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| 871.1 |  | ELWOOD::PETERS |  | Tue Nov 03 1987 10:21 | 10 | 
|  |     
    
    	I have done some work in assembler on the AMIGA but I have always
    used a debugger ( MetaScope ). There is a debugger called Wack that
    comes with the AMIGA but I have never used it. I have been told
    it requires a terminal connected to the serial port.
    
    
    		Steve Peters
    
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| 871.2 | Wack it! | NAC::VISSER |  | Tue Nov 03 1987 10:41 | 15 | 
|  |     re.: -.1
    	Not so. Wack can run through a window or the serial port; in
    fact, there are two versions, ROM wack and (RAM) wack, the former
    of which is automatically invoked through the serial port upon Guru.
    The documentation for wack was on one of the developer's disks I
    received, and might be on the 1.2 upgrade, I'm not sure.  It is
    not freely distributable, as CBM warns, as it might eventually be
    part of the ToolKit product they have threatened to release.  It
    is a very good program from what I can tell (not being a S/W pro),
    as it allows tracing, breakpoints, symbols, in line
    assembly/disassembly, and many other features.  If there's any
    interest, I'll try to post a feature list.  I think there is a
    non-commercial developer arangemnet now from C-A for about $50.00
    through which you'd receive this and other useful programs.
    John
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| 871.3 |  | STAR::BANKS | In Search of Mediocrity | Tue Nov 03 1987 13:36 | 8 | 
|  |     When we first got our developer's package two years ago, I used
    Wack to debug my assembly code, and I found Wack to be about the
    best advertisement for Metascope that I could come by.  (Which is
    not to imply that Metascope is perfect, because it certainly isn't.)
    
    But, you can certainly do effective debugging with Wack.  Were I
    just starting over, though, I think I'd skip Wack and go straight
    to Metascope.
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| 871.4 | real inexpensive debugger | VIDEO::LEIBOW |  | Tue Nov 03 1987 17:20 | 11 | 
|  |     I have tried to stay away from assembly code on the amiga, but I
    am still interested in others endeavors.  I remember when the
    PD version of Missile Command came out...  Glen Meriman (SP?) the
    Author had a note in one of the menus of the game that said something
    about Missile being written in 100% assembly.  It also said that
    for 5 bucks or so, he would mail a disk with his sources, and a
    PD debugger that he wrote to help him develop the code.
    
    5 bucks sounds inexpensive to me :->
    
    
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| 871.5 | I need Wack ! | PUERTO::ALVAREZ | Miguel,from sunny Puerto Rico | Wed Nov 04 1987 08:10 | 20 | 
|  |     Re. 1,2,3
    
    	I couldn't find any mention of Wack on my Developer Update disks,
    nor on a list of documentation available from Commodore. Anyway
    thanks for the information.
    
    	I would be very interested in Wack features, better yet, why
    don't you upload it so I can try it myself ? :-). I'll check for
    prices on the Metacomco debugger and see if my wallet can handle
    it. :-(.
    
    Re.4 Mike,
    
    	I do have Missile Command, thanks for making me remember. I'll
    give it a try. 
    
    	On another note, I was reading the last Amazing Computing article
    on assembly programming and the example program has an INCLUDE of
    exec/funcdef.i, but I don't have this file in my INCLUDE's from
    the Developer's Update. Any ideas ??
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| 871.6 | don't upload wack! | NAC::VISSER |  | Wed Nov 04 1987 12:25 | 8 | 
|  |     re.: .5
    	Wack shouldn't be uploaded since it is not freely distributable,
    as I stated in my previous reply.  To do so violates the rights
    of C-A, and the terms of the agreement whereby it was obtained.
    If you are a developer and can't find it, call C-A.  I believe its
    on the 1.2 Gamma release ToolKit disk, I'll check tonight.  Anyone
    who's not a developer might just try calling C-A and explaining;
    they might accomadate you.
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