backup up an Amiga cluster?MEIS::ZIMMERMANAngry goose! Angry, angry goose!Tue Nov 17 1987 11:4814
    I'd be interested in knowing what the customer was doing with the 
    Amigas.  My guess is that businesses that use Amigas do more 
    interesting things on average than companies that pick PC's, say.

    Last month's AmigaWorld featured Amigas in business.  One article
    described how three small businesses uses them: a kite manufacturer
    uses DeluxePaint to design kites and illustrate their catalog; a TV
    production facility uses a 1000 for animation; a consulting firm uses
    Amigas because they're cheaper than IBM's or Apples for color
    business graphics. 

    So what's your customer up to?

    - Cliff
895.5What is you customer up to?OTOO01::GORMANTue Nov 17 1987 16:186
    I can't tell you too much about what my customer plans to do because
    it's confidential.  Basically, he wants to create advertisements
    using very sophisticated graphics on the Amiga 2000.  These ads are 
    then sent to a Sony Frame Creation unit where output suitable for 
    broadcasting (tv) is created. He wants to use a VAX as a central
    storage medium.
895.6A point to considerHIT::WHERRYServant of CthulhuTue Nov 17 1987 19:2418
    	Just poking my nose in here to add something which may be important
    or unimportant.  I am NOT aware of any means of transferring files
    from the amiga filesystem into the MS-DOS filesystem of the
    bridge-board, would someone with a bridge-borad care to comment
    on this?  If this is true (and the BYTE preview mentioned that there
    was no file-transfer capability at the time of the preview), then
    you could only NET the amiga half rather than the PC part of an
    Amiga 2000.  Do you know if the customer will be running ULTRIX,
  Unix BSD (might as well run Ultrix), or VMS... I know that Ameristar
    also sells TCP/IP for thier amiga ethernet card.  I don't know whether
    that falls under being part of NFS etc.
    
    	I don't know whether this point had been considered so I thought
    I would mention it.  BTW, I am intentionally ignoring transfering
    files via NULL-MODEM cable from the amiga side to the PC side (assuming
    you put a serial card and set it for COMM2)...
    
    brad
895.7Comp_Sys_AmigaHIT::WHERRYServant of CthulhuTue Nov 17 1987 19:266
    	I seem to remember reading something in Comp_sys_amiga about
    networking, ameristar ethernet boards, NFS, TCP/IP, DECNET, etc.
    But since the notesfile got reset recently, I don't know if it is
    still around....
    
    brad
895.8Dos-to-DosLEDS::ACCIARDITue Nov 17 1987 20:363
    Dos-to-Dos from Central Point Software will read any IBM or Atari
    ST format 3 1/2" disk directly.  Would this suffice to move files
    from MS-Dos to AmigaDOS?
895.9TLE::RMEYERSRandy MeyersFri Nov 20 1987 15:4611
Re: .6

I've been told that the bridgeboard comes with lots of utilities
to move files between the two systems.  But, my memory could be
going...

Re: .*

A company called Tollysoft is porting DECnet to the Amiga.  They bought
porting rights to a Macintosh version of DECnet and are busy modifying it.
I don't know how far along they are.
895.10ethernet worksBAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonTue Dec 08 1987 18:2925
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Path: decwrl!sun!pitstop!sundc!seismo!uunet!ccicpg!harald
Subject: Bridgecard fun
Posted: 25 Nov 87 11:18:40 GMT
Organization: CCI CPD, Irvine CA
 
 
	Perhaps some news to Commodore for a change.
 
	I just tested the ACORN RISC development board with a 3Com Ethernet
board on the Bridgecard side of the A2000 bus. It works flawlessly. The
Bridgecard acts as an I/O controller for the Ethernet and screen/keyboard.
This a very nice arrangement. The ACORN screems, and barely bothers the
Amiga side at all. As I mentioned previously, I also have NFS on the Amiga
side of the Bridgecard. I had to rape an IBM pc to try this out, since we
are still waiting for more ACORN boards (like mine). When I do get my board,
I will have two Ethernet hoses going into the A2000. I shudder to think what
I could with this! This is getting strange. Now I know why this is called
Janus. Now if I could just adapt Matt's shell to talk amiga/unix to the IBM...
 
 
-- 
Work: Computer Consoles Inc. (CCI), Advanced Development Group (ADG)
      Irvine, CA (RISCy business! Home of the CCI POWER 6/32)
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895.11more Amiga DECnet infoBAGELS::BRANNONDave BrannonSun Dec 20 1987 22:3845
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Path: decwrl!decvax!ucbvax!husc6!cca!rtolly
Subject: Re: DECNET
Posted: 2 Nov 87 20:00:22 GMT
Organization: Computer Corp. of America, Cambridge, MA
 
In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>
>Hello, does anyone out there have any information on current (or RSN) products
>to connect the A2000 to DECNET?  I have heard that Ameristar had an Ethernet
>card for the A1000, but I haven't been able to find a valid phone number for
>them.
>
 
My wife's company is in the process of porting the Mac product TSSnet to
the Amiga.  This provides DECnet End-node support, along with virtual terminal,
VMS Mail, network file transfer and remote file access.  TSSnet on the Mac
is being marketed by Alisa Systems.  It has not yet been determined how
the Amiga product will be marketed - discussions are underway with
Thursby Software Systems, the developers of TSSnet.  Also not clear
is what the demand for an Amiga version will be - feel free to send
me email if you have opinions on this.  The Amiga version will have
asynch DDCMP support, and discussions have started with Ameristar
to get information to allow support for their Ethernet board.
 
Ameristar's phone number is (516) 698-0834 , by the way.
 
Bob Tolly  [email protected]


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Path: decwrl!labrea!rutgers!husc6!spdcc!m2c!ulowell!page
Subject: Re: DECNET
Posted: 2 Nov 87 20:26:17 GMT
Organization: University of Lowell, Computer Science Dept.
 
Ameristar doesn't sell Zorro I boards any more (don't know if they
ever did, actually), only Zorro II.
 
I know of a DECNET port to the Amiga, but it won't be RSN.  I think it
will use the Ameristar board but might use serial line DDCMP as well.
 
..Bob
-- 
Bob Page, U of Lowell CS Dept.   page@ulowell.{uucp,edu,csnet}